SHUT THE FARK UP!

Black rage!!!

However, when these artifacts were made, instead of being desolate, Arabia was very wet, with copious rain falling across the peninsula, transforming its barren deserts to fertile, sprawling grasslands with lots of animals to hunt, the researchers explained.

"For a while, South Arabia became a verdant paradise rich in resources - large game, plentiful fresh water, and high-quality flint with which to make stone tools," Rose said.

Proof of anthropogenic global warming. Humans turned Arabia into a desert before they turned it into a glass parking lot.

What a "Nubian" might look like...

Can't wait to get ahold of that new comic book "White-Hating Coon"

gg no re nubs!

thx la~

I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

StoneColdAtheist: What a "Nubian" might look like...

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What else a Nubian may look like:




Specifically a J-Type 327 Nubian.

Nerubian?

Corporal Cecil Wormsborough St John "Nobby" Nobbs has been wondering the same thing for years.

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Why children don't work as scientists like adults?

I'LL KILL ANY WHITE FOLK I LAY MY MOTHERFARKING EYES ON

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Certainly just as creative, but there's a lot of infrastructure involved in the post-agricultural explosion.

Agriculture facilitated specialization.

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Maybe read "Guns, Germs, and Steel"? The first section pretty much covers everything you bring up, and its written in a format that stresses ease of understanding over real rigor so it shouldn't confuse you too much.

And by "covers everything you bring up" I mostly mean corrects your various complete failures on knowing facts, not really "answers your questions". Most of what you're actually asking is pretty much a non-sequitir in the context of actual anthropology since your underlying assumptions are all, um, pretty dumb.

//Agriculture had a long, long period of development, for one thing, it didn't just spontaneously pop up 16k years back over the course of a couple months.

Jim_Callahan: MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Maybe read "Guns, Germs, and Steel"? The first section pretty much covers everything you bring up, and its written in a format that stresses ease of understanding over real rigor so it shouldn't confuse you too much.

And by "covers everything you bring up" I mostly mean corrects your various complete failures on knowing facts, not really "answers your questions". Most of what you're actually asking is pretty much a non-sequitir in the context of actual anthropology since your underlying assumptions are all, um, pretty dumb.

//Agriculture had a long, long period of development, for one thing, it didn't just spontaneously pop up 16k years back over the course of a couple months.

Indeed. See: Chapter 7 How to Make an Almond

NEVER take your eyes off Neolithic Man.

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Short Version:

It takes X people working on the farm to feed Y people. MAXY is the maximum value of Y or the carrying capacity of the land.

If X > Y, you have famine.

If X == Y, you have sustainability, which means that everyone farms so that they can eat, and few advances can be made because all of your energy is going straight to keeping yourself alive.

If X less than Y, you have surplus population Z := (Y-X), that is able to sit around doing all those things that we think of as civilization.

For most of those 90,000 years, X>=Y, and both numbers were EXTREMELY low. Then agriculture hits(over a period of time), MAXY goes way up, and Z magically becomes greater than 0. Cue civilization.

meyerkev: MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Short Version:

It takes X people working on the farm to feed Y people. MAXY is the maximum value of Y or the carrying capacity of the land.

If X > Y, you have famine.

If X == Y, you have sustainability, which means that everyone farms so that they can eat, and few advances can be made because all of your energy is going straight to keeping yourself alive.

If X less than Y, you have surplus population Z := (Y-X), that is able to sit around doing all those things that we think of as civilization.

For most of those 90,000 years, X>=Y, and both numbers were EXTREMELY low. Then agriculture hits(over a period of time), MAXY goes way up, and Z magically becomes greater than 0. Cue civilization.

Where do aliens fit into this?

meyerkev: MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Short Version:

It takes X people working on the farm to feed Y people. MAXY is the maximum value of Y or the carrying capacity of the land.

If X > Y, you have famine.

If X == Y, you have sustainability, which means that everyone farms so that they can eat, and few advances can be made because all of your energy is going straight to keeping yourself alive.

If X less than Y, you have surplus population Z := (Y-X), that is able to sit around doing all those things that we think of as civilization.

For most of those 90,000 years, X>=Y, and both numbers were EXTREMELY low. Then agriculture hits(over a period of time), MAXY goes way up, and Z magically becomes greater than 0. Cue civilization.

Stealing this.... well worded.

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Humans being just as "creative and striving" is exactly why it didn't take very long. Agriculture means we don't have to spend all day hunting, so people are free to expend that creativity on other things. We can have more children. We don't have to migrate to find our food, so we can make structures and tools that we could not travel with. It allows us to know where other groups will be so that we can trade (or fight) with them.

It's someone from a region in or near Egypt?

meyerkev: MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Short Version:

It takes X people working on the farm to feed Y people. MAXY is the maximum value of Y or the carrying capacity of the land.

If X > Y, you have famine.

If X == Y, you have sustainability, which means that everyone farms so that they can eat, and few advances can be made because all of your energy is going straight to keeping yourself alive.

If X less than Y, you have surplus population Z := (Y-X), that is able to sit around doing all those things that we think of as civilization.

For most of those 90,000 years, X>=Y, and both numbers were EXTREMELY low. Then agriculture hits(over a period of time), MAXY goes way up, and Z magically becomes greater than 0. Cue civilization.

Hunter-gatherers actually have a fair amount of free time. It's just that you won't be bothering to invent anything you can't readily carry on your back, or needs any sort of infrastructure to support it. That would merely get in the way when you go to follow the game, or the herbs and berry bushes coming into season to the next bivouac.

MindStalker: I never seriously understood how anthropologist expect us to believe that humans sat around achieving nothing for 90,000 years, then boom, all of a sudden we have our modern society in less than 10,000 years after agriculture. Humans were just as creative and striving then as they are now.

Agriculture led to the widespread availability of fermented grain products, which had two separate effects:
1: Something safer to drink than water was available, leading to fewer deaths from disease.
2: Beer goggles discovered.
3: More people survived + more people getting it on = population growth.

Gentrification!

Lando was a nubian