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(Daily Mail) Interesting Le Mans race car at the center of disaster that killed 84 is set to sell at auction after being hidden away the past 42 years   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 44
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2011-11-30 10:30:33 AM
Heads up!
 
2011-11-30 10:41:28 AM
lens-views.com


What this may have looked like.
 
2011-11-30 11:08:43 AM
 
2011-11-30 12:16:38 PM
Yeah, Mercedes has a history of that. . .

i213.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-30 12:38:54 PM
stvmcqueen.tripod.com

Wistfully recalls that tragic day...
 
2011-11-30 12:50:40 PM
Wow, a Le Mans trifecta in play?
 
2011-11-30 01:48:19 PM
It's definitely worth restoring. It has some beautiful lines.
 
2011-11-30 01:49:20 PM
best camera man ever.. pans away from the actual crash to follow the flying engine into the grandstands. i woulda done the same thing
 
2011-11-30 01:56:01 PM
I'm sensing a new hollywood horror movie...
 
2011-11-30 01:56:11 PM
That's killer.

/Rusty Shackleford Beautiful!!
 
2011-11-30 01:56:32 PM
www.jeremyclarkson.co.uk

"Tell you'll what; we'll have James May race it against the Stig driving a mini-Cooper that's on fire along with Hammond on a Ducati Desmosedici RR with half the bolts taken off each tire."
 
2011-11-30 02:01:12 PM
I will buy it and call it Christine.
 
M-G
2011-11-30 02:02:00 PM
TwistedIvory: Yeah, Mercedes has a history of that. . .

Bravo. Webber likes to do backflips.

There's a good show that BBC did on the '55 Le Mans race called "The Deadliest Crash." Worthwhile finding.
 
2011-11-30 02:03:06 PM
That's what happens when you use drum brakes on all four wheels and a magnesium frame. Good old German engineering right there, even 10 years later they find a way to cremate people against their will.

/Oh yeah, straight trollin'

But seriously, racing was unsafe as hell back then. They tried anything and everything to go faster, with little interest in handling and braking. Safety was a joke, the drivers didn't even wear seat belts because (get this) they actually thought it was better to be thrown from a wreck than to die in the inevitable fire that occurred.

The golden years? Only if you think that killing a third of your idols is a good thing.
 
2011-11-30 02:04:47 PM
dletter: The "MovieTone" version of the crash (new window)

Aaaand the ad before the movie played was the highlight!
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2011-11-30 02:09:59 PM
Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash.
 
2011-11-30 02:10:19 PM
Does it still have blood a charred human tissue on it?

If it doesn't it's worth a lot less.
 
2011-11-30 02:10:19 PM
Makes you wonder what happened to the Mercedes that did the actual slaughter.
 
2011-11-30 02:11:20 PM
This video has several different shots, slowed down so you can really see what happens. It looks like the chassis of the Mercedes barrel rolled over the crowd. Pretty horrifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEk85gKJN6kk
 
2011-11-30 02:15:37 PM
Satanic_Hamster: "Tell you'll what; we'll have James May race it against the Stig driving a mini-Cooper that's on fire along with Hammond on a Ducati Desmosedici RR with half the bolts taken off each tire."

I'd watch that.
 
2011-11-30 02:16:24 PM
I remember reading about that crash when I was a kid. The Mercedes had an engine made of magnesium that detonated like a bomb in the crowd. One line in that book is burned into my memory "little kids that had been decapitated but still holding their ice-cream cones"
 
2011-11-30 02:18:07 PM
They finished the race after that? Very different times.
 
2011-11-30 02:18:35 PM
Plexo: One line in that book is burned into my memory "little kids that had been decapitated but still holding their ice-cream cones"

That's German precision for you...
 
2011-11-30 02:19:32 PM
ROBO-Jesus: This video has several different shots, slowed down so you can really see what happens. It looks like the chassis of the Mercedes barrel rolled over the crowd. Pretty horrifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEk85gKJN6kk


I'm not sure that's the crowd its rolling over... but the projectile is the engine, which I believe killed most of the victims.
 
2011-11-30 02:21:55 PM
Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Well, no NASCAR crash has killed anyone in the crowd (I don't believe)... but they've continued every race after a driver has been killed. Not 100% sure on all incidents, but I'm well aware of a Watkins Glen crash that killed a driver. Yellow flag for a few laps, and back to driving. In fact, everyone including the drivers eventually knew what happened during the race.
 
2011-11-30 02:23:16 PM
onyxruby: Makes you wonder what happened to the Mercedes that did the actual slaughter.

There's nothing to wonder about. The block broke free and plowed through the crowd, the hood flew off and cut a swath, and the frame ignited and burned for hours because they couldn't put out a magnesium fire. In fact, they made it worse by trying to use water. Levegh was thrown from the car and killed on impact with a crushed skull.
 
2011-11-30 02:25:24 PM
Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

NOT finishing the race is the rarity. The abandoning of the race after Dan Wheldon died was the first time I can ever remember it happening.
 
2011-11-30 02:40:52 PM
downstairs: Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Well, no NASCAR crash has killed anyone in the crowd (I don't believe)... but they've continued every race after a driver has been killed. Not 100% sure on all incidents, but I'm well aware of a Watkins Glen crash that killed a driver. Yellow flag for a few laps, and back to driving. In fact, everyone including the drivers eventually knew what happened during the race.


Hahaha, oh no... There have been many spectator deaths at NASCAR events, about 20 I think.

I'd say that Rally has to hold the crown when it comes to spectator deaths. I have yet to be flying around a roadcourse and see fans standing on the candy stripes when I'm going for an apex.
 
2011-11-30 03:20:21 PM
moike:
I'd say that Rally has to hold the crown when it comes to spectator deaths. I have yet to be flying around a roadcourse and see fans standing on the candy stripes when I'm going for an apex.


That's part of why I prefer touring cars to rally racing. I just can't watch people standing in the racing line while the car comes barreling towards them at 80 mph. on gravel.



They finished the Italian Grand Prix after Senna died, and finished the 1982 Canadian Grand Prix after a fatal crash on the start line. They started the races after Ratzenberger and Villeneuve died in qualifying. 1960 Belgian Grand Prix claimed 2 drivers during the race, and one accident during qualifying was still touch and go for the driver, and it was finished. There have been very few top-tier races that were stopped because of a deadly crash. True, 1955 Le Mans involved more than just drivers or officials, but that's happened a few times after 1955 as well.
 
2011-11-30 03:42:06 PM
moike: Hahaha, oh no... There have been many spectator deaths at NASCAR events, about 20 I think.

Ok, I didn't know that. None too recently though?

I've only been following since 2005... but I do enjoy reading about its history. Guess that part escaped me.
 
2011-11-30 04:00:03 PM
downstairs: moike: Hahaha, oh no... There have been many spectator deaths at NASCAR events, about 20 I think.

Ok, I didn't know that. None too recently though?

I've only been following since 2005... but I do enjoy reading about its history. Guess that part escaped me.


Check it out, interesting read... (new window)
 
2011-11-30 04:00:11 PM
downstairs Ok, I didn't know that. None too recently though? I've only been following since 2005... but I do enjoy reading about its history. Guess that part escaped me.

Meh, read up on the vintage board track racing-back then AAA was the governing body, pure bloodbaths-the first Indy 500 was a Roman Chariot race now
 
2011-11-30 04:07:03 PM
cgraves67: It's definitely worth restoring. It has some beautiful lines.

Pfft, are you kidding?

Could you even imagine how much it would cost to put the steering on the correct side?
 
2011-11-30 04:35:27 PM
ROBO-Jesus: This video has several different shots, slowed down so you can really see what happens. It looks like the chassis of the Mercedes barrel rolled over the crowd. Pretty horrifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEk85gKJN6kk


The head on shot ending with a melted frame is especially chilling.
 
2011-11-30 04:39:45 PM
Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Mercedes pulled it's other cars out of the race and subsequently withdrew from racing for the next 25 years.
 
2011-11-30 04:46:15 PM
pete1729: Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Mercedes pulled it's other cars out of the race and subsequently withdrew from racing for the next 25 years.


As did Jaguar.
 
2011-11-30 05:20:14 PM
Mishno: pete1729: Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Mercedes pulled it's other cars out of the race and subsequently withdrew from racing for the next 25 years.

As did Jaguar.


Admittedly, the Jaguar was leaking oil and withdrew because it needed maintenance.
 
2011-11-30 05:39:15 PM
This text is now purple: Mishno: pete1729: Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

Mercedes pulled it's other cars out of the race and subsequently withdrew from racing for the next 25 years.

As did Jaguar.

Admittedly, the Jaguar was leaking oil and withdrew because it needed maintenance.


And it took 25 years for the parts to ship...
 
2011-11-30 06:34:45 PM
You can see the driver fly through the air and land on the wall, then flop to the roadway and bounce. Check the 1:10 mark around the "VE" in "VEEDOL" sign on the wall.
 
2011-11-30 06:58:19 PM
The co-driver of the Mercedes, John Fitch ,is still kicking at 94. He went on to invent many safety devices still used in racing, like the crash walls at Nascar races, I believe. I have a Corvair he built back in 1965. I guess I better get on the ball if I want to send him a pic. of it to sign..
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/not mine, but just like it
 
2011-11-30 10:09:12 PM
In situations like this there is a very good reason to keep the race going. If you stop the race all the remaining spectators leave. The resulting traffic makes it very difficult to get the wounded out.
 
2011-11-30 11:21:13 PM
Ya know i wonder if it's haunted
 
2011-12-01 03:49:34 AM
Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

No, they'd finish the race today as well.

The main reason is that they don't want the 500.000 spectators to leave, clogging up the roads when there's a need for ambulances.
 
2011-12-01 10:23:50 AM
spawn73: Pumpernickel bread: They finished the race after that? Very different times.

No, they'd finish the race today as well.

The main reason is that they don't want the 500.000 spectators to leave, clogging up the roads when there's a need for ambulances.


I don't buy that.... what if an accident like that happened on the final lap? Then what do you do, the race is over? No matter when it happened, you can stop the race and tell everyone "Please nobody leave the facility yet, we need emergency vehicles to have access to the entrance ways".
 
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