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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 08:38:27 AM
That explains the worried squirrel looking at me through the window. Seriously, there's a squirrel looking at me right now. I think he wants a walnut.
 
2011-11-30 09:28:37 AM
The inability of plant species to propagate out of inhospitable zones due to the rapidity of the climate shift, rather than the fact of the climate shift, is one of the major problems that we are most likely to notice within our lifetimes. If the rise in temperature occurred over the course of a few hundred years, it would be one thing, but forcing the change over just a few decades will decimate some populations.
 
2011-11-30 09:37:50 AM
good. I want my neighbors Walnut tree to DIAF
 
2011-11-30 09:42:13 AM
I don't really care for walnuts anyway. Now, if peanuts or cashews are endangered, spare no expense to fix this!
 
2011-11-30 09:45:41 AM
I guess if the Strickland walnut farm goes under, Melissa and family will have to find another way to make a living and keep Lucinda from meathooking more deputies.
 
2011-11-30 09:45:50 AM
What will I throw at the neighbor kids now?
 
2011-11-30 09:50:48 AM
Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.
 
2011-11-30 09:54:16 AM
Cincinnati Kid: I don't really care for walnuts anyway. Now, if peanuts or cashews are endangered, spare no expense to fix this!

First they came for the walnuts, but I didn't like walnuts so I said nothing. Then they came for the pecans and I didn't really eat pecan pie much so I said nothing...

farkit, you know how it ends.
 
2011-11-30 09:54:42 AM
It doesn't matter. I have been assured that climate change is all make-believe nonsense from a bunch of greedy scientists looking for grants so they don't have to get real 'murrican jobs like coal mining or oil rig work.

The seemingly endless number of decimated trees in my area that lost enormous branches or were uprooted during our record tornado season doesn't mean anything. Like the hurricane, tropical storm, record rainfall, 9 week dry spell, record snowfalls and massive flooding that we've had in the last twelve months, not to mention the fact that we got snow before Halloween before going into an incredible late-November warm spell, it's just a unique and unusual event that is not a potential indicator of anything changing.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to my daily regimen of pounding myself in the head with a 2x4 while I listen to Glenn Beck and beat off to the Koch Brothers' income statements.
 
2011-11-30 09:55:59 AM
chuckufarlie: Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

You sound like a moran.
 
2011-11-30 09:56:34 AM
cgraves67: What will I throw at the neighbor kids now?

Feces.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-11-30 09:57:29 AM
farkit, you know how it ends.

I will be dancing in the streets when the last broccoli plant dies.

So stop climate change unless you want to see a middle aged white guy dancing.
 
2011-11-30 09:59:48 AM
Cincinnati Kid: I don't really care for walnuts anyway. Now, if peanuts or cashews are endangered, spare no expense to fix this!

TFA is not talking about the kind of walnuts you don't like (Persian Walnuts), it's talking about Black Walnuts, which have very little commercial value as food, but great value as lumber.
 
2011-11-30 10:17:12 AM
In before the erffirsters...oh, wait.
 
2011-11-30 10:17:32 AM
Splinshints: It doesn't matter. I have been assured that climate change is all make-believe nonsense from a bunch of greedy scientists looking for grants so they don't have to get real 'murrican jobs like coal mining or oil rig work.

The seemingly endless number of decimated trees in my area that lost enormous branches or were uprooted during our record tornado season doesn't mean anything. Like the hurricane, tropical storm, record rainfall, 9 week dry spell, record snowfalls and massive flooding that we've had in the last twelve months, not to mention the fact that we got snow before Halloween before going into an incredible late-November warm spell, it's just a unique and unusual event that is not a potential indicator of anything changing.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to my daily regimen of pounding myself in the head with a 2x4 while I listen to Glenn Beck and beat off to the Koch Brothers' income statements.


Sounds like you got yourself a heck of a lot of weather there, chap.
 
2011-11-30 10:19:21 AM
Splinshints: It doesn't matter. I have been assured that climate change is all make-believe nonsense from a bunch of greedy scientists looking for grants so they don't have to get real 'murrican jobs like coal mining or oil rig work.

The seemingly endless number of decimated trees in my area that lost enormous branches or were uprooted during our record tornado season doesn't mean anything. Like the hurricane, tropical storm, record rainfall, 9 week dry spell, record snowfalls and massive flooding that we've had in the last twelve months, not to mention the fact that we got snow before Halloween before going into an incredible late-November warm spell, it's just a unique and unusual event that is not a potential indicator of anything changing.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to my daily regimen of pounding myself in the head with a 2x4 while I listen to Glenn Beck and beat off to the Koch Brothers' income statements.



you sound fat and ugly.
 
2011-11-30 10:20:49 AM
ZAZ: I will be dancing in the streets when the last broccoli plant dies.

So stop climate change unless you want to see a middle aged white guy dancing.


How about vomiting instead?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-11-30 10:33:32 AM
CheekyMonkey: Cincinnati Kid: I don't really care for walnuts anyway. Now, if peanuts or cashews are endangered, spare no expense to fix this!

TFA is not talking about the kind of walnuts you don't like (Persian Walnuts), it's talking about Black Walnuts, which have very little commercial value as food, but great value as lumber.


I was going to try and make a joke about Persia being Iran and of course, a fine American such as myself wouldn't eat anything Iranian, but realized it was too stupid.

However, as someone who grew up in a small town in Kentucky, I can tell you I have eaten black walnuts many times. I was given the "chore" of cracking the walnuts with a hammer and getting the "good bits" out many times as a kid.

Also, don't ever get that black walnut juice on your hands. You will be stained a long time.
 
2011-11-30 10:34:52 AM
chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.


Oh look, it's chuckufarlie, Fark's resident shining beacon of knowledge and reason.
 
2011-11-30 10:48:39 AM
Splinshints:
It doesn't matter. I have been assured that climate change is all make-believe nonsense from a bunch of greedy scientists looking for grants so they don't have to get real 'murrican jobs like coal mining or oil rig work.

And as the cartoon says, "What if we make a better world for nothing?"

/mmm, coal
 
2011-11-30 10:53:45 AM
chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.


That's some mighty fine trolling there Lou.
 
2011-11-30 10:54:26 AM
Cincinnati Kid: CheekyMonkey: Cincinnati Kid: I don't really care for walnuts anyway. Now, if peanuts or cashews are endangered, spare no expense to fix this!

TFA is not talking about the kind of walnuts you don't like (Persian Walnuts), it's talking about Black Walnuts, which have very little commercial value as food, but great value as lumber.

I was going to try and make a joke about Persia being Iran and of course, a fine American such as myself wouldn't eat anything Iranian, but realized it was too stupid.

However, as someone who grew up in a small town in Kentucky, I can tell you I have eaten black walnuts many times. I was given the "chore" of cracking the walnuts with a hammer and getting the "good bits" out many times as a kid.

Also, don't ever get that black walnut juice on your hands. You will be stained a long time.


Yeah, those bastards are lots of "fun" to crack. Maybe that's why you dislike walnuts?

Well aware of the staining quality, too. Actually have a bucket of black walnut juice in the garage. Was going to use it for playing around with making a natural tye-dye tee shirt (along with some pokeberry juice), but so far that hasn't gotten off the ground. Only thing I've used it for is staining the wooden pizza peel that my GF's daughter gave me for Xmas last year.
 
2011-11-30 11:06:51 AM
Free Radical: chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

That's some mighty fine trolling there Lou.


He's not a troll, just a retard. The 'ignore' feature works wonders.
 
2011-11-30 11:19:16 AM
More nonsense predictions from the marxist Church of Climate Change.

How about the one on hurricanes? How's that one working out for you?


Those Via Meadia readers old enough to remember Hurricane Katrina can no doubt remember the many moralizing predictions of smug and condescending green climate hacktivists that followed: global warming was going to mean more hurricanes and bigger ones. Our coasts were toast; it was baked in the cake. The rising sea level combined with the inexorably rising number of major hurricanes were going to knock the climate skeptics out of the park.

Well, no. Andrew Revkin has called attention to this post from Roger Pielke's blog which shows that as of today it has been 2,226 days since the last major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) hit the US mainland. Unless a big hurricane hits this winter, it means we are on track to break a 100 year record for the longest gap between major hurricanes hitting the coast. (The last Big Calm was between 1900 and 1906.)
 
2011-11-30 11:54:07 AM
Thune: Well, no. Andrew Revkin has called attention to this post from Roger Pielke's blog which shows that as of today it has been 2,226 days since the last major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) hit the US mainland. Unless a big hurricane hits this winter, it means we are on track to break a 100 year record for the longest gap between major hurricanes hitting the coast. (The last Big Calm was between 1900 and 1906.)

That's just an observation. What do the models tell us?
 
2011-11-30 11:54:42 AM
Thune: More nonsense predictions from the marxist Church of Climate Change.

img110.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-30 01:22:21 PM
BurnShrike: chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

Oh look, it's chuckufarlie, Fark's resident shining beacon of knowledge and reason.


knowledge??? I provided the correct range of dates AND the correct increase in temperature. That sounds like knowledge to me, Nancy.
 
2011-11-30 01:23:03 PM
Splinshints: chuckufarlie: Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

You sound like a moran.


And you sound gullible!!!
 
2011-11-30 01:34:00 PM
data.giss.nasa.gov

nicksteel making an incorrect claim? Well dip me in sheep shiat, that never happens.
 
2011-11-30 01:45:36 PM
bluelancer03: Sounds like you got yourself a heck of a lot of weather there, chap.

No shiat?
 
2011-11-30 01:47:53 PM
Free Radical: chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

That's some mighty fine trolling there Lou.


There is an entire industry built around the idea of scaring people shiatless over minor little things. This qualifies as minor because of the long time that it took to show such a small increase and because the methods used to calculate temperature data prior to 1859 suck.
 
2011-11-30 02:11:56 PM
justGreg: Thune: Well, no. Andrew Revkin has called attention to this post from Roger Pielke's blog which shows that as of today it has been 2,226 days since the last major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) hit the US mainland. Unless a big hurricane hits this winter, it means we are on track to break a 100 year record for the longest gap between major hurricanes hitting the coast. (The last Big Calm was between 1900 and 1906.)

That's just an observation. What do the models tell us?



Real world data just told you that the models are crap.
 
2011-11-30 02:30:44 PM
chuckufarlie: There is an entire industry built around the idea of scaring people shiatless over minor little things.

Yes, it's sometimes called "the mass media".

Technical journals are a bit different.
 
2011-11-30 04:31:15 PM
chuckufarlie: BurnShrike: chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

Oh look, it's chuckufarlie, Fark's resident shining beacon of knowledge and reason.

knowledge??? I provided the correct range of dates AND the correct increase in temperature. That sounds like knowledge to me, Nancy.


The average temperature of the Earth's surface increased by about .8C over the past 100 years with about .6C of this warming occurring over just the past three decades (new window)

Wrong on both counts.

And just for the record, what's the approx. global average temperature difference between today's comfortable climate and an ice age? Only 6-8 C. A rate of change like the kind we've seen over the past 3 decades would (if going the opposite direction, obviously) put us in an ice age in as little as 300 years. A natural shift like that would take thousands of years.
 
2011-11-30 06:20:04 PM
chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

You seem to be asserting without evidence that the recent change of ~+1K will have little impact on agriculture and vegetation.

Sadly, the plants disagree:
serc.carleton.edu

It's not as simple as just 'moving north', either. Just because a region's temperature pattern approximates, say, central California, doesn't mean the same fruits, vegetables, grains, and other agricultural products will grow there. You have to consider rainfall, soil conditions (pH, mineral content, water retention, runoff, etc.), altitude, other local macro/micro flora/fauna, etc.

Any farmer will tell you about how sensitive their crops are to the weather. Small shifts have significant impacts.
 
2011-11-30 08:35:35 PM
But, without wallnuts, how can I stop the zombies from eating my brains?
 
2011-11-30 09:58:56 PM
Hmmm, thread's been green for over 12 hours, last substantial post on the subject of climate change was 3 hours ago. Green text in 3 hrs +/- 2 hours.
 
2011-12-01 01:11:39 AM
chuckufarlie:
Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

Walnuts? WTF? These guys aren't even trying any more. What's next? "Dryers may eat more socks if warming continues?"

What with two nut-shots to the AGW hoax in the last week or so, I expected a DRASTIC and DIRE warning which requires IMMEDIATE action, without thinking about it by now. Maybe they're finally giving up. The amount of science one has to deny to maintain faith in AGW is swelling rapidly.
 
2011-12-01 01:13:23 AM
Splinshints:
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to my daily regimen of pounding myself in the head with a 2x4 while I listen to Glenn Beck and beat off to the Koch Brothers' income statements.

Ick. Liberals...
 
2011-12-01 01:23:47 AM
justGreg:
That's just an observation. What do the models tell us?


img.memecenter.com
 
2011-12-01 01:25:43 AM
DicksWii:
But, without wallnuts, how can I stop the zombies from eating my brains?

Bury them in the park? It works for the squirrels...
 
2011-12-01 02:01:00 AM
Zafler: Hmmm, thread's been green for over 12 hours, last substantial post on the subject of climate change was 3 hours ago. Green text in 3 hrs +/- 2 hours.

2011-11-30 09:58:56 PM

GeneralJim:
derp redacted

2011-12-01 01:11:39 AM

Damn dude, you called that.
 
2011-12-01 02:40:04 AM
You see Walnut trees were created only 5,000 years ago. If they had evolved over a longer time than just since the last glacial maximum about 12,000 years ago, they could withstand the Earth's normal ebb and flow as it goes from warmth to glaciation and back again. Obviously they're flood tolerant though, so they'll make it through the Rapture just fine.
 
2011-12-01 07:10:41 AM
CheekyMonkey: Free Radical: chuckufarlie: Yea, that rapid increase (it took over 150 years) to these new blistering hot increases (less than .6 degrees) is killing everything.

Maybe some of you should look into getting a spine. Oh, and a working brain.

That's some mighty fine trolling there Lou.

He's not a troll, just a retard. The 'ignore' feature works wonders.


Well if hes not a troll thats some nuclear grade stupid.

Illl have to favorite him so I can watch for the entertainment value.
 
2011-12-01 09:01:38 AM
GeneralJim: Walnuts? WTF? These guys aren't even trying any more. What's next? "Dryers may eat more socks if warming continues?"

Again, because it's kind of important:

serc.carleton.edu

We're already empirically observing shifts in vegetation over a span of 16 years. That's going to impact agricultural yields. I don't see why that is even controversial.
 
2011-12-01 09:47:45 AM
joethebastard: Zafler: Hmmm, thread's been green for over 12 hours, last substantial post on the subject of climate change was 3 hours ago. Green text in 3 hrs +/- 2 hours.

2011-11-30 09:58:56 PM

GeneralJim: derp redacted

2011-12-01 01:11:39 AM

Damn dude, you called that.


To be fair, the qualitative part is like flipping a coin and calling "not edge".

The quantitative part is what impressed me: He predicted a Class 1 Derpstorm's arrival within 8% (193 minutes, vs. predicted value of 180 minutes). Zafler's only mistake was setting his error bars too wide.

We might have to make the game more interesting, and try to predict THE number of UNNECCESSARY capitalizations, or the number of times he cites a conspiracy blog as proof of another conspiracy blog.
 
2011-12-01 11:08:51 AM
chimp_ninja: Zafler's only mistake was setting his error bars too wide.

Yeah, I originally had it +/- 1 hour, but second guessed myself, oh well.
 
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