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(Oregon Live) Asinine It will only cost $85,000 to repair the parks used by Occupy Portland. That's some impressive job creation   (oregonlive.com) divider line 147
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2011-12-01 12:47:19 PM
Considering Portland's parks have been occupied by the homeless since I was a kid, I wouldn't think there would be much of a difference
 
2011-12-01 12:49:44 PM
So like roughly two hours worth of interest if we'd invested the money we used to bail out the banks?
 
2011-12-01 12:52:18 PM
Sounds like the estimate of "millions of dollars of damage" done to the WI state capitol by anti-Walker protesters.
 
2011-12-01 12:57:07 PM
$85,000? Now that's walkin' around money!!
 
2011-12-01 01:03:01 PM
Total cost to re-plant grass and re-paint curbs: $85,000.

Total cost of Wall Street bailout: $4,600,000,000,000.
 
2011-12-01 01:11:27 PM
$33,000 has been donated so far and tons of people have volunteered to do the actual work getting the park back to normal.

I'm not too worried about it. Many of these downtown parks host week long events that have lots of tents and bigger crowds on and off all year round. No one ever seems to get up in arms about what the Rose Festival, Brew Fest, or Cinco de Mayo does to the grass.
 
2011-12-01 01:25:38 PM
MaxxLarge: Total cost to re-plant grass and re-paint curbs: $85,000.

Total cost of Wall Street bailout: $4,600,000,000,000.


penthesilea: $33,000 has been donated so far and tons of people have volunteered to do the actual work getting the park back to normal.

But you don't understand. Those eeeeevil protesters are making people feel bad about their prosperity.
 
2011-12-01 01:34:28 PM
Is this the same company that guessed the cost to repair the Wisconsin capital after painters tape was used on it?
 
2011-12-01 01:43:22 PM
Just have the police sell an ounce of weed out of the evidence room... that'll cover it with plenty of money leftover.
 
2011-12-01 01:55:17 PM
I'll sweep the leaves for a mere $20,000!
 
2011-12-01 02:50:23 PM
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2011-12-01 03:56:31 PM
We the 99% thank you for racking up our tax costs so you can have your say and prove your point that we're all the 99%, portland protesters.

Can't wait to see what the bill is in Seattle, they already had to close the day care center, there's been 2 rape/assaults, and several other incidents. And the organizers are now fighting the college who wants them gone (after foolishly offering them campground space in the first place)
 
2011-12-01 04:13:23 PM
Generation_D: We the 99% thank you for racking up our tax costs so you can have your say and prove your point that we're all the 99%, portland protesters.

biatching about a tax to cover $85,000 in a city of over 2 million people? Are you a pussy?
 
2011-12-01 04:13:48 PM
The people that claim to mistrust the government will accept this figure without question.
 
2011-12-01 04:14:22 PM
The biggest cost is for the Lownsdale Square restroom, which needs removal or replacement of three toilets, one pedestal sink, plumbing, wall-mounted braces and floor attachments. The city estimates that will cost about $28,000.

wtf, 28 grand for 3 toilets a sink and some PEX piping? No wonder "conservatives" want local governments to be running things they will rob you blind faster than the feds...
 
2011-12-01 04:14:51 PM
unlikely: So like roughly two hours worth of interest if we'd invested the money we used to bail out the banks?

in the The US of A AND in Europe.
 
2011-12-01 04:15:19 PM
So does the cost include the police having to buy more weapons(pepper spray, tear gas, nightstick buffing)?

/Do your duty. Send a cop to prison for assaulting, torturing, and attempted murder of peaceful protesters.
 
2011-12-01 04:16:23 PM
put a bird on it
 
2011-12-01 04:17:14 PM
And people say they haven't accomplished anything.
 
2011-12-01 04:18:33 PM
penthesilea: Many of these downtown parks host week long events that have lots of tents and bigger crowds on and off all year round. No one ever seems to get up in arms about what the Rose Festival, Brew Fest, or Cinco de Mayo does to the grass.

First of all, those events are held at Waterfront Park, which are designed to accomodate festivals/events of thousands of people.

Second, the organizations that hold those festivals applied for permits, and were required by the permit that they pay for all damages incurred.

To make things even more hilarious, Occupy Portland raised a fund - on farking Paypal. Where did that money go? They're "unable to account" for it! (new window) Seriously, they lost $14k. These are the people villifying bankers - people who can't even get their own organization's finances in order.

/I am the 98%
/Occupiers are the other 1% that don't speak for me
 
2011-12-01 04:20:13 PM


OOOOOOO ... this should be fun. Lemme make the popcorn!!!
 
2011-12-01 04:20:27 PM
At first I was skeptical, but after seeing the slide show of the shocking devastation of the parks, I became outraged. It looked as if there were at least 2 different signs that were left in those parks.
 
2011-12-01 04:20:35 PM
MaxxLarge: Total cost to re-plant grass and re-paint curbs: $85,000.

Total cost of Wall Street bailout: $4,600,000,000,000.


You guys plan to spend that money on an awful lot of things.
 
2011-12-01 04:21:49 PM
so ready for this crap to be over with #tiredofhearingaboutit
 
2011-12-01 04:21:51 PM
Headso: wtf, 28 grand for 3 toilets a sink and some PEX piping? No wonder "conservatives" want local governments to be running things they will rob you blind faster than the feds...

You ever read those contracts?

They'll call out specific things that aren't made anymore that someone's brother-in-law bought a whole bunch of in the 80s.

"no, the toilets must be avocado. Painting them is not acceptable"
 
2011-12-01 04:22:26 PM
It costs $85,000 to rehab a park from the ravages of protesting autumn?
 
2011-12-01 04:22:37 PM
Counter_Intelligent: Generation_D: We the 99% thank you for racking up our tax costs so you can have your say and prove your point that we're all the 99%, portland protesters.

biatching about a tax to cover $85,000 in a city of over 2 million people? Are you a pussy?


2 million people? In the whole metro area, maybe, but not in Portland.
 
2011-12-01 04:22:46 PM
Another case of right-wing math. Just like the Protests earlier this year at Wisconsin's capital that were initially estimated to cost over $7 million ended up only really costing less then $300,000. Most of that would have been done with just regular clean up and maintenance
 
2011-12-01 04:22:55 PM
HotWingConspiracy: The people that claim to mistrust the government will accept this figure without question.

I hear the Wisconsin protests cost $7.5 million in property damage.
 
2011-12-01 04:23:09 PM
LineNoise: You guys plan to spend that money on an awful lot of things.

It's that kind of fractional spending that led to the wall street collapse!
 
2011-12-01 04:24:15 PM
fireclown: LineNoise: You guys plan to spend that money on an awful lot of things.

It's that kind of fractional spending that led to the wall street collapse!


Maybe we can securitize it!
 
2011-12-01 04:26:08 PM
That's almost exactly the same as one Javelin missile.
 
2011-12-01 04:26:21 PM
penthesilea: $33,000 has been donated so far and tons of people have volunteered to do the actual work getting the park back to normal.

I'm not too worried about it. Many of these downtown parks host week long events that have lots of tents and bigger crowds on and off all year round. No one ever seems to get up in arms about what the Rose Festival, Brew Fest, or Cinco de Mayo does to the grass.


This.

Also, I don't trust those figures anyway. How much of these supposed damages were regular wear and tear repairs the park was going to need anyway? I go by those parks every day and visited the Occupy camps several times through their encampment. No way the damage caused is really costing this much. The campers took pretty good care of that space as I saw. I think they are being blamed for damage done before any Occupation.
I have absolutely no trust left in our city's ability to give accurate financial information or handle money, so yeah.
 
2011-12-01 04:27:12 PM
It cost $1.5 TRILLION to bail out the banks in 2008.

$1,500,000,000,000 OR $85,000?

Now which one is more than the other?
 
2011-12-01 04:27:27 PM

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Generation_D: We the 99% thank you for racking up our tax costs so you can have your say and prove your point that we're all the 99%, portland protesters.

biatching about a tax to cover $85,000 in a city of over 2 million people? Are you a pussy?


I'll tell you what I'm not, and thats a partisan dickwad. Maybe if you're ever older you'll see what it looks like for a bunch of petulant kids to show up, stomp around, shake their tiny fists of rage, then expect others pay for the cleanup. $200 or $200 million. Doesn't really matter. Protesters have this funny idea most of town appreciated their noble sacrifices. And maybe I did, at first. But as the weeks wore on, its like unwanted house guests who never leave, then start issuing demands about what brand of snacks to buy.

And before you do the predictable name call accusations... grow up. Not everyone that wants wall street prosecuted thinks every stupid small town in america and canada needs its local self appointed self righteous d-bags Occupying. Go to new york if you want to protest. but stop clogging up my neighborhood with your mess. Isn't helping. Turns normal people against you. Us versus them-ism, as created by the protesters.
 
2011-12-01 04:27:51 PM
That's the most gorgeous park bathroom I have ever seen, even when its ruined. Nice tile-work.
 
2011-12-01 04:29:29 PM
Goimir: Headso: wtf, 28 grand for 3 toilets a sink and some PEX piping? No wonder "conservatives" want local governments to be running things they will rob you blind faster than the feds...

You ever read those contracts?

They'll call out specific things that aren't made anymore that someone's brother-in-law bought a whole bunch of in the 80s.

"no, the toilets must be avocado. Painting them is not acceptable"


Don't forget requiring union, civil servant employees to do all the work.
 
2011-12-01 04:29:53 PM
unlikely: So like roughly two hours worth of interest if we'd invested the money we used to bail out the banks?

Yeah it probably was about two minutes of interest on the profits we made on bailing out the banks.

That is what you meant right?

I mean, you do know that the US Government made about a ten percent return on the TARP money lent to the banks?
 
2011-12-01 04:30:14 PM
Pete_T_Mann: At first I was skeptical, but after seeing the slide show of the shocking devastation of the parks, I became outraged. It looked as if there were at least 2 different signs that were left in those parks.

You should have seen the park after the campers left - it looked like GWAR held a six-week mosh pit there. They hauled away multiple dump trucks of refuse. If the leaves weren't there,you'd see how all of the landscaping was reduced to mud.

kkinnison: Another case of right-wing math.

Except the damages were assessed by the city of Portland, which isn't exactly a right-wing entity.

The mayor was very accomodating to the OWS folks, who were given an inch and took a mile. They set up camp and welcomed every anarchist and street punk who walked in. One camper was caught throwing molotov cocktails. In the last week, there were half a dozen drug overdose.
 
2011-12-01 04:31:47 PM
You can blame the protesters all you want, but that bathroom doesn't look different than any other public bathroom I've ever seen.
 
2011-12-01 04:34:22 PM
LineNoise: Don't forget requiring union, civil servant employees to do all the work.

Not always. Usually they can get away with paying them the prevailing wage. But in any event, Joe's Contracting is going to charge $150/hr for each laborer, and bid it with 3 guys there working for 3 days, and then have one guy bang it out in a day.

/I feel dirty just thinking about how many of those contracts I dealt with
 
2011-12-01 04:34:53 PM
moops: .

Except the damages were assessed by the city of Portland, which isn't exactly a right-wing entity.

The mayor was very accomodating to the OWS folks, who were given an inch and took a mile. They set up camp and welcomed every anarchist and street punk who walked in. One camper was caught throwing molotov cocktails. In the last week, there were half a dozen drug overdose.


Well, if the municipal government of Portland hadn't given all that money to bail out the banks, the protesters wouldn't have had any reason to make a mess in the park.
 
2011-12-01 04:36:12 PM
Goodfella: It cost $1.5 TRILLION to bail out the banks in 2008.

$1,500,000,000,000 OR $85,000?

Now which one is more than the other?


What exactly is the point you are trying to make with that comparison? I'll wait here while you Google something.
 
2011-12-01 04:37:27 PM
I can't find one statute, code, law or an interpretation of the Constitution that states that camping is a form of protected speech.
 
2011-12-01 04:38:08 PM
FFS, enough of this shiat. Go back to work, you won't change a farking thing.
 
2011-12-01 04:38:46 PM
85 grand huh ?

Are they estimating that like they estimate the street value of confiscated drugs ?
 
2011-12-01 04:39:19 PM
it will cost them 16K to replace 9 benches because of the horrible damage done to them
media.oregonlive.com

i had to read the caption under it to figure out that the center arm rest was broken WTF 16K to replace 9 arm rests

the total cost of damages is about 5-10K and the city is going to do 75K of needed updates and blame it on the protest
 
2011-12-01 04:42:20 PM
wolfzr2: FFS, enough of this shiat. Go back to work, you won't change a farking thing.

Bwahahaha

Even Luntz doesn't believe that tired old line.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/republicans-being-taught-talk-occu p y-wall-street-133707949.html

clip - "I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message. "They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism."
 
2011-12-01 04:42:27 PM
moops: I can't find one statute, code, law or an interpretation of the Constitution that states that camping is a form of protected speech.

And I can't find one that says it isn't.
 
2011-12-01 04:43:33 PM
They have to replace the grass at Waterfront Park every year after the Rose Festival and the Bite of Oregon. I'm not exactly worried.
 
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