Yeah, go ahead and get in line behind Dice.

FTFA : "So I tried to watch Mencia's new special with what I hoped was an open mind. Mencia did, I concede, lose me a bit right at the opening when he said, to riotous applause, that "the United States of America, on our worst day, is better than any other country on their best day. Period. End of story." "

How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?
Seems the author is just butthurt that someone makes a living telling jokes that do not conform to the political views of the Williamsburg hipsters, but that conforms with the sloppy and knee-jerk left writing that I've come to expect from Slate. Maybe one day they'll learn to stick to the topic and explain their arguments better.

/never understood why Mencia is so lazy to steal jokes
//he has plenty of very funny original material

He's going to use all of Greg Giraldo's and Patrice's jokes this time.

FISH DICKS!!

I GET IT NOW!!

BAH-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Carlos Mencia attempting a comeback is like Rosie O'Donnell attempting to return to being skinny and endearing.

2 Mencia links before 7 am? This is gonna be a rough day...

You have to have "been" before you can "come back."

Joe Rogan approves of this headline.

rocinante721: In other Steal-ya moves, just found out that Jay Mohr's hilarious Tracey Morgan (new window) story was ripped off from Bert The Machine Kreisher (new window)


true, but Kreisher gave Mohr permission to use the story. there's a nuance to it.

i know Mohr loves him some Kreisher but.....that laugh has to go. Unlistenable. It just seems so damn contrived.

White people glance over stories about irrelevant comedians and post glib comments like this! (HAHAHOHO!)

I don't care about him being a joke thief. I just think he's the absolute opposite of funny. Yelling is not comedy. Telling a racist joke, then calling the listener racist for not laughing at it, is not funny. "Retard voice" is not funny. Does this bucket of vomit have compromising photos of someone over at Comedy Central or something? He makes George Lopez look like George Carlin, for fark's sake.

beta_plus: FTFA : "So I tried to watch Mencia's new special with what I hoped was an open mind. Mencia did, I concede, lose me a bit right at the opening when he said, to riotous applause, that "the United States of America, on our worst day, is better than any other country on their best day. Period. End of story." "

How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?
Seems the author is just butthurt that someone makes a living telling jokes that do not conform to the political views of the Williamsburg hipsters, but that conforms with the sloppy and knee-jerk left writing that I've come to expect from Slate. Maybe one day they'll learn to stick to the topic and explain their arguments better.

/never understood why Mencia is so lazy to steal jokes
//he has plenty of very funny original material

For a second I thought you were making a reasonable argument, but then...

/retard and beaner jokes are sooo funny and topical

FTA: "And soon I found myself trying to fact-check some of Mencia's bits."
Are you so big of a dumbass that you would actually fact check a comedian's bad jokes?

beta_plus: FTFA : "So I tried to watch Mencia's new special with what I hoped was an open mind. Mencia did, I concede, lose me a bit right at the opening when he said, to riotous applause, that "the United States of America, on our worst day, is better than any other country on their best day. Period. End of story." "

How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?
Seems the author is just butthurt that someone makes a living telling jokes that do not conform to the political views of the Williamsburg hipsters, but that conforms with the sloppy and knee-jerk left writing that I've come to expect from Slate. Maybe one day they'll learn to stick to the topic and explain their arguments better.

/never understood why Mencia is so lazy to steal jokes
//he has plenty of very funny original material

It's not germane, but it is absolutely pathetic. Geographical ass-kissing is a lazy sop to the audience.

It's like a band who proclaims in St. Louis that "NOBODY ROCKS LIKE ST. LOUIS!" and then of course repeats the same in Cleveland and then Detroit and so on.

Then again, many people absolutely love having their ass kissed regardless of how blatant it is. I see it as disdainful for the audience, but if you've ever worked in sales you've seen how people will eat that shiat up. You can feed people a ton of bullshiat once you've told them how great they are.

InOmnibusCaritas: Carlos Mencia is attempting a comebackwith other people's material. You submitted stole this headline from someone else's bit two years ago 1 green light ago and it waswasn't funnier then either
FTFY subby.

FTA: "Half the Comic He Used to Be"

Something something, divide by zero, something.

offacue: He's going to use all of Greg Giraldo's and Patrice's jokes this time.

Yes, but during the punchline, he'll YELL IT TO MAKE IT FUNNER!

beta_plus: FTFA : "So I tried to watch Mencia's new special with what I hoped was an open mind. Mencia did, I concede, lose me a bit right at the opening when he said, to riotous applause, that "the United States of America, on our worst day, is better than any other country on their best day. Period. End of story." "

How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?
Seems the author is just butthurt that someone makes a living telling jokes that do not conform to the political views of the Williamsburg hipsters, but that conforms with the sloppy and knee-jerk left writing that I've come to expect from Slate. Maybe one day they'll learn to stick to the topic and explain their arguments better.

/never understood why Mencia is so lazy to steal jokes
//he has plenty of very funny original material

Maybe what he meant was that saying something like that to a crowd adds nothing to a show, and is only used to pander to the lowest common denominator of mouth breathing podunk mongoloids for cheap applause? Maybe one day you'll stop trying to make a strawman to ignore the actual problem the writer has with this scumbag and explain your arguments better. Then again, you probably can't hear me over the sound of you cheering to a live cut of every Toby Kieth song ever released.

/He's not lazy, it took hard work for him to be such a sleazy thief
//Really.

rocinante721: Actually, listen to the last 10 mins of Kreisher on Joe Rogan podcast this past week. He's being diplomatic, but is pissed Mohr had been telling it as his own story & felt pressured not to fight it, given his lower standing in the comedy scene.


Huh. I'll look for that, thanks.

Kreisher was on Jay Mohr's podcast, "Mohr Stories", just a few months ago (like, episode 3 or 4, and they're only up to #22 as of today) , and they went over how -- as you note -- Kreisher was the one who was at the club with Morgan, and Mohr wanted him to use the story in his act, but Kreisher thought it wouldn't work. And on the podcast, Kreisher says (to paraphrase), "you asked me if you could have the story, I didn't care, it's all good."

at one point, Kreisher even says Rogan approached him and asked if it was true that Jay "stole" the joke, but Kreisher says, on Morh's podcast, that he told Rogan everything was cool. It seemed like they were 100% legit about the use of the story.

anyways.

/kreisher's laugh

scottydoesntknow: Joe Rogan used to annoy me. Then I found out he's a stoner (and open about it). Then I found out he actually knows how to fight (making him a good UFC commentator). Then I also found out he HATES Ned and calls him out whenever he can.


he does seem pretty cool. he seems like the kind of guy that would be awesome to have a couple of brews with.

some of his claims are a bit out there though.....like on adam carolla, he was talking about how Orcas are super advanced, and he claimed that prior to WWII, orcas in the pacitfic northwest would kill like, X number of humans every year. Then, once WWII started, US fighter pilots began doing target practice on orcas. and then the death rate completely stopped.

He then infers that the orcas got together, and using their amazing orca ESP, agreed amongst themselves, "hey, these humans, they have superior firepower, they must be pissed at us, from now on, NO MORE EATING HUMANS."

he asserted this.

now, he could be right, but....it's the kind of extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof.

it might have been the same podcast, but he was talking about how the active ingredient in psychoactive mushrooms (he recited the chemical compound which was pretty cool in itself, like 'tetrahydrocabinol delta 9 gamma hydrocholiric omega RNA sequence 89") and then claimed, the only other place that compound has been detected is in comets.

again, extraordianry claim, extraordinary proof.

but he seems pretty freaking cool.

Balchinian: Carlos Mencia attempting a comeback is like Rosie O'Donnell attempting to return to being skinny and endearing.

Neither of those things were ever true.

Rapmaster2000: Geographical ass-kissing is a lazy sop to the audience.

It's like a band who proclaims in St. Louis that "NOBODY ROCKS LIKE ST. LOUIS!" and then of course repeats the same in Cleveland and then Detroit and so on.

What!?!?!?!?!

Doctor_TeethMD: beta_plus: FTFA : "So I tried to watch Mencia's new special with what I hoped was an open mind. Mencia did, I concede, lose me a bit right at the opening when he said, to riotous applause, that "the United States of America, on our worst day, is better than any other country on their best day. Period. End of story." "

How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?
Seems the author is just butthurt that someone makes a living telling jokes that do not conform to the political views of the Williamsburg hipsters, but that conforms with the sloppy and knee-jerk left writing that I've come to expect from Slate. Maybe one day they'll learn to stick to the topic and explain their arguments better.

/never understood why Mencia is so lazy to steal jokes
//he has plenty of very funny original material

Maybe what he meant was that saying something like that to a crowd adds nothing to a show, and is only used to pander to the lowest common denominator of mouth breathing podunk mongoloids for cheap applause? Maybe one day you'll stop trying to make a strawman to ignore the actual problem the writer has with this scumbag and explain your arguments better. Then again, you probably can't hear me over the sound of you cheering to a live cut of every Toby Kieth song ever released.

/He's not lazy, it took hard work for him to be such a sleazy thief
//Really.

That has always been the ironic thing, how much work goes into avoiding work.

/still bugged at how he claimed his show wasn't going to be a Hispanic version of Dave Chappele's, then gave us one anyway.

Mexicans are not funny.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mexicans are not funny.

But we'll try to be funny for a fifth of the pay.

//We're stealing all the best hard working American jokes!

Jim Jefferies is my current favorite comic of the week/month/howeverlongittakesmetofindsomeonenew.

With all the truly funny and original comics out there, why does this douchebag get any attention at all?

scottydoesntknow: Joe Rogan used to annoy me. Then I found out he's a stoner (and open about it). Then I found out he actually knows how to fight (making him a good UFC commentator). Then I also found out he HATES Ned and calls him out whenever he can.

Rogan doesn't annoy me anymore.

I used to like Joe Rogan, but his crusade against (perceived) jokes thieves comes across as a whiny rant form a guy who never quite made it.

Like that guy we know who was in a band (maybe even had some success)...but it never took off to the next level...now all he does is talk about how [insert every bad ever] sucks.

/Maybe's he right...maybe's he wrong...But listening to people whine about joke stealing is just as annoying.
//Honestly? If I was a comedian, and stealing some jokes would help launch me from 50 seat clubs in stupid backwater towns to selling out arena, tv dealss and making millions...I would do it without a second thought.

Who?

rickythepenguin: scottydoesntknow: Joe Rogan used to annoy me. Then I found out he's a stoner (and open about it). Then I found out he actually knows how to fight (making him a good UFC commentator). Then I also found out he HATES Ned and calls him out whenever he can.


he does seem pretty cool. he seems like the kind of guy that would be awesome to have a couple of brews with.

some of his claims are a bit out there though.....like on adam carolla, he was talking about how Orcas are super advanced, and he claimed that prior to WWII, orcas in the pacitfic northwest would kill like, X number of humans every year. Then, once WWII started, US fighter pilots began doing target practice on orcas. and then the death rate completely stopped. He then infers that the orcas got together, and using their amazing orca ESP, agreed amongst themselves, "hey, these humans, they have superior firepower, they must be pissed at us, from now on, NO MORE EATING HUMANS." now, he could be right, but....it's the kind of extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof.

Wiki - "There have been very few confirmed attacks on humans by wild killer whales, none of which has been fatal."

it might have been the same podcast, but he was talking about how the active ingredient in psychoactive mushrooms (he recited the chemical compound which was pretty cool in itself, like 'tetrahydrocabinol delta 9 gamma hydrocholiric omega RNA sequence 89") and then claimed, the only other place that compound has been detected is in comets. again, extraordianry claim, extraordinary proof.

Psilocybin is O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine - Wiki - "Psilocybin is a tryptamine compound having a chemical structure derived from the amino acid tryptophan and containing an indole linked to an ethylamine substituent; psilocybin bears a close structural resemblance to the neurotransmitter serotonin."

Finding complex molecules like this on comets would be as earth-shattering as finding life on another planet..

but he seems pretty freaking cool.

No, he's an arrogant jerk who talks out his ass. Rogan is also a moon-landing-hoax supporter; that's all you need to know about that jackass.

I know one program I won't be watching....

mrtoadswildride: I used to like Joe Rogan, but his crusade against (perceived) jokes thieves comes across as a whiny rant form a guy who never quite made it.

By "made it" do you mean made it to the top of stand-up comedy? I realize he's a mediocre stand-up comic at best, but he's definitely "made it" in the showbiz sense.

He still can get stand-up gigs, he's had a steady gig as a UFC color guy for years, hosts Fear Factor, etc. The guy gets work in spades. I really doubt that Joe Rogan is sore that he's not some venerated stand-up guy.

gilgigamesh: beta_plus: How is this quote germane at all to accusations that Mencia stole jokes (he probably did but his accusers acted like idiots and really hurt their case)?

He definitely did that, he admitted it, and more. Like when he was at the top of the comedy world, he admitted to going to comedy clubs, asking to go on for a couple of minutes, and "bumping" the scheduled act by doing a whole set; simply out of jealousy and basically pissing on his turf.

If you haven't heard it, I highly, highly recommend Marc Maron's podcast interview with him (there are two; this should be the second one which is the one to listen to). I think you have to pay a nominal subscription to hear that particular interview since it is in the archives, but its worth it.

Maron somehow brings out honest answers in comedians he interviews. He basically gets Mencia to admit to the joke theft allegations, and all the other bad shiat he's done to fellow comedians, and to talk about the deep insecurities that caused it all.

Facinating stuff.

He was also on Adam Carolla's podcast the other day. Adam did a good job on the interview, and I appreciated the way that he stayed away from the blatant "So, everyone says your a hack" line of questions. It would have been boring and awkward. Though, I did feel at times that Carlos was just doing material against Adam's stories.

yelmrog: mrtoadswildride: I used to like Joe Rogan, but his crusade against (perceived) jokes thieves comes across as a whiny rant form a guy who never quite made it.

By "made it" do you mean made it to the top of stand-up comedy? I realize he's a mediocre stand-up comic at best, but he's definitely "made it" in the showbiz sense.

He still can get stand-up gigs, he's had a steady gig as a UFC color guy for years, hosts Fear Factor, etc. The guy gets work in spades. I really doubt that Joe Rogan is sore that he's not some venerated stand-up guy.

Let me elaborate...I didn't intend to make it sound like Rogan was a failure. He's got plenty of money and work.

By "never quite made it" I meant as a world famous comedian. As in, being a headlining act able to sell out areas around the world. I think it kills him that guys like Jeff Dunham, Dane cook, and Larry the cable guy can sell out these 20-30,000 seat venues around the world, have multiple specials on tv, and have made million from comedy...but that most people know him as the guy from fear factor.

/If you've ever heard him talk about comedy, he takes great pride in the "art" of creating, forming, perfecting, and delivering a joke..
//So yes, I think the comedic success of some of these "lesser comedians" annoys him.

carmody: I don't care about him being a joke thief. I just think he's the absolute opposite of funny. Yelling is not comedy. Telling a racist joke, then calling the listener racist for not laughing at it, is not funny. "Retard voice" is not funny. Does this bucket of vomit have compromising photos of someone over at Comedy Central or something? He makes George Lopez look like George Carlin, for fark's sake.

Thou hast slain me.
Almost Fergie-d.

scottydoesntknow: Joe Rogan used to annoy me. Then I found out he's a stoner (and open about it). Then I found out he actually knows how to fight (making him a good UFC commentator). Then I also found out he HATES Ned and calls him out whenever he can.

Rogan doesn't annoy me anymore.

QFT
IMHO
LMNOP

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mexicans are not funny.

I thought he was originally Italian.

rocinante721: puckrock2000: some of his claims are a bit out there though.....like on adam carolla, he was talking about how Orcas are super advanced, and he claimed that prior to WWII, orcas in the pacitfic northwest would kill like, X number of humans every year. Then, once WWII started, US fighter pilots began doing target practice on orcas. and then the death rate completely stopped. He then infers that the orcas got together, and using their amazing orca ESP, agreed amongst themselves, "hey, these humans, they have superior firepower, they must be pissed at us, from now on, NO MORE EATING HUMANS." now, he could be right, but....it's the kind of extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof.

Wiki - "There have been very few confirmed attacks on humans by wild killer whales, none of which has been fatal."

He's actually admitted he was chatting up something that later turned out to be false.

He's spent too much time in the sensory deprivation tank.

fark Ned Holness. Watching Joe Rogan punk him live on stage at his own comedy show was one of the greatest things ever.

ps if you've never seen Joe Rogan's standup, I highly recommend you check it out. He's done 2 specials (that I know of). I used to think he was annoying too until I saw both of his acts and started listening to his podcast. Really, REALLY funny dude with a lot of interesting things to say.