In the last 15 years or so, the Oscar people usually enjoy giving the best picture award to the wanky, pretentious film instead of the one that the people enjoy and deserves the award.

So, whichever film you've never heard of is the one that will win.

/Oscar voters are the ultimate hipsters.

realmolo: I saw the movie. It was pretty weak, honestly. This whole "The Muppets Are Back!" thing is just hype.

Disagree.

Remember what the Muppets ARE. They aren't about spectacle or thrills. They aren't even about plot. They're about optimism, friendship, and a belief that when you join with others and get to work absolutely anything can be accomplished. They're about laughing and having a good time without having to laugh AT somebody (they sure as hell aren't about the modern trend toward embarrassment based humor); while they are caricatures of us, they also can represent the best of us.

I thought The Muppets was great; it had everything I expected a Muppet movie to have, and even the premise of this one worked for me. The Muppets depend on a world where humans and muppets live side by side and that's perfectly normal (just like every other Muppet-centric show or movie), and I can easily see how after a wild ride of success a group could just drift apart (some to further success, most to being forgotten). It all came back together perfectly.

I can easily see why the Academy won't award it for much of anything of significance, but it was a great movie- not the deepest, not the most profound, but charming, funny, and uplifting.

I can only hope this means the Muppets are back... good God, we need them to be back- we need some lighthearted and optimistic fun right now in the worst farking way.

GoHomeAndGetYourShinebox: nothing can make a Muppet movie worthy of Best Picture at the Oscars. They are fun, but they lack depth and significance

WayToBlue: 96 - The English Patient
97 - Titanic
98 - Shakespeare in Love
99 - American Beauty
00 - Gladiator
01 - Beautiful Mind
02 - Chicago
03 - LOTR: Return of the King
04 - Million Dollar Baby
05 - Crash
06 - The Departed
07 - No Country for Old Men
08 - Slumdog Millionaire
09 - The Hurt Locker
10 - The King's Speech

Yeah, Titanic, American Beauty, and Gladiator were really deep movies full of significance, exploring and defining the human condition in ways that left us all richer.

I get it, the Academy is looking for what they consider to be deep and meaningful, but the simple fact is that very often what they consider to be deep and meaningful is bullshiat. It's only deep and meaningful if you're stoned at the time. You can tap a reservoir of emotions without the film itself being actually meaningful; Pixar has done that more than once without getting a Best Picture award.

Part of what makes the Oscars complete and utter BS is that the people think they're being meaningful. Sometimes a film can be actual art, but the real purpose for the vast majority of them is nothing more than entertainment. It's self important rich folk sucking each others' dicks for a few hours while they pretend they actually made an impact in the world.

Hell, even Muppets Tonight had more to offer.

Wow, Statler and Waldorf have a lot of Fark alts.