Entertainment/Animal welfare.
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PETA, sic submitter

Groundwater and runoff, subby, how does it work?

Does your own damn land exist inside an airtight bubble, and have no hydrological runoff?

cman: Since we don't eat elephants I fail to see the point of the USDA being in control of this.

Since we don't milk elephants, I fail to see the point of the US dairy association being in control of this.

I also fail to see where they get the authority to hand out rental assistance in urban areas, but that is for another thread.

jayhawk88: Groundwater and runoff, subby, how does it work?

This. Subby's a tard.

vudukungfu: cman: Since we don't eat elephants I fail to see the point of the USDA being in control of this.

Since we don't milk elephants, I fail to see the point of the US dairy association being in control of this.

I also fail to see where they get the authority to hand out rental assistance in urban areas, but that is for another thread.

Errr, doesn't USDA stand for United States Department of Agriculture?

PlatinumDragon: vudukungfu: cman: Since we don't eat elephants I fail to see the point of the USDA being in control of this.

Since we don't milk elephants, I fail to see the point of the US dairy association being in control of this.

I also fail to see where they get the authority to hand out rental assistance in urban areas, but that is for another thread.

Errr, doesn't USDA stand for United States Department of Agriculture?

The USDA fines a circus for the treatment of elephants? There is no way they could be treated worst than cows in a slaughterhouse.

I've got no problem with this. Just don't start trying to legislate what the animals' owners can name them.

I'm talking to YOU, PETA.

If the elephants don't like their working conditions they can find other jobs.

Wellon Dowd: If the elephants don't like their working conditions they can find other jobs.

Especially after the chains are removed.

seadoo2006: PlatinumDragon: vudukungfu: cman: Since we don't eat elephants I fail to see the point of the USDA being in control of this.

Since we don't milk elephants, I fail to see the point of the US dairy association being in control of this.

I also fail to see where they get the authority to hand out rental assistance in urban areas, but that is for another thread.

Errr, doesn't USDA stand for United States Department of Agriculture?

*hangs head in shame*

I don't see what the US Dental Association has to do with this. Typical government overreach.

hyper: The USDA fines a circus for the treatment of elephants? There is no way they could be treated worst than cows in a slaughterhouse.

It is far more acceptable to mistreat animals if you are going to eat them.

Force a horse to stand in feces up to it's knees? Unacceptable. Force a cow to stand in feces up to it's knees while it waits to be slaughtered? A-OK.

We have way too much government interference in our lives

PghThermal: Wellon Dowd: If the elephants don't like their working conditions they can find other jobs.

Especially after the chains are removed.

Elephants of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!

Circus Boy does NOT approve....

The US Department of Agriculture has regulatory authority for care of animals. This mission starts with farm animals, but extends to other places where animals are used in a commercial capacity, including circuses and zoos.

It makes sense--put all of the animal care experts in one agency to avoid duplicate effort and competing standards. Granted, it may seem a bit odd, but less so, in my mind, then when the folks in charge of protecting the president were part of the Department of Treasury (since moved to DHS).

brewswane: We have way too much government interference in our lives

The United States Dialysis Agency better just keep their socialist paws off my Medicare!!!!!

hyper: The USDA fines a circus for the treatment of elephants? There is no way they could be treated worst than cows in a slaughterhouse.

Or wild mustangs minding their own farking business.
they shoot horses, don't they?

USDA doesn't regulate horses.

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Yeah, those damned commies don't know what they're talking about.

hyper: There is no way they could be treated worst than cows in a slaughterhouse.

Or how about the McFarms that raise cattle, chickens, etc.

Mrkos: USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Because we dont' milk them.

vudukungfu: Mrkos: USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Because we dont' milk them.

You can milk anything with nipples.

PghThermal: Wellon Dowd: If the elephants don't like their working conditions they can find other jobs.

Especially after the chains are removed.



/Approves

stevetherobot: vudukungfu: Mrkos: USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Because we dont' milk them.

You can milk anything with nipples.

I have nipples, but you can't milk me.

Can't explain that.

vudukungfu: Mrkos: USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Because we dont' milk them.

Oh, you can milk just about anything with nipples.

Is it just me or are there more libertarian/pseudo-conservative troll headlines today than usual? Seriously. Drew is on a roll.

BurnShrike: stevetherobot: vudukungfu: Mrkos: USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Because we dont' milk them.

You can milk anything with nipples.

I have nipples, but you can't milk me.

Can't explain that.

{gets milking stool}

I'm willing to try.

every time the USDA inspected our show they didn't even care to look at horses or zebras, just the elephants and tigers.

What does pesticides and "own land" have to do with the story, which is about the treatment of performing animals. Actually, since they are not on their own land, how they use pesticides and leave them behind on borrowed land would be important if even mentioned in the story.

The settlement comes in the wake of a federal appeals court dismissal of a lawsuit against Feld Entertainment filed by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and the Animal Protection Institute.

The lawsuit alleged that the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus is in violation of the Endangered Species Act and that the circus systematically abuses and exploits elephants by using metal bullhooks to guide and control the animals, as well as chaining their legs while they are not performing.


Nevermind the fact that the hooks aren't sharp and an elephant's skin is so thick they feel no pain and suffer no damage from them. Or the fact that most cities REQUIRE the elephants to be restrained while in town. I hear dog collars and tying your horse up to the hitching post are also cruel and abusive. ASPCA go fark yourselves if this is the best cause you can support.

Here is an argument in support of the prosecution.

I guess somewhere it was decided some government agency should benefit from the fining potential.
After investigations, court proceedings, etc I wonder how much was really profited from the fines.

Hopefully the USDA uses the money to better regulate the cattle industry. Their poor treatment results in dead kids.

Not that I begrudge tax payer money being used to help protect circus animals but it is a shame people don't vote on the treatment with thier pocket books by not attending the circus.

I think an industry that kills people due to the poor treatment of animals should be the greater focus. Not an industry chosen based on a fanatical yet powerful private org like PETA.

Corn lot feeding alone is what causes ecoli. Grass fed cows do not have the bacteria in thier delicious bodies.

what you can and cannot use as pesticides on your own damn land

Fine, if what you spray on your own damn land stays on your own damn land, not in my air, land, and water supply, dickweed.

Rapmaster2000: I don't see what the US Dental Association has to do with this. Typical government overreach.

You know elephants have tusks, right? Tusks fall under the dental category.

lilbjorn: what you can and cannot use as pesticides on your own damn land

Fine, if what you spray on your own damn land stays on your own damn land, not in my air, land, and water supply, dickweed.

We have conundrum here. One group apparently doesn't own anything, and the other everything, and to top it off, tops it off with some sort of dickweed.

rvesco: Here is an argument in support of the prosecution.

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I'd show her my three ring circus.

/Yeeehaw!

(face palm) Subby, subby, subby...

Hey subby, the USDA has many different agencies under it's umbrella. One is APHIS, an acronym for the Animal Plant Health Inspection Service. One of the things APHIS monitors is compliance with the Animal Welfare Act.

Mrkos USDA doesn't regulate horses.

Yep, they do that to in APHIS. APHIS also enforces the Horse Protetion Act.