Glad someone understands that the best way to understand a foreign land is to avoid the natives.

SoCalSurfer:

I like the "parents died of aids, no bedtime" one.

I think she's doing it wrong.

I think it's sick.

Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

It would have been a way more awesome story if it were Michael Hutchence's mom

maq0r: I think it's sick.

Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

Can probably understand it better by donating to and volunteering for the Wounded Warrior Foundation or similar causes.

maq0r: I think it's sick.

Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

maq0r: I think it's sick.

Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

I think it depends on the person. If they are truly seeking understanding and closure, an experience like Ms. West's could be of immense value. If they're just mad with grief and desperate for anything that will give them some small sad shadow of their lost one's presence, it probably would just prolong the problem.

I served in the 3rd chemical brigade with a mother and daughter. The fark was that the daughter out ranked the mother. I asked the mom and she said that if she couldnt talk her daughter out of enlisting then she was going too. Neither one was very "high speed" but I admire the courage. As far as it was when I left the unit they hadn't deployed. I wonder where they are now.

maq0r: I think it's sick. Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

I think she went for the wrong reasons, but ended up doing good in the long run, so it's hard to say it was all bad.

ThisNameSux: Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

It's a tad macabre.

jingks: maq0r: I think it's sick. Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

I think she went for the wrong reasons, but ended up doing good in the long run, so it's hard to say it was all bad.

ThisNameSux: Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

It's a tad macabre.

Yes, that's why there are countless memorials across the county marking the spot where a loved one was killed.

Bradley's are crappy vehicles. Even the new A3s.

Almost as crappy as my apostrophe usage.

ThisNameSux: Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

I didn't want to see the cancer that killed my mother. Wanting to see the savages that killed a woman's son is no different.

ThisNameSux: Yes, that's why there are countless memorials across the county marking the spot where a loved one was killed.

Trying to enlist, then getting a job with the hopes of getting to Iraq, then calling " ride in a Bradley like the one her son was killed in" the highlight of the trip is a little more than a memorial. To me it comes off a little nutty.

However, like I said, there was the "two and a half years she helped support the troops with basic necessities like food and lodging". That probably helped with her grief 100x more than the previously mentioned acts.

ThisNameSux: jingks: maq0r: I think it's sick. Not trolling or anything, I lost my sister and my mom got into this same shiat only to be more and more depressed and away of her other children.

I think she went for the wrong reasons, but ended up doing good in the long run, so it's hard to say it was all bad.

ThisNameSux: Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

It's a tad macabre.

Yes, that's why there are countless memorials across the county marking the spot where a loved one was killed.

It is sick; like I said, I've seen it first hand. I took my mother to a support group of mothers who had lost their children and almost all of them kept living just for the thought of knowing wtf happened.

They would neglect their other children, personal care, health, relationships, etc.

I would be really ticked off if my mom risked her life to go to the shiathole warzone I'd died in. There are far more beneficial things that could be done back home.

James10952001: I would be really ticked off if my mom risked her life to go to the shiathole warzone I'd died in. There are far more beneficial things that could be done back home.

Same. I'd prefer if she just would throw a great party or something.

ThisNameSux:

Yes, wanting to see where her son was killed is sick. Die you farking loser.

How is that any different than people who wear a cross to symbolize their devotion to Jesus. She should just wear a tiny IED around her neck.

So she decided to go out and kill some babies too?

But what West never imagined was the journey to understand her son's death would teach her more about life.

"You've got to find your own passion," said West. "It's about giving more than taking and those are the things he had figured out."


While giving lots of suppressive fire can help, it's really just the rounds the enemy take which matter.

The really sad part is that no matter how long she spends in that desert, she will never find good cause for her son to have died there... because there was no good cause for him to be there or to die there.

slc11082: Don't care, sorry.

It's war, soldiers are just meat for the grinder. That's why we take the least brightest and least educated to do the fighting.
You don't ever hear about some guy with a full ride scholarship giving it all up and enlisting do you? That'd be dumb.


Pat Tillman

slc11082: You don't ever hear about some guy with a full ride scholarship giving it all up and enlisting do you? That'd be dumb

Actually, more of my friends who enlisted came from wealthy families with a good education than not. Could just be more representitive of who I keep as friends, but contrary to popular belief the military doesnt want dumbasses, they want adaptive soldiers who can out think their enemy in the field.

/and they HATE it when you have bad credit

slc11082: Don't care, sorry.

It's war, soldiers are just meat for the grinder. That's why we take the least brightest and least educated to do the fighting.
You don't ever hear about some guy with a full ride scholarship giving it all up and enlisting do you? That'd be dumb.

I'm sure they would reject applicants of your "calibre" as you know I'm sure you wont meet the requirements

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm

I may not have enlisted but being from a military family I highly respect our fighting forces. There was a time I considered it and I had a full ride to college and got my BSE with an emphasis in mechanical.

Harv72b: slc11082: Don't care, sorry. But I'll throw out a troll anyway because that's all I've got in life.

It's war, soldiers are just meat for the grinder. That's why we take the least brightest and least educated to do the fighting.
You don't ever hear about some guy with a full ride scholarship giving it all up and enlisting do you? That'd be dumb.

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But hey, you're doing fine work here. A true credit to simians everywhere.

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Today's soldiers are all volunteer, and are actually required to pass physical and education qualification tests in order to be allowed to serve. Yes, I knew some less than sparkly brilliant soldiers, but when compared to the general population, our armed forces are, at the very least, HS-education equivalent, and higher, and physically fit!

I gave up a good scholarship to enlist. After HS I was done (done!) with going to school for awhile. Rather than just sit on my butt and be a useless lazy drain on my parents or society, I decided to do something productive and joined the Army. Served my country for 10yrs, went to college, and then had a great civilian career... which I gave up to be a SAHM (because we can afford that luxury). As a family, we still serve our country overseas in the ME.

I don't know how I'd react if I were that mom, but it seems she turned her grief into positive action. She did what she thought she needed to do to help herself, and she dedicated herself - real work, not empty words - to supporting her son's fellow troops, on the ground, in Iraq.

qitty: Rather than just sit on my butt and be a useless lazy drain on my parents or society, I decided to do something productive and joined the Army.

I'd like to point a few things out.

a) The military budget IS a drain on the society. There is absolutely no need for a gigantic army, unless you are going to invade other countries. And that's has proven to be fiscally unsound.
b) The Army isn't meant to be productive - it's supposed to be destructive in nature. If something useful does come out of the army, it's probably via DARPA funds - which leads back to a).

I'm not saying that you've wasted your time - just don't kid yourself about where the money training you and your salary came from (taxpayers).

Soo..you didn't want to be a useless drain on society all alone and went out to get some company.

(oops) sorry about messing up the html in the above reply.... it previewed ok... I must need more coffee :p

I don't understand this personally and would not have chosen to do this if it were my son, but mocking anyone for how they deal with grief is a good sign you're giant asshole.

/Congrats...?

Pollexabator: I don't understand this personally and would not have chosen to do this if it were my son, but mocking anyone for how they deal with grief is a good sign you're giant asshole.

/Congrats...?

Who's moking it?

Nobody here is going HA HA. Saying it's sick or macabre is not mocking.

Harv72b: Finally, an apparently little-known fact: people in the armed forces still pay taxes (unless actively serving in a combat zone, to be fair). Thus, the money for their training and their salaries also comes from them.

It's called the Human Centipede Effect