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(Spiegel) Sad It takes a German paper to state the obvious about the GOP presidential race   (spiegel.de) divider line 408
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2011-12-01 12:01:03 PM
Oh wirklich!?
 
2011-12-01 12:08:27 PM
You know who else stated the obvious about race?
 
2011-12-01 12:12:12 PM
Genuine Republicans should be asking themselves why the hell is Buddy Roemer is not in the debates. He's experienced, intelligent, and acceptable. Apparently, there's no room for that in this election cycle.
 
2011-12-01 12:13:04 PM
Horst: (Sinister) Okay, Mr. Burns, you win. But beware. We Germans aren't all smiles and sunshine.
Mr. Burns: (Sarcastic) Oooh, the Germans are mad at me. I'm so scared! Oooh, the Germans! (Hiding behind Smithers) Uh oh, the Germans are going to get me!
Horst: Stop it!
Man: Stop, sir.
Mr. Burns: Don't let the Germans come after me. Oh no, the Germans are coming after me.
Man: Please stop the "pretending you are scared" game, please.
Horst: Stop it! Stop it!
Mr. Burns: (Pause) No! They're so big and strong!
Man: Stop it.
Horst: Stop it, Mr. Burns.
Man: Please stop pretending you are scared of us, please, now.
Mr. Burns: Oh, protect me from the Germans! The Germans--
Horst: Burns, Stop it!

/No one who speaks German could possibly be an evil man.
 
2011-12-01 12:21:19 PM
"Good for ratings..."

That's pretty much the whole thing at this point. It is a freak show and as we've learned over the years, the "Reality Show" is anything but. And if you want real ratings on these things, you have to put on folks who are absolutely insane.

Essentially, the American public is getting trolled. Hard.

Tune in. Buy books. Get gear. Pump up websites. Keep the revenue flowing. The revenue. Must. Flow.
 
2011-12-01 12:22:47 PM
The author has no ground to stand on.

His country's government has yet to apologize for bombing Pearl Harbor.
 
2011-12-01 12:22:48 PM
unyon: Genuine Republicans should be asking themselves why the hell is Buddy Roemer is not in the debates. He's experienced, intelligent, and acceptable. Apparently, there's no room for that in this election cycle.

Especially since they hold Reagan up to be something of a saint. You'd think they'd see Roemer as some sort of second coming. The guy's a Reagan-lite Republican who isn't a gibbering moron.
 
2011-12-01 12:23:19 PM
hubiestubert: Reality Show

I dunno. If Mitt Romney got drunk, started dancing, and flashed the Iowa caucus his cooter, I might consider voting for him.
 
2011-12-01 12:35:30 PM
Headline needs alteration:

The Republican s' Farcical Candidates Party in its Entirety
A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses
 
2011-12-01 12:35:55 PM
That was the single most honest article about the GOP race I've ever read.
 
2011-12-01 12:39:47 PM
With the fringe on both sides of the aisle deciding that only extreme partisans will get pass the primaries maybe now is the time to change how voting for president is done. The US could have two election days. The first one anyone that can collect enough signatures to be put on the ballot and the second 3 months later with the top two vote getters presenting their ideas and America actually having choice besides what a small group nut jobs force candidates into accepting as "best plans" for the US

I know there is sane and reasonable people in the US the would do a great job but Spiegel does accurately describe the current choices
 
2011-12-01 12:40:56 PM
Gonz: That was the single most honest article about the GOP race I've ever read.

THIS

Wow. That article should be required reading for everyone in the political class and the media.
 
2011-12-01 12:41:49 PM
markie_farkie: The author has no ground to stand on.

His country's government has yet to apologize for bombing Pearl Harbor.


+1
 
2011-12-01 12:53:09 PM
Gonz: That was the single most honest article about the GOP race I've ever read.

Yes, and this would be the THREAD WINNAH if it were not for this:

markie_farkie: The author has no ground to stand on.

His country's government has yet to apologize for bombing Pearl Harbor.
 
2011-12-01 01:00:01 PM
Well, the Republicans have so cowed the US (corporate) media by yelling "liberal media bias" every time the media tries to call them out on their bullshiat that no US media is going to give such realistic coverage of this idiocy.
 
2011-12-01 01:04:24 PM
Yeah, but have they offered any solutions to this problem?
 
2011-12-01 01:07:30 PM
That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".
 
2011-12-01 01:07:51 PM
ultraholland: any solutions

I think you're looking for a vinyl solution (new window)
 
2011-12-01 01:07:52 PM
ultraholland: Yeah, but have they offered any solutions to this problem?

They've offered a few, but they've yet to come up with one that's enduring.
 
2011-12-01 01:15:34 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

Take Herman Cain, "businessman." He sat out the first wave of sexual harassment claims against him by offering a peculiar argument: Most ladies he had encountered in his life, he said, had not complained.

In the most recent twist, a woman accused Cain of having carried on a 13-year affair with her. That, too, he tried to casually wave off, but now, under pressure, he says he wants to "reassess" his campaign.

If Cain indeed drops out, the campaign would lose its biggest caricature: He has been the most factually challenged of all these jesters.

As CEO of the "Godfather's" pizza chain, Cain killed jobs -- but now poses as the job-creator-in-chief. Meanwhile, he seems to lack basic economic know-how, let alone a rudimentary grasp of politics or geography. Libya confounds him. He does not believe that China is a nuclear power. And all other, slightly more complicated questions get a stock answer: "Nine-nine-nine!" Remember? That's Cain's tax reduction plan that would actually raise taxes for 84 percent of Americans.


Which part of that would you like to dispute?
 
2011-12-01 01:17:55 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

When journalism is balanced, it doesn't mean that the writers fail to make judgements in order to protect the feelings of the persons whom the piece is about.
 
2011-12-01 01:25:22 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

A Commentary by Marc Pitzke

A Commentary by Marc Pitzke

A Commentary by Marc Pitzke
 
2011-12-01 01:25:24 PM
eurotrader: With the fringe on both sides of the aisle deciding that only extreme partisans will get pass the primaries maybe now is the time to change how voting for president is done. The US could have two election days. The first one anyone that can collect enough signatures to be put on the ballot and the second 3 months later with the top two vote getters presenting their ideas and America actually having choice besides what a small group nut jobs force candidates into accepting as "best plans" for the US

I would bet the cable "news" nets would have a big problem with this. They like the system the way it is, and are probably the ones chiefly responsible for the fact presidential campaigns start earlier each election cycle.

We could do a lot worse than going back to the days of political bosses in smoke-filled back rooms choosing the candidates.
 
2011-12-01 01:34:35 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

That's the problem. If someone calls a Republican out for being a complete and total idiot, the Republicans scream that the media is not being balanced. I'm sorry, an idiot is an idiot. But I congratulate you and your kind into cowing the media into not calling a pile of shiat a pile of shiat when it clearly is. I mean, that wouldn't be fair to Republicans and might hurt their little feelings.
 
2011-12-01 01:51:59 PM
A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses
 
2011-12-01 01:53:47 PM
"A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses"

To be fair - you could attach this headline to just about any political party.
 
2011-12-01 01:53:52 PM
If you call out republican lies you are not fair and balanced and are part of the liberal media conspiracy.
 
2011-12-01 01:53:55 PM
www.physicianschoiceinsurance.com
 
2011-12-01 01:54:01 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

Dispute any single fact or idea from in that entire article. Go ahead, we'll wait.
 
2011-12-01 01:54:42 PM
Don't mention the war.
 
2011-12-01 01:55:01 PM
HighOnCraic: /No one who speaks German could possibly be an evil man.

I have it on good authority that the God himself uses the German language for all his "heavy business".
 
2011-12-01 01:55:11 PM
The article fails to mention that even a jammed stapler or a half-eaten peanut butter sandwich would make a much better president than what we currently have. Has the GOP put anything a whole lot better than that up there? No, but luckily, they won't need to.
 
2011-12-01 01:55:12 PM
Just gonna leave this here for what I see taking place already.

i.qkme.me
 
2011-12-01 01:55:39 PM
WorldCitizen [TotalFark] 2011-12-01 01:34:35 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

That's the problem. If someone calls a Republican out for being a complete and total idiot, the Republicans scream that the media is not being balanced. I'm sorry, an idiot is an idiot. But I congratulate you and your kind into cowing the media into not calling a pile of shiat a pile of shiat when it clearly is. I mean, that wouldn't be fair to Republicans and might hurt their little feelings.

Keep pretending you couldn't do a find/replace and swap dim for rep and have the same hypocritical outrage from the left.

// how many states?
 
2011-12-01 01:55:42 PM
kukukupo: "A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses"

To be fair - you could attach this headline to just about any political party.


yeah to more accurately fit republicans you'd need to put the words "the biggest" in there.
 
2011-12-01 01:55:43 PM
Vodka Zombie: unyon: Genuine Republicans should be asking themselves why the hell is Buddy Roemer is not in the debates. He's experienced, intelligent, and acceptable. Apparently, there's no room for that in this election cycle.

Especially since they hold Reagan up to be something of a saint. You'd think they'd see Roemer as some sort of second coming. The guy's a Reagan-lite Republican who isn't a gibbering moron.


They treat Reagan like they treat the Bible.. They pick and choose what parts they 'like' about him, and ignore everything else.

If Reagan had run in today's political climate, he'd be called a RINO.
 
2011-12-01 01:55:53 PM
Symptom, not disease!
 
2011-12-01 01:57:04 PM
Fark Me Runnin: The article fails to mention that even a jammed stapler or a half-eaten peanut butter sandwich would make a much better president than what we currently have. Has the GOP put anything a whole lot better than that up there? No, but luckily, they won't need to.

"whistling in the dark" google it.
 
2011-12-01 01:57:11 PM
HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

Take Herman Cain, "businessman." He sat out the first wave of sexual harassment claims against him by offering a peculiar argument: Most ladies he had encountered in his life, he said, had not complained.

In the most recent twist, a woman accused Cain of having carried on a 13-year affair with her. That, too, he tried to casually wave off, but now, under pressure, he says he wants to "reassess" his campaign.

If Cain indeed drops out, the campaign would lose its biggest caricature: He has been the most factually challenged of all these jesters.

As CEO of the "Godfather's" pizza chain, Cain killed jobs -- but now poses as the job-creator-in-chief. Meanwhile, he seems to lack basic economic know-how, let alone a rudimentary grasp of politics or geography. Libya confounds him. He does not believe that China is a nuclear power. And all other, slightly more complicated questions get a stock answer: "Nine-nine-nine!" Remember? That's Cain's tax reduction plan that would actually raise taxes for 84 percent of Americans.

Which part of that would you like to dispute?


I'll pick:

"Take Herman Cain, "businessman." He sat out the first wave of sexual harassment claims against him"

What first wave of sexual harrassment claims did he sit out?

Surely they are not referring to the "claims" that had:

No names attached to them.
No faces attached to them.
No witnesses to them.
No evidence attached to them.
No documentation attached to them.
No person that could be questioned about them.
No method of verifying them.

So I would need clarification on what they were referring to as the first wave.
 
2011-12-01 01:57:33 PM
the US media now reflexively hails him as a "Man of Ideas" (The Washington Post) -- even though most of these ideas are lousy if not downright offensive, such as firing unionized school janitors, so poor children could do their jobs.

I was a poor kid who went to a poor school, and my after school job was...being a janitor for the school. It paid money, the rooms got clean, and they didn't have to hire a second full time person for the really crappy jobs that didn't take all day to do. We had one full time janitor and about five students who worked part time.

That's not really an offensive idea. If you don't need an FTE to clean the school and you have poor kids who need money, it's win-win. Granted, I was in high school. Grade school is probably a little young to have kids running around with chemicals.

Otherwise, he seems pretty spot on about the candidates. This has not been a good primary year for the Republicans.
 
2011-12-01 01:58:53 PM
LordJiro: If Reagan had run in today's political climate, he'd be called a RINO.

Hell with that - he'd be called a full-on, screaming, prancing Libtard.
 
2011-12-01 01:59:34 PM
I've posted this before but as someone who have voted (R) in every presidential election for the last 20 years I can't see myself voting for any of these clowns and if they've lost someone like me how the hell can anyone expect they will win anything in this election?

Then again I guess I shouldnt be surprised by anything that happens anymore.
 
2011-12-01 01:59:38 PM
HighOnCraic: If Cain indeed drops out, the campaign would lose its biggest caricature: He has been the most factually challenged of all these jesters.

Which part of that would you like to dispute?


I'd like to dispute the factually challenged part, I think Michelle Bachmann could challenge him for that title, unfortunately you'd need a hand count to figure out the winner, which I'm too lazy to do. Cain does win as the most (unintentionally?) hilarious candidate in the race though.

MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

Maybe you would like to see Both Sides.
 
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2011-12-01 02:00:50 PM
Buh-buh-buh-but Clinton!
 
2011-12-01 02:00:52 PM
kukukupo: "A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses"

To be fair - you could attach this headline to just about any political party.


The GOP is just working much harder than most to live up to the billing.
 
2011-12-01 02:00:58 PM
Oh boy, a smear editorial! Truly the Fourth Estate's masterwork.
 
2011-12-01 02:01:11 PM
Spot on.
 
2011-12-01 02:01:21 PM
MeinRS6: That was certainly a balanced piece of "journalism".

I get what you mean. The author was too nice and didn't go far enough.
 
2011-12-01 02:01:47 PM
Twenty, thirty more debates and I'm sure they'll all make sense.
 
2011-12-01 02:02:45 PM
Wow. Nail. Head. And that's just on the opening summary.

Gut getan, Der Spiegel.
 
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