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....has some thoughts on the matter.

Was waiting for the Fever ref, leaving satisfied

More dangerous to drive drunk, more fun to drive stoned

Diogenes: ....has some thoughts on the matter.

But which is more likely to make you see a Pig Painting the lobby?

Since I'm stoned all the time, I pretty much drive stoned every time. Even got pulled over after I'd been smoking and driving.

Never been in an accident.

However, I fell off my bicycle onto concrete and smashed up my face TWICE while drunk. I just fell...off...the...damn...bike. I won't drive even I've been drinking a little.

Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.

okay, to put it back inside your morals. when are you better off walking down the sidewalk, drunk or stoned?

the answer is the same however you apply it.

Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.

Why do people find this concept so hard to grasp?

If I had to choose who'd I'd rather encounter on the road, it's going to be the stoner every time.

Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.



There is no such thing as "buzzed driving" - there is only driving impaired.

now potheads will have one more thing to be insufferable about.

who'd I'd. Good job, me.

moops: Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.

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There is no such thing as "buzzed driving" - there is only driving impaired.


Come on, how are you going to keep EVERY woman from driving?

FTA: "A couple of studies even suggest that pot smokers are less likely to cause an accident than sober drivers."


Uhuh. Real unbiased reporting, you rarely see that these days.

nburghmatt: when are you better off walking down the sidewalk, drunk or stoned?

I can comment on this, drunk you fall off the sidewalk into traffic, stoned you end up a mile from your house wondering where you were going. However in both cases it is impossible to walk past the combination Huddle House/Convenience store next to my old college apartment.

The pizza delivery guy is stoned. Hey may be a few minutes late, but he got there in one piece. Your pizza, however, is missing a slice.

Drunk drivers drive through red lights.
Stoned drivers stop at green lights.

This is a generalization, of course, but I have found that people who drive stoned tend to be overly cautious. That doesn't mean it's safe, but it's probably safer than driving drunk.

Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.

Then 50% of the population needs to stay off the roads because I consider being a female as a driver as an impairment.

Driving stoned isnt really that big of an impairment. Sure your reflexes arent super fast but you drive slower automatically. How many news articles have you read about a person getting into a wreck while speeding WHILE stoned?

/waits

You cannot stop your self from driving drunk once you black out ...
why would you drive anywhere stoned ... maybe just to get more weed ...

I'm on the 'don't drive impaired' team, but...

stoned drivers > old people > 16 year old girls > drunk drivers

Quasar: It's probably more dangerous to drive while sleepy.

This. Sleepiness plus the gentle soothing hum of the motor plus the monotony of not moving at all for 3-4 minutes at a time = Bad things happening.

/Fell asleep in right lane of interstate. Woke up 5 miles and 2 turns later in left lane. Pulled off at the next exit, grabbed some caffeine pills and food, and finished the drive.

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/you ARE freaking out, man

nburghmatt: Aarontology: It doesn't matter.

You don't drive when you're impaired at all.

okay, to put it back inside your morals. when are you better off walking down the sidewalk, drunk or stoned?

the answer is the same however you apply it.

The difference is you are not moving a one ton machine at speed while walking. I am pro pot, would probably even smoke again if legalized but do not think people should be behind the wheel while high/drunk

It's irresponsible to drive impaired. That being said, driving stoned isnt a big deal if you aren't new to getting stoned especially once you understand the difference between indica and sativa and what works for you.

/doesn't work the same with alcohol
//used to work at a dispensary

Drunk, you don't give a fark.

Stoned, you're driving 5mph on the right shoulder

pickledick: It's irresponsible to drive impaired. That being said, driving stoned isnt a big deal if you aren't new to getting stoned especially once you understand the difference between indica and sativa and what works for you.

/doesn't work the same with alcohol
//used to work at a dispensary

why would you quit that job!

A drunk driver will run a stop sign. A stoned driver will stop and wait for it to turn green.

TrainingWheelsNeeded: pickledick: It's irresponsible to drive impaired. That being said, driving stoned isnt a big deal if you aren't new to getting stoned especially once you understand the difference between indica and sativa and what works for you.

/doesn't work the same with alcohol
//used to work at a dispensary

why would you quit that job!
Boss was a total psychopath. The last time i saw him, he invited me over and offered me some weed for bringing him food. I show up and he's on shrooms, screaming at me about various things. He has a 3D tv, he thought the 3D was on when it wasn't. When i pointed out "if it's in 3D, why can any of us see what's on the screen without the glasses."

He went ballistic, screaming that I somehow changed the settings among other things. Told him to eat a dick and left.

FTA: "A couple of studies even suggest that pot smokers are less likely to cause an accident than sober drivers."


Uhuh. Real unbiased reporting, you rarely see that these days.

Assuming that's sarcasm do you think it's biased only b/c is doesn't agree with your preconceived notion? Do you have a couple of studies indicating the contrary?

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TrainingWheelsNeeded: pickledick: It's irresponsible to drive impaired. That being said, driving stoned isnt a big deal if you aren't new to getting stoned especially once you understand the difference between indica and sativa and what works for you.

/doesn't work the same with alcohol
//used to work at a dispensary

why would you quit that job!

From what I understand, they don't pay that well. My Brother in Law works in a state that has dispensaries. He had to quit too because all they paid was minimum wage. Turns out, there's a ton of people who can stand around and talk about pot all day long.

Someone neds to come up with a way to fieldtest marijuana levels (for traffic stops) without drawing blood. This will help the legalization movement. We've heard from too many folks that their biggest problem is you can tell when someone's drunk as the breathalyzers are pretty accurate, but you'll never be able to tell a guy that's had a few puffs from the guy that is blown out and genuinely impaired if they play it cool.

I love how I can go to the store and buy alcohol and drink myself to death but something that would never kill me is under the banhammer

teylix: Then 50% of the population needs to stay off the roads because I consider being a female as a driver as an impairment.

I consider stupidity an impairment, so the percentage is even higher.

You can run over a dozen schoolchildren and get away with it if it was caused by your stupidity, but god help you if you're drunk.

pickledick: TrainingWheelsNeeded: pickledick: It's irresponsible to drive impaired. That being said, driving stoned isnt a big deal if you aren't new to getting stoned especially once you understand the difference between indica and sativa and what works for you.

/doesn't work the same with alcohol
//used to work at a dispensary

why would you quit that job!
Boss was a total psychopath. The last time i saw him, he invited me over and offered me some weed for bringing him food. I show up and he's on shrooms, screaming at me about various things. He has a 3D tv, he thought the 3D was on when it wasn't. When i pointed out "if it's in 3D, why can any of us see what's on the screen without the glasses."

He went ballistic, screaming that I somehow changed the settings among other things. Told him to eat a dick and left.

yikes.

downstairs: J. Frank Parnell: You can run over a dozen schoolchildren and get away with it if it was caused by your stupidity, but god help you if you're drunk.

So much this. I know everyone has their "my city has the worst drivers" thing... but since moving down to New Orleans... damn. People are so completely brain dead. I seriously have to stop at every corner- stop sign or not- to make sure someone doesn't run their stop sign and hit me.

They would probably be coming home from Mardi Gras, since you guys must celebrate it year round down there.

Pot makes you think you are a worse driver. Alcohol makes you think you are a better one. But they both objectively make you a worse driver.

Some people say there is no such thing as a stupid question...but honestly, to ask if it is somehow more dangerous to drive under the influence of Cannabis than under the influence of alcohol is an incredibly stupid question.

Alcohol abuse is quite clearly in EVERY WAY more damaging to the individual, and society, than is Cannabis "abuse"....and really only an incredibly ignorant person would be unaware of that medical/scientific fact in this day and age.

In terms of driving impairment, as the article unsurprisingly noted, it isn't even FARKing close.....driving drunk is provably FAR worse.

/RE-legalize it!

Your doing it wrong.

One must drink AND smoke to achieve optimum driving ability.

\add a little blow to, ya know, keep your wits about you

Epidemiological studies show that drivers with a blood THC level of more than 10 ng/mL, about one-half of a joint, are far more likely than sober drivers to cause an accident.

That is all we need to know. The entire rest of the article was only lame argumentation trying to explain away this obvious fact.

You want to prevent accidents and save lives? Keep all of the drunks and stoners from driving.

Smoking and driving just takes practice.

/at least that's what I heard