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2011-11-30 01:28:47 PM
Roll Tide!
 
2011-11-30 01:31:20 PM
War Eagle!
 
2011-11-30 01:42:31 PM
Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt
 
2011-11-30 01:47:39 PM
You know, I can understand the whole concept of having a ranking system... but then why abandon it when awarding BCS bowl bids? Why not have 10 play 9, 8 play 7.... etc.... 2 play 1 in the 5 major bowls?
 
2011-11-30 01:51:11 PM
NuttierThanEver: Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt

Why you wanna insult The King like that?
www.therealstevegray.com
 
2011-11-30 02:09:31 PM
ou.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com
 
2011-11-30 02:14:44 PM
Yeah, sure, the Sugar Bowl, which will have the first pick out of (estimating new rankings) #4 Stanford, #6 Houston, #7 Boise State, #10 Kansas State, #13 Oklahoma, #14 Michigan, #16 TCU, or #22 West Virginia... is going to pick Michigan. Not bloody likely. They're going to take Stanford.
Yes, then the Fiesta Bowl will take Michigan to play Oklahoma State, but there's no way in hell Michigan (nor Houston) is the first pick.

My prediction: If OK State moves up to #2 somehow, the Fiesta Bowl drafts Stanford and Kansas State, so as to preserve a Big 12 team.
 
2011-11-30 03:10:25 PM
Ok State has to get past big brother first.
 
2011-11-30 03:52:53 PM
why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.
 
2011-11-30 03:57:37 PM
thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Not to be flippant but you must not be paying attention
Just look at the way the BCS has hosed Boise State all these years or any other school that does not "travel" well. The BCS is a joke and are only after the filthy lucre. I would prefer they just admit that they are going to ask the "marquee" teams to be in bowls and quit acting like the system has any shred of legitimacy.
 
2011-11-30 04:02:47 PM
NuttierThanEver: thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Not to be flippant but you must not be paying attention
Just look at the way the BCS has hosed Boise State all these years or any other school that does not "travel" well. The BCS is a joke and are only after the filthy lucre. I would prefer they just admit that they are going to ask the "marquee" teams to be in bowls and quit acting like the system has any shred of legitimacy.


right but there's a difference between just hosing non-bcs schools and filling in teams from assigned bowl spots (e.g. capital one bowl's big ten #2 team). i guess i was assuming there was a set system for filling those assigned spots but i'm sure it's just that the captial one bowl has the second pick of big ten schools and picks the one that travels best.
 
2011-11-30 04:17:44 PM
No farking way Okie State beats Oklahoma.

And I think Michigan State beats Wisconsin again.

And lastly, Michigan is way too far down the rankings to get in.
 
2011-11-30 04:30:41 PM
Michigan in the Sugar?

Nope. Chuck Testa.

/And no BCS Championship Game rematch!
//The battle of two Virginias would be hilarious, though.
 
2011-11-30 04:32:40 PM
NuttierThanEver: Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt

With the size of their fan base, yes they do. We care a lot about which teams will bring the most people willing to throw money around (I live in New Orleans), and if you bring a shiatload of people, the likelihood of that happening rises.
 
2011-11-30 04:34:02 PM
As much as I'd like State to play in Charlotte (and I might actually go see it), there is no way they don't take the Tar Holes.

/crappy football state problems
 
2011-11-30 04:37:21 PM
fireside68: NuttierThanEver: Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt

With the size of their fan base, yes they do. We care a lot about which teams will bring the most people willing to throw money around (I live in New Orleans), and if you bring a shiatload of people, the likelihood of that happening rises.


Then admit that fact and go back to the old system instead of keeping up the false pretense that the BCS exists to find a legitimate national champion.
 
2011-11-30 04:39:48 PM
Who knew Illinois was in C-USA?
 
2011-11-30 04:41:02 PM
I guess these folks think the NCAA will give UCLA a waiver as projecting Oregon in the Rose Bowl means UCLA goes 6-7, as discussed in that earlier thread.
 
2011-11-30 04:45:40 PM
beerrun: Who knew Illinois was in C-USA?

I guess C-USA didn't have enough eligible teams to meet their commitments.

Illinois: Good enough to replace the 6th best Conference USA team. Not quite the legacy Ron Zook wanted to leave, I'm sure.
 
2011-11-30 04:48:58 PM
thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Might have something to do with the fact Nebraska beat Michigan State?
 
2011-11-30 04:50:49 PM
I was hoping FSU would be in the Champs sports bowl in Orlando since I'd be back home for Christmas anyways, I'd be going to the game.

Don't mind the new years eve bowls. The party just starts earlier that night.
 
2011-11-30 04:51:22 PM
Intelligent_Donkey: thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Might have something to do with the fact Nebraska beat Michigan State?


maybe, but if that's the case it would only come into play if they had the same record, which indicates that they would count state's presumed loss in the championship game against them.
 
2011-11-30 04:51:29 PM
RminusQ: Yeah, sure, the Sugar Bowl, which will have the first pick out of (estimating new rankings) #4 Stanford, #6 Houston, #7 Boise State, #10 Kansas State, #13 Oklahoma, #14 Michigan, #16 TCU, or #22 West Virginia... is going to pick Michigan. Not bloody likely. They're going to take Stanford.
Yes, then the Fiesta Bowl will take Michigan to play Oklahoma State, but there's no way in hell Michigan (nor Houston) is the first pick.

My prediction: If OK State moves up to #2 somehow, the Fiesta Bowl drafts Stanford and Kansas State, so as to preserve a Big 12 team.



No one agrees with you. ESPN, Yahoo, Rivals, etc. all say Michigan vs. Houston. As a Michigan alum/fan I am excited, as a rational human being I don't really understand it.
 
2011-11-30 04:52:30 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-30 04:56:09 PM
I like these predictions... I'd like to see Baylor play the Alamo Bowl. Because they sure as hell aren't going to sell their allotment of tickets if it's out of state.
 
2011-11-30 04:59:55 PM
4NSpy: [i.imgur.com image 251x201]

Beautiful.
 
2011-11-30 05:03:03 PM
thomps: maybe, but if that's the case it would only come into play if they had the same record, which indicates that they would count state's presumed loss in the championship game against them.

Seems like that's what they're doing. Might not be fair, but I'm a Husker fan so I won't complain too much.

/only slightly biased.
 
2011-11-30 05:03:12 PM
NuttierThanEver: fireside68: NuttierThanEver: Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt

With the size of their fan base, yes they do. We care a lot about which teams will bring the most people willing to throw money around (I live in New Orleans), and if you bring a shiatload of people, the likelihood of that happening rises.

Then admit that fact and go back to the old system instead of keeping up the false pretense that the BCS exists to find a legitimate national champion.


I am pretty sure that fact was admitted by how Ohio State wad encouraged to appeal smthose suspensions and play the game wit the affected players.

Anyway, I am talking about the city's residents, not anyone official.
 
2011-11-30 05:03:33 PM
You're the jerk... jerk: RminusQ: Yeah, sure, the Sugar Bowl, which will have the first pick out of (estimating new rankings) #4 Stanford, #6 Houston, #7 Boise State, #10 Kansas State, #13 Oklahoma, #14 Michigan, #16 TCU, or #22 West Virginia... is going to pick Michigan. Not bloody likely. They're going to take Stanford.
Yes, then the Fiesta Bowl will take Michigan to play Oklahoma State, but there's no way in hell Michigan (nor Houston) is the first pick.

My prediction: If OK State moves up to #2 somehow, the Fiesta Bowl drafts Stanford and Kansas State, so as to preserve a Big 12 team.


No one agrees with you. ESPN, Yahoo, Rivals, etc. all say Michigan vs. Houston. As a Michigan alum/fan I am excited, as a rational human being I don't really understand it.


It probably has something to do with after the automatics are taken care of, the bowls can take anyone they want, so they take whoever has the most fans. More money that way.
 
2011-11-30 05:03:50 PM
UM travels better than any other of this year's at large teams. End of story.

I think UM v Stanford and OSU v Houston would be better games, but whatever.

Over/Under on the UH v UM game is gonna start at 100. Terrible pass defenses.
 
2011-11-30 05:03:52 PM
Dear lord my phone sucks at this
 
2011-11-30 05:04:26 PM
Smeggy Smurf: 4NSpy: [i.imgur.com image 251x201]

Beautiful.


Though that is funny, Boise in the Las Vegas Bowl has me chewing my cud. Surely they've earned better than that.
 
2011-11-30 05:04:52 PM
Here you go Buckeye fans, an early X-mas gift for you.

i51.tinypic.com

Subby can take two.
 
2011-11-30 05:06:51 PM
Intelligent_Donkey: thomps: maybe, but if that's the case it would only come into play if they had the same record, which indicates that they would count state's presumed loss in the championship game against them.

Seems like that's what they're doing. Might not be fair, but I'm a Husker fan so I won't complain too much.

/only slightly biased.


i'm a husker fan as well, that's really the only reason i even noticed it. i'm not going to begin to pretend that the bowl committees use reasonable logic, i just don't think a team should be punished at all for participating in the conference championship game. same argument goes for LSU and alabama - bama gets to cruise into the title game while LSU has to play into it.
 
2011-11-30 05:09:15 PM
thomps: Intelligent_Donkey: thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Might have something to do with the fact Nebraska beat Michigan State?

maybe, but if that's the case it would only come into play if they had the same record, which indicates that they would count state's presumed loss in the championship game against them.


The Big Ten bowl selection criteria says that the loser of the championship game cannot be selected later than fourth after the BCS bowl selections. They also say that, for the Capital One and Outback Bowls, a team cannot be selected if there is another team available that has two or more wins/two or fewer losses than that team. Beyond that, the bowls simply have a priority order and can select whatever teams they want. That's why Nebraska can be picked ahead of Michigan State even though Michigan State has one more win than them.
 
2011-11-30 05:15:43 PM
RminusQ: Yeah, sure, the Sugar Bowl, which will have the first pick out of (estimating new rankings) #4 Stanford, #6 Houston, #7 Boise State, #10 Kansas State, #13 Oklahoma, #14 Michigan, #16 TCU, or #22 West Virginia... is going to pick Michigan. Not bloody likely. They're going to take Stanford.

They'd be stupid to take Stanford. Given those choices, they'd take Oklahoma or Michigan, because of the traveling fanbases.

By the way, good luck, Orange Bowl, with WVU and VT. Yuck.
 
2011-11-30 05:15:58 PM
"* An ampersand denotes a team that already has accepted a bid. "

...and that's why we decided to show you an asterik.
 
2011-11-30 05:16:13 PM
I think that Alabama and LSU should not play.

Although, Alabama is the only contender to LSU, they've already played. I think that the championship game should be cross-conference. Historically, the SEC championship decides the best team in the nation. The bowl games should determine the best conference. (i.e. how many teams of one conference win)

/ So, although LSU v. Alabama would be the best BCS championship game, it would ruin that cross-conference comraderie.
 
2011-11-30 05:16:25 PM
Serious Black: thomps: Intelligent_Donkey: thomps: why does it list nebraska as big ten #2 and michigan state as big ten #3? kind of sh*tty to punish a team for losing in the conference championship game.

Might have something to do with the fact Nebraska beat Michigan State?

maybe, but if that's the case it would only come into play if they had the same record, which indicates that they would count state's presumed loss in the championship game against them.

The Big Ten bowl selection criteria says that the loser of the championship game cannot be selected later than fourth after the BCS bowl selections. They also say that, for the Capital One and Outback Bowls, a team cannot be selected if there is another team available that has two or more wins/two or fewer losses than that team. Beyond that, the bowls simply have a priority order and can select whatever teams they want. That's why Nebraska can be picked ahead of Michigan State even though Michigan State has one more win than them.


makes sense, thanks
 
2011-11-30 05:16:55 PM
French Rage: "* An ampersand denotes a team that already has accepted a bid. "

...and that's why we decided to show you an asterik.


fark nevermind.
 
2011-11-30 05:24:47 PM
While fighting for a bowl berth, I kept telling myself (and others) that should we make it, I'd go to any game we ended up playing in as long as it was in TN or AL.

Now that I'm on a three-day sober run, I've concluded that I'd like to stay as far away from Memphis as possible, please. Thank you.
 
2011-11-30 05:26:40 PM
ticketcity bowl... what the hell is that?
 
2011-11-30 05:30:06 PM
Pratty: //The battle of two Virginias would be hilarious, though.

It's actually a dead rivalry from the Big East days and the SoCon days before that, so it would be nice. Then again, I'm one of those people who thinks all dead rivalries should be kept alive, especially interstate ones like Penn State - Pitt and Tulane - LSU.
 
2011-11-30 05:30:26 PM
Cheesus: As much as I'd like State to play in Charlotte (and I might actually go see it), there is no way they don't take the Tar Holes.

/crappy football state problems


Nah, UVA'll get picked, I don't think UNC is eligible for that one. NC State'll get it, unless Clemson gets bumped to the Champs, or something else weird happens like that.
 
2011-11-30 05:30:45 PM
I see that Ohio State gets to continue its perfect record against SEC teams.
 
2011-11-30 05:31:44 PM
p the boiler: ticketcity bowl... what the hell is that?

It is a "bowl game". It is what teams get as a reward for having a winning season ;)
 
2011-11-30 05:32:15 PM
fireside68: NuttierThanEver: Michigan deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl much the same way as Elvis deserved his Black Belt

With the size of their fan base, yes they do. We care a lot about which teams will bring the most people willing to throw money around (I live in New Orleans), and if you bring a shiatload of people, the likelihood of that happening rises.


NOLA farker here, and sure- I'm all for whatever helps our economy. However, as a sports fan I hate the arbitrary nature of the bowls.
 
2011-11-30 05:35:06 PM
rorypk: UM travels better than any other of this year's at large teams. End of story.

I think UM v Stanford and OSU v Houston would be better games, but whatever.

Over/Under on the UH v UM game is gonna start at 100. Terrible pass defenses.


The "best" part is that even after Houston destroys Michigan, everyone will still have the "yeah, but they haven't beaten anyone good" card. What a bunch of utter horseshiat.
 
2011-11-30 05:35:57 PM
Yanks_RSJ:
By the way, good luck, Orange Bowl, with WVU and VT. Yuck.


Indeed. I'm the worlds largest Hokie Hater, but I don't understand at all how WV gets to a BCS bowl ranked #22. Are they an auto-bid or something?
 
2011-11-30 05:36:11 PM
FriarReb98: It's actually a dead rivalry from the Big East days and the SoCon days before that, so it would be nice. Then again, I'm one of those people who thinks all dead rivalries should be kept alive, especially interstate ones like Penn State - Pitt and Tulane - LSU.

While obviously I am hoping for a better matchup than WVu, people at those 2 schools will enjoy the throwback. No one outside of VT or WVu fans will give a shiat, but meh.

Even though it isn't a possibility, I am also a huge proponent of having the Orange Bowl in Morgantown this year(assuming that is the matchup.) No one is going to go down to South Beach and chuck batteries, burn cars and mattresses, and generally contribute to the insanity that made the VT/WV games so much fun. If you weren't injured after being at the game, then you probably stayed in and watched it at home. Good times.
 
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