What loud noises from a church may look like:

Without reading TFA, I'm guessing the church is a black or hispanic dominated church, and the complainers are white.

ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

This is nothing like living next to an airport. Why would the church not try to be more understanding of their neighbors?

Put a rebel flag on the lawn so they can calm down.

ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

Oh, another SubGenius I see. You know those people are just being robbed of their money to praise a god that doesn't exist? Who knows, maybe it's the sound of kids being sodomized by priests. But since it's the church, it's ok, right you loopy theist?

/just preparing you for what you're gonna hear from the Fark Anti-Theists^TM
//Christian myself

ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

Church people aren't supposed to be assholes. It's a common misconception.

CruiserTwelve: Is this the church?

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Dammitsomuch.

/shakes tiny fist

FTFA

The church, in return, has asked a judge to dismiss the lawsuit, alleging in court filings that the condo owners are trying to violate the church's constitutional right to the free exercise of religion.

Freedom is religion is not a pass to do whatever you want. Laws, ordinances, etc still apply to you.

Keep your Jesus quiet

Shoulda went with a drum circle, those are exempt from infringing on someone's rights

Live across the street from the local Apostolic Church. Those folks really get down with the drums and yelling and such. However, the church is set far back from the street & across a large parking lot, so I never really notice the noise unless I'm outside and it's otherwise quiet.

Would get rather annoying if it was something I could hear through the walls, though.

Therefore I will give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and I will sing praises unto thy name.

II Samuel 22:50



IT IS A GOOD THING TO GIVE THANKS UNTO THE LORD, AND TO SING PRAISES UNTO THY NAME, O MOST HIGH

Psalm 92:1

TFA seems to be leaving out quite a bit, but apparently a couple decades ago this church had a big building but almost no congregation. No congregation = no money to keep up the big building, and it was getting run down and icky. They sold a big chunk of the church building off for condos, but kept the sanctuary and a 99 year lease on the Sunday School classrooms. The condos were hugely popular and sold for way lot of money.

Twenty years pass, and the still-tiny congregation decides to become a satellite campus for a local megachurch. So instead of a couple dozen people and an acoustic guitar in the sanctuary on Sunday, you've got a renovated sanctuary with a full worship band (they did put in sound baffles to decrease the noise), and people actually exercising the lease on the Sunday School space.

Now the condo owners, who probably expected the church to go the way of the dodo, are seriously torqued about the new status quo, It's not a race thing, it's a "the church in the same building wiith me just grew twentyfold and won't get off my lawn" thing. Should be an interesting case, but I suspect the church will win most or all of it.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the Lord's kitchen.

Ahmen!

if they were biatching about the Islamic calls to prayer they would be racist assholes, amirite?

Kinda hard NOT to be near a church in the state of South Carolina. You can't throw a stone and not hit a church in this state.

I grew up in a former church parsonage; the neighboring church thought nothing of blasting its sermons out over loudspeakers. If I wasn't born an atheist, witnessing such blatant disregard for the sensibilities of others surely had an impact.

/And why am I not surprised snake handlers can't spell?

So, we have douchebag NIMBY neighbors, or the invisible sky wizard fan club. Is it too much to ask that they both lose?

ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

how...um...Christian of you. I'm sure if Jesus existed he would totally agree with that sentiment.

Rezone and dump the church.

i_got_no_strings: TFA seems to be leaving out quite a bit, but apparently a couple decades ago this church had a big building but almost no congregation. No congregation = no money to keep up the big building, and it was getting run down and icky. They sold a big chunk of the church building off for condos, but kept the sanctuary and a 99 year lease on the Sunday School classrooms. The condos were hugely popular and sold for way lot of money.

Twenty years pass, and the still-tiny congregation decides to become a satellite campus for a local megachurch. So instead of a couple dozen people and an acoustic guitar in the sanctuary on Sunday, you've got a renovated sanctuary with a full worship band (they did put in sound baffles to decrease the noise), and people actually exercising the lease on the Sunday School space.

Now the condo owners, who probably expected the church to go the way of the dodo, are seriously torqued about the new status quo, It's not a race thing, it's a "the church in the same building wiith me just grew twentyfold and won't get off my lawn" thing. Should be an interesting case, but I suspect the church will win most or all of it.

i_got_ no_strings
"TFA seems to be leaving out quite a bit, but apparently a couple
decades ago this church had a big building but almost no
congregation. No congregation = no money to keep up the big
building, and it was getting run down and icky. They sold a big chunk
of the church building off for condos, but kept the sanctuary and a
99 year lease on the Sunday School classrooms. The condos were
hugely popular and sold for way lot of money.
Twenty years pass, and the still-tiny congregation decides to become
a satellite campus for a local megachurch. So instead of a couple
dozen people and an acoustic guitar in the sanctuary on Sunday,
you've got a renovated sanctuary with a full worship band (they did
put in sound baffles to decrease the noise), and people actually
exercising the lease on the Sunday School space.
Now the condo owners, who probably expected the church to go the
way of the dodo, are seriously torqued about the new status quo, It's
not a race thing, it' s a "the church in the same building wiith me just
grew twentyfold and won't get off my lawn" thing. Should be an
interesting case, but I suspect the church will win most or all of it."

That was a well-thought out, researched, reasonable analysis.

But HOW DARE YOU NOT INSTANTLY TAKE A SIDE WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE!!!!!

apparently, Fark mobile inserts the quote automatically without prompting.

Megachurch v. NIMBY busybody neighbors.

I'm torn. Torn like an old sweater.

Crack head with spiders under her skin = nutso.
Invisible sky wizard believers chanting their hymns? = protected??

I'm torn

CruiserTwelve: Is this the church?

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Built before the Civil War? That could make it an Old Landmark.

ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

I'd say there's a difference between music that can be toned down and typically occurs just in the morning and evenings on specific days, and an airport where the sounds of jet engines cannot be adjusted. People can stop singing so loudly, or the churchgoers could install insulation or better windows to cut the transfer of sound. And it does sound like the new non-denominational freaks started up in just the past year or so, after the condos were set up. But yeah, people should expect churches to be loud on Sundays and Wednesdays, schools to be noisy during school hours and Friday night football, airports to be loud 24/7, railroad crossings to be noisy when a train rolls by, etc etc.

ArkAngel: AcneVulgaris: ArkAngel: Belonging to a church that docs modern worship, it can get quite loud. However, the people bought condos knowing the church would be there. Fark them. It's like the people who bought houses right next to the O'Hare Airport expansion who then complained about the noise

Church people aren't supposed to be assholes. It's a common misconception.

I don't see this as the church being assholes. I see it as the church going on with their regular business. Would you move in above a bar and then complain about the noise from bands?

I expect a bar to have bands. I expect a church to have a choir that sings on sunday morning.

he Mohmedans don't come 'round here wavin' bells at us!
We don't get Buddhists playing bagpipes in our bathroom! Or Hindus harmonizing in the hall!
The Shintuists don't come here shattering sheet glass...

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Complaints about a loud church?

I guess we know what to expect next...

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Ha! I came here to post this...



"No, the law does not apply to preaching."


/my all-time fav mst3k episode
//pudding!

Perducci: he Mohmedans don't come 'round here wavin' bells at us!
We don't get Buddhists playing bagpipes in our bathroom! Or Hindus harmonizing in the hall!
The Shintuists don't come here shattering sheet glass...

Don't practice your alliteration on me!

mmagdalene: I grew up in a former church parsonage; the neighboring church thought nothing of blasting its sermons out over loudspeakers. If I wasn't born an atheist, witnessing such blatant disregard for the sensibilities of others surely had an impact.

Grew up in a parsonage? Drag. And isn't everyone born an atheist?

OK, maybe we develop some kind of ideas...

Allen. The end.: And isn't everyone born an atheist?

No, they are just born. They learn later and choose what they are going to be.