Disaster Transport: And Mullan says he's done this tackle "hundreds of times and I'd probably do it again." Fine: $5,000, 10 game suspension (29% of the games)

No one minds if you do it within the context of the game. Now imagine that happened away from the play where two guys were just jogging around (since there's technically no "after the whistle" except at halves. I imagine people would want that guy kicked out of the league.

He got off easy considering Ndamukong Suh raped and murdered a young girl in 1990

halfof33: Do you ever actually have anything of value to say? Shouldn't you be over in a thread with the other historic losers?

Like the Cubs?

Approves.

zippolight2002: I know you're joking, but I wouldn't be surprised if the n word got thrown around and set him off.

I highly doubt that. I'm not a Packers fan, but that just seems extremely unlikely.

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Suh was never going to be treated fairly after a white player was stomped. The truth is always going to be lost when rushing to string up the latest brother who white people have started to fear.

FiatJustitia: So...a defensive player got aggressive? I thought that was the whole point of you know, being an aggressive lineman.

Doing it after the whistle is generally frowned upon, however. "It" in this case being three head-smacks to the turf and one arm stomp. None of those things are intrinsic to being an aggressive lineman.

See, what we have here is the ultimate competitor and a Detroit Lions legend. He is extremely talented and is a physical specimen. His desire to win is what drives him more than anything, not the glory that comes with it. He'll do pretty much anything to ensure his team gets a victory at any cost, sacrificing his body on every single play as if it were his last. He plays the game with such intensity and tenacity that it strikes fear into the very heart of his opponents. At the end of the day though, he doesn't care what his critics say, he just wants to win and that is it.

I am talking about Barry Sanders. Ndamukong Suh could learn a lot from him.

LL316: As a Lions fan, I'm actually glad he finally did something dirty. If you're going to be accused of something, you might as well do it. The timing of it was obviously stupid, but the action itself doesn't bother me at all. F the NFL. Tackling a quarterback does not make you dirty.

Why not watch the clip in question before attempting to join the conversation?

Disaster Transport: MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.

Do you want to step back and think about how many other plays would result in jail time when not on a football field?

/wow

*facepalm* @ your "logic"

Scruffinator: I agree with all of this except the first sentence. The Lions haven't actually succeeded at anything yet. Their record is good, much better than it has been in recent years, but there's still 5 games left. Anything can happen.

They're actually not even in playoff position.

BTW, Suh is the only player I've ever seen "tackle" a quarterback with a forearm shot from behind thrown like a punch. Most tacklers try to wrap a player up, especially when they're clearly not falling down themselves and are catching up to the guy.

pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.

I was bored and wanted to know how much this would actually be. From the Googles, it says a typical US bill weighs about a gram. So, 400,000 100 dollar bills would be about 882 lbs. Add in bands and wrapping, and I'm pretty sure it would be about 1/2 a ton.

/so very bored

LesserEvil: Amazing to see how many Farkers absolutely hate the Lions' success.

Suh got 2 games, which is about right for the offense that occurred. Hainsworth got 5 games (not a lifetime ban) for a HEAD STOMP that resulted in a nasty injury, where Suh got 2 games for a stomp at (not really on) an arm that resulted in, well, no harm at all to the player.

The head shoving? That's not unusual, many players will tell you that (and did in commenting on the whole mess). It's probably worth a flag for three shoves, but not further consideration beyond that.

Idiots calling for Suh to be banned for life are really insanely stupid, just like jackasses calling for the Death Penalty at Penn State... they are simply doing it out of hate for the organization, not out of any reasonable, intelligent logic.

I disliked his post-game statement, but you also have to consider his emotions were still running high from being thrown out of the game. Suh is normally a well spoken guy, and we can't know what was running through his head... but as a Lions fan, I was disappointed; but the "emotional" explanation other players and commentators have given makes the most sense there. Don't expect an apology to the player from Suh - his anger probably had context, as Green Bay was getting away with holds, many obvious, during the game... doesn't excuse losing your cool and doing stupid crap, but it gives context.

jdjoker: you know, the guy whose head he actually slammed

Really? More like jammed a couple of inches. As I noted above, many NFL players have said that defensive players do that to "make a statement" and it's more theater than effect. If your player can't handle that, maybe they are in the wrong line of work, geez. Fans need to stop transferring their own baby-ness onto their players.

Please note I'm not making excuses... Suh got penalized, thrown out of the game and suspended two games. I think that is about the right measure for his actions during and following the game. I just think anybody crying here for more are simply being irrational and deluded.

Dude.

Don't feed the trolls. That's all they are.

Suh did something abysmally stupid. Then he followed up with something even more idiotic. He was punished for it. The end.

/Go Lions!
//Yes, Suh is dirty. Buy his jersey, then defile it if it angers you so much.