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Hobodeluxe
2011-11-30 12:08:53 PM
of course it's safer than alcohol.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 12:13:30 PM
Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.
 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 12:34:35 PM
Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.
 
Blues_X [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 12:39:22 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

I think it's more of the "fark it, let's not leave the house" effect.
 
SoCalSurfer
2011-11-30 12:51:18 PM
Blues_X: ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

I think it's more of the "fark it, let's not leave the house order dominos" effect.
 
Eddie Adams from Torrance [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 12:57:14 PM
Can anyone explain to me why the fark Marijuana is still illegal?

The study also found that medical- marijuana legalization is associated with a drop in beer sales.

Oh.. nevermind.
 
gilgigamesh [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:08:25 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

A little from column A, a little from column B.

So I've heard.
 
PreMortem [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:32:16 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can anyone explain to me why the fark Marijuana is still illegal?

The study also found that medical- marijuana legalization is associated with a drop in beer sales.

Oh.. nevermind.

There should be a section (swath?) of OWS relating to this. What blatant corporate influence b.s.
"If you legalaize it, we lose money. Here, let me explain it in campaign contributions."
 
ultraholland
2011-11-30 01:34:56 PM
and how do you patriotic citizens justify this 12% drop in morticians' business?
 
Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired
2011-11-30 01:35:09 PM
Weed > booze

I only drink when I can't get weed.
 
abfalter
2011-11-30 01:36:31 PM
It's only a matter of time before it is legal.

I really have no interest in it. I barely drink alcohol either. But, like alcohol, they could tax the bejeezus out of this and generate a lot of tax revenue.
 
kapaso
2011-11-30 01:36:39 PM
ultraholland: and how do you patriotic citizens justify this 12% drop in morticians' business?

It is the work of the devil, keeping souls from God.
 
tukatz [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:37:03 PM
Results are skewed. Its hard to get out and drive when you can't imagine getting off the couch.
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:38:25 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

Know how to tell the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned one?

Drunk drivers run red lights.
Stoned drivers stop at green ones.
 
BurnShrike
2011-11-30 01:38:27 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

I don't get paranoia, so I think it has to do with the mellow. It also changes your sense of time passing, so I think it makes you "okay" with the fact that you're not rushing about as quickly.
 
sheilanagig [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:39:08 PM
tukatz: Results are skewed. Its hard to get out and drive when you can't imagine getting off the couch.

Hah! The next time you see someone stopping at the light no matter what color it is, it's a pretty good guess that person is driving stoned.
 
psycho_something
2011-11-30 01:40:19 PM
It may make you drive too slow... I had a bad habit of stopping at green lights when I got stoned...

It's a light!... STOP!
 
PreMortem [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:40:49 PM
Don't forget taking cash out of Gov't coffers from DUI arrests and possession charges.

Those truckloads of pepper spray aren't going to pay for themselves.
 
psycho_something
2011-11-30 01:42:24 PM
sheilanagig: tukatz: Results are skewed. Its hard to get out and drive when you can't imagine getting off the couch.

Hah! The next time you see someone stopping at the light no matter what color it is, it's a pretty good guess that person is driving stoned.

see... told you
 
NorCalLos
2011-11-30 01:43:19 PM
abfalter: It's only a matter of time before it is legal.

I really have no interest in it. I barely drink alcohol either. But, like alcohol, they could tax the bejeezus out of this and generate a lot of tax revenue.

Or at least bring it into the legitimate economy so drug dealers no longer have what is effectively a blanket exemption from income tax and sales tax.
 
gilgigamesh [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:43:21 PM
scottydoesntknow: Know how to tell the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned one?

Drunk drivers run red lights.
Stoned drivers stop at green ones.

So true.

When I was in college, a buddy of mine absolutely hated driving with me because he is a leadfoot and I would drive like an 80 year old woman when high. On the interstate I would gradually and unknowingly slow down until I was going 25 miles under the speed limit. At intersections with no traffic control, or with a stop sign, I would stop and wait for the nonexistent signal to change. Ultimately he decided to stop yelling at me about it and would wait for me to come down from outer space. When I did, he would be seething.

He's kind of an uptight stoner, now that I think about it.
 
watson.t.hamster
2011-11-30 01:43:25 PM
ultraholland: and how do you patriotic citizens justify this 12% drop in morticians' business?

I'm pretty sure they'll get you eventually.

It's not a choice between fatal car crash or immortality.
 
Why Would I Read the Article
2011-11-30 01:43:50 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can anyone explain to me why the fark Marijuana is still illegal?

Because the prison guards union gives a lot of money to Democrats.
 
gilgigamesh [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:44:38 PM
Wow, reading this thread I am happy to see it wasn't just me.
 
rageaholic
2011-11-30 01:44:41 PM
So if we legalize drunk driving we'll finally stop the scourge that is medical marijuana? It's just madd enough to work!
 
macadamnut
2011-11-30 01:47:18 PM
i512.photobucket.com
 
TrainingWheelsNeeded
2011-11-30 01:49:25 PM
Anyone see the Discovery show Curiosity: Your Body on Drugs? The show took four drug users, a coke head, a meth head, a pot head and a junkie through a series of tests to see how each drug affected their ability to perform these certain tasks. The stoned guy was so harmless it was hilarious watching the writers come up with negative and harmful attributes for his performance and behavior. Spoiler alert: he drove very slowly.

It was pretty obvious marijuana was not nearly as dangerous as these other drugs with same or lower schedule.
 
scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:50:58 PM
gilgigamesh: scottydoesntknow: Know how to tell the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned one?

Drunk drivers run red lights.
Stoned drivers stop at green ones.

So true.

When I was in college, a buddy of mine absolutely hated driving with me because he is a leadfoot and I would drive like an 80 year old woman when high. On the interstate I would gradually and unknowingly slow down until I was going 25 miles under the speed limit. At intersections with no traffic control, or with a stop sign, I would stop and wait for the nonexistent signal to change. Ultimately he decided to stop yelling at me about it and would wait for me to come down from outer space. When I did, he would be seething.

He's kind of an uptight stoner, now that I think about it.

Hahahaha me too man me too. Used to have to be the one making the 7-11 run. Exact same route every time (1 light and two intersections, but only 1 stop sign). Couldn't tell you how many times I either stopped at the intersection with no sign, stopped at a green, or waited for the actual STOP sign to turn green.

/I know, it's stupid to drive impaired either way
//I would rather have 10 stoned drivers than 1 drunk on the road though
 
Rip Dashrock
2011-11-30 01:51:25 PM
Waiting for the "revised" report showing a 12% increase.
Remember kids, mj is evil.
 
misanthropic1
2011-11-30 01:53:34 PM
SoCalSurfer: Blues_X: ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

I think it's more of the "fark it, let's not leave the house order dominos" effect.

Gotta avoid the noid.

/drug references, in my advertising?
 
JackieRabbit
2011-11-30 01:53:42 PM
FTFA: "We were pretty surprised that they went down," Rees said Tuesday.

Obviously, they've never tried to drive stoned. I have and found myself driving very slowly and carefully. As a friend of mine once said, "Pot is an old man's drug. It slows everything down."

A stoned driver is nowhere near the menace of a drunk driver.
 
FirstNationalBastard [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:54:02 PM
TrainingWheelsNeeded: Anyone see the Discovery show Curiosity: Your Body on Drugs? The show took four drug users, a coke head, a meth head, a pot head and a junkie through a series of tests to see how each drug affected their ability to perform these certain tasks. The stoned guy was so harmless it was hilarious watching the writers come up with negative and harmful attributes for his performance and behavior. Spoiler alert: he drove very slowly.

It was pretty obvious marijuana was not nearly as dangerous as these other drugs with same or lower schedule.

Yes, but it could make brown men ravage our precious white wimmin and listen to Jazz music! Haven't you ever seen the movie Reefer Madness?

Also, TAXES! DEVIL'S WEED! BLAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! SCARY! OOOOOOOOOOO!
 
BurnShrike
2011-11-30 01:54:53 PM
JackieRabbit: As a friend of mine once said, "Pot is an old man's drug. It slows everything down."

Get off my lawn grass!
 
TrainingWheelsNeeded
2011-11-30 01:55:48 PM
Seems like an appropriate thread. Please contact your Representative and Lamar Smith about scheduling a hearing for HR 2306 currently in legislation, ending prohibition of marijuana. Lamar Smith, Chairperson of House Judiciary Committee is stonewalling bill.

It takes just a second, follow links through any pro compassionate care org or norml.
 
victrin [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:56:23 PM
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
 
HamWBone
2011-11-30 01:56:58 PM
TrainingWheelsNeeded: Anyone see the Discovery show Curiosity: Your Body on Drugs? The show took four drug users, a coke head, a meth head, a pot head and a junkie through a series of tests to see how each drug affected their ability to perform these certain tasks. The stoned guy was so harmless it was hilarious watching the writers come up with negative and harmful attributes for his performance and behavior. Spoiler alert: he drove very slowly.

It was pretty obvious marijuana was not nearly as dangerous as these other drugs with same or lower schedule.

haha i saw that. That guy was lit up, the doctor spouted off some mumbo jumbo to the dude and he just said, "uh heh, i think that's the name of a Moody Blues song."
 
homarjr
2011-11-30 01:58:25 PM
To legalize it means to tax it, but it's not really that simple. You can't just tax it at 40000% because the black market will still be cheaper, and in all likelihood, better. If I can buy a gram from 7/11 for $20 as opposed to going to a dealer and getting it for $10-15......it's possible I'd pay that much to avoid any hassle, but I'd still be on the fence.

This has to happen for some time though to eventually eliminate the black market dealers. Key word being "eventually". I'm guessing as soon as prohibition was over, the beer barons were still making a killing for a few years.
 
NorCalLos
2011-11-30 01:58:36 PM
TrainingWheelsNeeded: Anyone see the Discovery show Curiosity: Your Body on Drugs? The show took four drug users, a coke head, a meth head, a pot head and a junkie through a series of tests to see how each drug affected their ability to perform these certain tasks. The stoned guy was so harmless it was hilarious watching the writers come up with negative and harmful attributes for his performance and behavior. Spoiler alert: he drove very slowly.

It was pretty obvious marijuana was not nearly as dangerous as these other drugs with same or lower schedule.

I saw another show about theweed that showed what happens to your body on it. I think the biggest biological things were that it makes your heart race and your blood pressure skyrocket.
 
sheilanagig [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 01:58:53 PM
FirstNationalBastard: Yes, but it could make brown men ravage our precious white wimmin and listen to Jazz music! Haven't you ever seen the movie Reefer Madness?

Also, TAXES! DEVIL'S WEED! BLAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! SCARY! OOOOOOOOOOO!

Go take that noise to the Herman Cain thread.

Carl Sagan was a stoner. Actually, there are a number of people who outperform the rest of us stoned out of their gourds. I think there was an Olympic swimmer too, and what's his name that won the Tour de France. Maybe it should be scheduled as a performance-enhancing drug, because it doesn't seem to be impairing anything important.

That is, except when you try to take brownies out of the oven without a mitt.
 
david_gaithersburg
2011-11-30 01:59:23 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can anyone explain to me why the fark Marijuana is still illegal?




Because you can't tax something that can grown as easily as dust bunnies. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would purchase it from a store.
 
NorCalLos
2011-11-30 02:01:21 PM
homarjr: To legalize it means to tax it, but it's not really that simple. You can't just tax it at 40000% because the black market will still be cheaper, and in all likelihood, better. If I can buy a gram from 7/11 for $20 as opposed to going to a dealer and getting it for $10-15......it's possible I'd pay that much to avoid any hassle, but I'd still be on the fence.

This has to happen for some time though to eventually eliminate the black market dealers. Key word being "eventually". I'm guessing as soon as prohibition was over, the beer barons were still making a killing for a few years.

We have a couple advantages now: 1) Technology and 2) Infrastructure that was created for cigarette taxation.
 
Odd Bird
2011-11-30 02:01:38 PM
Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Weed > booze

I only drink when I can't get weed.

A weakened immune system could, could, be why you're sick and tired.

/it can also lead to acne breakouts
//don't know if this is due to the weed or the influx of greasy, salty, tasty snacks.
///mmmmm....Cheetos
 
ows
2011-11-30 02:02:16 PM
dude, where's my car keys ....man...
 
Baloo Uriza
2011-11-30 02:02:25 PM
sheilanagig: tukatz: Results are skewed. Its hard to get out and drive when you can't imagine getting off the couch.

Hah! The next time you see someone stopping at the light no matter what color it is, it's a pretty good guess that person is driving stoned.

Or in Oregon. Portlanders ignore traffic signals. In the last year, a day not having to slam the brake pedal to the floor to avoid t-boning someone blasting through the intersection against the red, has been a day in Oklahoma.
 
darkscout
2011-11-30 02:02:41 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Marcus Aurelius: Pot makes you drive slow. This is hardly news.

Is it the paranoia, or the mellow? I've always wondered how I would drive while on weed.

Old joke:
Drunk drivers run stop signs.
High drivers wait for them to turn green.

I have chronic knee pain. Too many knee surgeries.

I've tried pot a few times. Makes the knee not hurt. Makes me feel happy. Makes me a criminal. Worst that's happened is ate my roommates Ramen.

When it gets unbearable I grab a drink. It does make it stop hurting. Worst that's happened: too many to list here.
 
TrainingWheelsNeeded
2011-11-30 02:02:44 PM
HamWBone: TrainingWheelsNeeded: Anyone see the Discovery show Curiosity: Your Body on Drugs? The show took four drug users, a coke head, a meth head, a pot head and a junkie through a series of tests to see how each drug affected their ability to perform these certain tasks. The stoned guy was so harmless it was hilarious watching the writers come up with negative and harmful attributes for his performance and behavior. Spoiler alert: he drove very slowly.

It was pretty obvious marijuana was not nearly as dangerous as these other drugs with same or lower schedule.

haha i saw that. That guy was lit up, the doctor spouted off some mumbo jumbo to the dude and he just said, "uh heh, i think that's the name of a Moody Blues song."

that was pretty funny
 
JackieRabbit
2011-11-30 02:03:24 PM
victrin: Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

Ooooh, you'd better be careful. Speaking latin is liberal.
 
Some Beer Snob
2011-11-30 02:04:07 PM
david_gaithersburg: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can anyone explain to me why the fark Marijuana is still illegal?

Because you can't tax something that can grown as easily as dust bunnies. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would purchase it from a store.

I don't know if I agree with that. Sure, you could grow it on your own, but you need a fair amount of equipment to grow a good and consistent strain. Quality does factor in after a point.

...so I've heard.

/The same argument could be made about beer
//Heard of home brewing?
 
darkscout
2011-11-30 02:04:24 PM
david_gaithersburg: Because you can't tax something that can grown as easily as dust bunnies. Only the stupidest of the stupidest would purchase it from a store.

Exactly. See also Garlic, Onions, Potatoes, Pumpkins, and about any herb/spice. on you can buy in the store. I NEVER buy them in the store because they just grow everywhere. Hell my back yard is full of chives. Wait. I have a 40 hour a week job and a family.

Why the hell am I playing in the dirt when I make 50k+ a year? You bet your ass I buy it in a store.
 
david_gaithersburg
2011-11-30 02:04:39 PM
JackieRabbit: victrin: Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

Ooooh, you'd better be careful. Speaking latin is liberal.

Like Roman Catholic liberal?
 
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