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2011-11-29 01:45:30 PM  
I'll say it again. We've had two stomping incidents this season, and both have occurred against the Packers offensive line. Coincidence? Possibly, but unlikely.
 
2011-11-29 01:46:19 PM  

INeedAName: dfxdeimos: Hector Remarkable: I take the word "professional" seriously myself, even in professional sports.

There is no excuse for this. He should be banned from the NFL for life. Period.
You act like that, you're out.

What an idiotic suggestion. Attitudes like yours are the reason the NFL has become so incredibly pussified.

These men are payed millions of dollars to destroy their bodies for our amusement. Period. Personally, I think the NFL should be doing whatever it can to encourage more violence on the field.

I love people like you. You would've been in the stands at the Colosseum as people were eviscerated by lions and give not a fark.

I pay to watch them play a game, and I pay to watch them play it well. That means displaying some self control and decorum. You're basically advocating for the human variant of dog fighting.


Correct on both counts.
 
2011-11-29 01:46:29 PM  

you are a puppet: I was a Cornhusker equipment manager and I got to see how Dirty Suh was on several occasions (thankfully I was never on the receiving end). The guy got into actual fights with practically everyone on the team, not just scraps but real brawls with haymakers being thrown. They actually had some of the alumni team members from the 90s come in and played like a scrimmage game once, and Suh was even going after some of the players from the 90s. At one point he stomped on Tommy Frazier's heart. There were some spectators at the scrimmage too, one of them was a 14 year old kid that Suh had beef with after throwing him through a wall or something. Suh ends up pounding on this kid, meanwhile Christian Peter rapes the kids little sister. Then Lawrence Phillips runs the kid over with his car. Suh, Peter and Phillips went out for beers afterwards. No one knows what happened to the kids.


I heard Tom Osbourne sodomized the Oklahmoa Sooners wagon.
 
2011-11-29 01:48:58 PM  

GOOD.

 
2011-11-29 01:49:14 PM  

scottydoesntknow: We have close to 400 million people in this country and I can damn well guarantee there are a couple thousand people that could play just as well as Suh, and not be a complete douche on the field at the same time.


lol
 
2011-11-29 01:49:25 PM  
Rumor has it that during his last season at Nebraska, Suh used to shiat in the shower and heel it down the drain.
 
2011-11-29 01:49:56 PM  

zippolight2002: They put up 200+ yards of their own, only reason they didn't get points was a couple dumb penalties and Stafford wearing those damn gloves (10INT's since he started wearing them 3 games ago btw). With a healthy Stafford and the playoffs on the line in the final game, Detroit has a decent shot at taking them down (especially if they rest Rodgers).

In summary... you're the delusional one.


Yes, I'm the delusional one, says the guy blaming Stafford's shiatty play on the gloves he has on.

/and you totally would have beaten the Bears at Soldier Field if it wasn't for that damn wind!
 
2011-11-29 01:51:48 PM  
When I was at Nebraska, I was finishing my thesis in theoretical physics on the existence of monopoles. Suh showed up to my lecture. After I finished presenting my case, I asked the audience if there were any questions. Suh raised his hand, and upon being called upon, began deriding my work as "derivative" and "definitely not worth his, nor the faculty's time or the university's money." He continued to question my methods, my baseline data, calculations, etc. for 10 straight minutes. He then smashed the podium over my head, then bit my weiner.
 
2011-11-29 01:52:16 PM  

Desquamation: Rumor has it that during his last season at Nebraska, Suh used to shiat in the shower and heel it down the drain.


that right there is pretty bad ass.

/figuratively
//and literally
 
2011-11-29 01:52:26 PM  
http://youtu.be/FvM3uNCvOgA

I'm not a fan of Fat Albert, but him getting 5 games as a first time offender and Suh getting 2 games is some bullchit man.

He should have gotten no less than 3.
 
2011-11-29 01:52:55 PM  

Fark It: ddam: Fark It: ddam: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).

You're right. The Lions could win out and make it in. The Packers could also lose out and miss the playoffs entirely. Both scenarios are entirely reasonable and plausible....

I think the Packers are in even if they lose the rest of their games.

However, if I had to make a bet today (real money not online posts like you) as to which team would make the playoffs between Chicago or Detroit I'd pick Detroit and put a medium wager on it (medium on my scale where my bets range from $10 to $250)

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL.html


Thanks for the site... looks like Cowboys have a better shot at making the playoffs than both Chicago and Detroit but that's thanks to Eagles/Giants/Redskins not being anywhere close to Green Bay.

I still wouldn't pencil in any wins for Chicago with their QB problems. We'll see in a few weeks where they stand.
 
2011-11-29 01:54:39 PM  
Detroit sports fans showing their true colors in this thread. Suh belongs in that shiathole of a city.

And unless Detroit sports fans can stop acting like complete jackasses when they move to a real city, they should all just stay in that shiathole of a city as well. We will not miss your presence.
 
2011-11-29 01:54:52 PM  

Slackfumasta: dfxdeimos: What an idiotic suggestion. Attitudes like yours are the reason the NFL has become so incredibly pussified.

Nah, liability for injuries is the reason the NFL has become 'pussified'. It's no coincidence that the league has put a large emphasis on head injury treatment lately, just after lots of new reports of retired players having mental issues, especially lineman. The NFL could easily be held responsible for these injuries, so they are making rules that will protect them from being sued.

Of course, I'm sure there are enough retired players with brain trauma to bankrupt the NFL should they ever decide to sue.

Speaking of Suh, he should have been suspended for the rest of the year.


Nah, they would never prevail in court. I am sure they have signed waivers absolving the NFL of any liability. Also, who in their right mind thinks slamming your 300 lbs body into another 300 lbs body thousands of time has no consequences? They knew what they were doing. No sympathy. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
 
2011-11-29 01:56:00 PM  
meh, i'm glad we got rid of jim schwartz, the guy wants players like Suh and gives 'em free reign to due their albert haynesworth 2.0 shtick

defenses shouldn't be run by defensive prima donnas
 
2011-11-29 01:56:37 PM  
Suh's whereabouts at roughly 12PM on 11/22/63 have never been satisfactorily explained to the authorities.
 
2011-11-29 01:58:06 PM  
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2011-11-29 01:59:04 PM  

Chummer45: I see that the bloodlusters who want Suh's head on a platter have come out in full force in this thread. Jesus.

What he did was stupid, and his explanation was even more stupid. And he's completely f'ing up what could have been a pretty good season for the lions. 2 games is a fair suspension. It's not like he actually hurt anyone. Dietrich-Smith (the "victim" of this horrendous crime) said it was just part of football, and it wasn't like he was injured by the terrible "stomp." (also known as a kick to his arm). I'm sure he was grinning ear to ear, because Suh's stupid penalty and ejection was the tipping point in what was, up until that point, a competitive game.

Suh is just a guy that people love to hate, and it has everything to do with him being an incredibly dominant, new player. He's a young guy, and needs to get his emotions in check. I think he will especially because of the shiatstorm this latest episode caused.

/most of the "dirty" plays that people are whining about are just Suh being a dominant defensive lineman.
//Haters gonna hate.


Yeah, it's all just because he is soooo dominant doood! You sound like another dumbass drunk commentator trying to say anything but "the guy's an asshole".

It doesn't matter how good he is.
It doesn't matter if there was no injury.

The guy's a 300 lb child. Don't treat him like a man.
 
2011-11-29 01:59:28 PM  

Doogled: I'll say it again. We've had two stomping incidents this season, and both have occurred against the Packers offensive line. Coincidence? Possibly, but unlikely.


Because the Packers front office has the offensive line's families hostage at an undisclosed location. Every time one of them gives up a sack, one of their relatives are executed. Punishment for allowing harm to come to the franchise QB.
 
2011-11-29 02:00:38 PM  

ddam: I still wouldn't pencil in any wins for Chicago with their QB problems. We'll see in a few weeks where they stand.


They almost beat Oakland, even with Hanie's best attempt at handing them the game. I'm not saying the Bears are going to run the table but they're a good all around team. They're not like the Colts. They have Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks and Vikings left on their schedule (as well as Packers). The Chiefs have QB issues of their own, Palko is just as bad as Hanie. The Broncos are... well let's just say I don't buy into Tebow. The Seahawks and Vikings also just plain suck.

Now I'm not predicting they're going to run the table here but which of those teams do you think is going to be a clear victor over the Bears? Honestly, even without Cutler, I put the Bears as the slight favorite against all of those teams.
 
2011-11-29 02:02:36 PM  

kellynoel: Brees seems like a genuinely talented person - an acceptable role model. Is he as genuine and conscientious as he seems?


CSB Time!

He was the one time I met him, at his Purdue book signing. The New Orleans-themed clothing my group had on stood out among all of the Purdue merch and Brees jerseys. When we reached the front, Drew spent as much time as possible chatting with us, until his handlers had to remind him (twice) to move the line along. I think he assumed that we had traveled from NOLA, and gave us some lagniappe. It was a little thing, but definitely counted as conscientious.

/This cool story has been
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//Lagniappe passes the spellchecker. Did not expect that.
 
2011-11-29 02:02:37 PM  

Fark It: zippolight2002: They put up 200+ yards of their own, only reason they didn't get points was a couple dumb penalties and Stafford wearing those damn gloves (10INT's since he started wearing them 3 games ago btw). With a healthy Stafford and the playoffs on the line in the final game, Detroit has a decent shot at taking them down (especially if they rest Rodgers).

In summary... you're the delusional one.

Yes, I'm the delusional one, says the guy blaming Stafford's shiatty play on the gloves he has on.

/and you totally would have beaten the Bears at Soldier Field if it wasn't for that damn wind!


Really? Prior to him breaking his finger, and putting on the gloves, he had thrown 4 INT's all season. Then suddenly starts throwing 3 a game...... you honestly think that's a coincidence?
 
2011-11-29 02:02:50 PM  
I still wouldn't pencil in any wins for Chicago with their QB problems. We'll see in a few weeks where they stand.

QB Problems? Ha ha. We went to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman as QB.
 
2011-11-29 02:05:27 PM  

spentmiles: At 5'10 and 180 pounds, I was only able to play at Nebraska because my family owned the farmland behind the university. Our land is 1500 acres, and I bet you couldn't go out there with a shovel and get one scoop of dirt that didn't have little bones in it, kid bones, Suh's victim's bones. The guy was going through twenty, twenty-five kids a day while he was there. The coaches thought it was funny and forced the rest of the team to bury their little, lifeless, mangled bodies in shallow, unmarked graves. Suh still goes back to pick up a shed once in a while and smash it onto a kid for old time's sack. Guy needs to be fired into the sun, because the amount of evil in his body would poison whole states around his grave.


Holy crap you're awesome.

/Aren't you the same guy that rode a mile long wheelie at 85mph on your motorcycle with a deer smashed into the front end? If so, let's be friends.
 
2011-11-29 02:05:32 PM  

myinternetname: I'm not a fan of Fat Albert, but him getting 5 games as a first time offender and Suh getting 2 games is some bullchit man.


Fat Albert stomped on a man's exposed head. He should have been kicked out of the league. What Suh did was stupid but it wasn't anywhere hear the level of what Haynesworth did.
 
2011-11-29 02:05:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.


$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.
 
2011-11-29 02:06:13 PM  

lennavan: ddam: I still wouldn't pencil in any wins for Chicago with their QB problems. We'll see in a few weeks where they stand.

They almost beat Oakland, even with Hanie's best attempt at handing them the game. I'm not saying the Bears are going to run the table but they're a good all around team. They're not like the Colts. They have Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks and Vikings left on their schedule (as well as Packers). The Chiefs have QB issues of their own, Palko is just as bad as Hanie. The Broncos are... well let's just say I don't buy into Tebow. The Seahawks and Vikings also just plain suck.

Now I'm not predicting they're going to run the table here but which of those teams do you think is going to be a clear victor over the Bears? Honestly, even without Cutler, I put the Bears as the slight favorite against all of those teams.


Well, you choose to look at the Raiders game in a positive light. I see it more like "they couldn't even beat the Raiders, a team that has a starting QB that was sitting on a couch until 3 weeks ago and their best running back is inactive. Yes, Bush is a good replacement but he's not McFadden".

If a team that's supposed to make the playoffs cannot beat a team that only scores field goals how good are they really? All it takes if for a team to score 2 quick TDs in first quarter and Chicago has to abandon the run and I think that any team in NFL no matter how good can score due to mistakes. And Hanie makes plenty of mistakes.
 
2011-11-29 02:06:17 PM  

Misplaced yat: kellynoel: Brees seems like a genuinely talented person - an acceptable role model. Is he as genuine and conscientious as he seems?

CSB Time!

He was the one time I met him, at his Purdue book signing. The New Orleans-themed clothing my group had on stood out among all of the Purdue merch and Brees jerseys. When we reached the front, Drew spent as much time as possible chatting with us, until his handlers had to remind him (twice) to move the line along. I think he assumed that we had traveled from NOLA, and gave us some lagniappe. It was a little thing, but definitely counted as conscientious.

/This cool story has been
[www.asb.unsw.edu.au image 150x150]

//Lagniappe passes the spellchecker. Did not expect that.


Brees is a nice guy, and an Austinite. I met him at Brackenridge hospital a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills.
 
2011-11-29 02:09:09 PM  
I am a bit confused about the outrage over a little kick/stomp at an opposing player. Fine him, suspend him, whatever, but the (manufactured?) OUTRAGE seems pretty over the top for a pretty tame incident.
 
2011-11-29 02:10:42 PM  

zippolight2002: Fark It: zippolight2002: They put up 200+ yards of their own, only reason they didn't get points was a couple dumb penalties and Stafford wearing those damn gloves (10INT's since he started wearing them 3 games ago btw). With a healthy Stafford and the playoffs on the line in the final game, Detroit has a decent shot at taking them down (especially if they rest Rodgers).

In summary... you're the delusional one.

Yes, I'm the delusional one, says the guy blaming Stafford's shiatty play on the gloves he has on.

/and you totally would have beaten the Bears at Soldier Field if it wasn't for that damn wind!

Really? Prior to him breaking his finger, and putting on the gloves, he had thrown 4 INT's all season. Then suddenly starts throwing 3 a game...... you honestly think that's a coincidence?


If it was as simple as a glove it would have been fixed already. The Lions lost Jahvid Best for the season and became one-dimensional, exposing Stafford. Their only threat on offense is Stafford-Megatron, and teams are ready for that. The Lions had a soft first half to start the season, and now without a significant run game against tougher opponents who have more film on Stafford they're getting blown up by opposing secondaries. When you put the ball up in the air 40, 50 times in a game you will throw interceptions, even to teams that don't have great passing defenses.
 
2011-11-29 02:10:54 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Carousel Beast: Hector Remarkable: Wait s minute, if people are agreeing with me I should probably re-think this.
Maybe he just needs a hug, and some special "me"-time.

Sigh. It's not that simple.

NFL players have been taught all or their adult lives - and usually all of their adolescence as well - that you solve problems on the field with violence. Most of them can separate that our pretty well and know when to draw the line, but some can't. Suh isn't out there premeditating on what he's going to do; he's met a violent problem and is escalating the violence in his response. He needs to be punished, definitely, but to go off and say his career should be over for this incident is ludicrous. If you punched out your boss tomorrow the worst that would happen is you'd lose the particular job you have.

My direct experience is with Perry Phenix (played for the Titans around 2001). he was a helluva nice guy off the field - calm, gentle, good sense of humor. But on the field he didn't know how to separate emotions out and he took everything personally - you could see him get in trouble for it darn near every week. He didn't need to have his livelihood taken away, he needed to get some counseling to learn how to deal with his emotions.

Some f the ITGs here need to learn to think rationally rather than reacting emotionally. You know,like Suh.

/Hate white-knighting Suh

You know, in some Islamic countries, I think they'd just cut off his leg.
Seriously though, I bet it comes out that he's actually ashamed of his behavior.


He might be, I dunno. But he does need help, and definitely needs to be taught that this isn't acceptable behavior.

IIRC, Phenix got dropped on year 3 and never picked back up, because NFL rules state that whoever has him year 4 has to pick up his pension. It sucks, but it's because he never learned to reign it in so teams didn't want to take a chance and be stuck with a recurring bill.
 
2011-11-29 02:12:05 PM  

SlagginOff: Detroit sports fans showing their true colors in this thread. Suh belongs in that shiathole of a city.

And unless Detroit sports fans can stop acting like complete jackasses when they move to a real city, they should all just stay in that shiathole of a city as well. We will not miss your presence.


Fortunately we have you to set an example for us, classy Chicago guy.
 
2011-11-29 02:14:04 PM  

Fark It: zippolight2002: Fark It: zippolight2002: They put up 200+ yards of their own, only reason they didn't get points was a couple dumb penalties and Stafford wearing those damn gloves (10INT's since he started wearing them 3 games ago btw). With a healthy Stafford and the playoffs on the line in the final game, Detroit has a decent shot at taking them down (especially if they rest Rodgers).

In summary... you're the delusional one.

Yes, I'm the delusional one, says the guy blaming Stafford's shiatty play on the gloves he has on.

/and you totally would have beaten the Bears at Soldier Field if it wasn't for that damn wind!

Really? Prior to him breaking his finger, and putting on the gloves, he had thrown 4 INT's all season. Then suddenly starts throwing 3 a game...... you honestly think that's a coincidence?

If it was as simple as a glove it would have been fixed already. The Lions lost Jahvid Best for the season and became one-dimensional, exposing Stafford. Their only threat on offense is Stafford-Megatron, and teams are ready for that. The Lions had a soft first half to start the season, and now without a significant run game against tougher opponents who have more film on Stafford they're getting blown up by opposing secondaries. When you put the ball up in the air 40, 50 times in a game you will throw interceptions, even to teams that don't have great passing defenses.


I think you missed the part about "breaking his finger".
 
2011-11-29 02:17:36 PM  

pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.


I had that written in there, then took it out because it pissed me off so much.

Let's See:
$40M/5 years = $8M a year
$8M/16 games = $500,000 a game
$500G x 2 missed (but guaranteed to be paid) games = $1M

So he's being paid $1 million to sit on his ass/practice for 2 weeks (well minus the paltry fines they throw at him for acting like an ass).

That's not even bringing in the other $28 million in the contract, but not guaranteed.
 
2011-11-29 02:17:39 PM  

ddam: Well, you choose to look at the Raiders game in a positive light. I see it more like "they couldn't even beat the Raiders, a team that has a starting QB that was sitting on a couch until 3 weeks ago and their best running back is inactive. Yes, Bush is a good replacement but he's not McFadden".


The Raiders, as they currently are, are a better team than the Seahawks, Vikings and Broncos. If the Bears kept it close with the Raiders, they'll keep it close with each of those teams.

ddam: If a team that's supposed to make the playoffs cannot beat a team that only scores field goals how good are they really?


How good is a team that holds the opponents to pretty much only field goals, even when their QB is throwing more balls to the other team than his own? Uh, I'd say that's a pretty farking good defense, wouldn't you?

ddam: All it takes if for a team to score 2 quick TDs in first quarter


Couldn't agree more. But we're talking about the Bears defense. That's a mighty farking big if, don't you think? I mean, an astronomically large if. The Bears are not good because of their offense, the Bears are good because of their defense and special teams. Their defense and special teams are still fully intact.

ddam: And Hanie makes plenty of mistakes.


He made a ton of mistakes against Oakland and yet the Bears kept it close. Hanie doesn't have to be good, he doesn't even have to be average. He just needs to not fark up as much. He can still be a fark up but not a 3 interception fark up.
 
2011-11-29 02:18:17 PM  
I met Drew Brees a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills. I later heard that the reason he did so was because that thing on his face in a sentient creature that must be fed with the blood of virgins.

So all you farkers, be aware. That thing has the blood lust.
 
2011-11-29 02:21:37 PM  
I met Drew Brees at a Purdue alumni dinner. We had steak au poivre with an absolutely wonderful Malbec. Later that night we drunk a bottle of Nyquil each and made sweet love.
 
2011-11-29 02:23:01 PM  

Disaster Transport: MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.

Do you want to step back and think about how many other plays would result in jail time when not on a football field?

/wow


Obviously, we care only about the violence not related to playing the game. Is there a sport where you can stomp on another player wearing cleats?
 
2011-11-29 02:23:09 PM  
While we're sharing anecdotes, I was in Nebraska years ago as part of a team of auditors performing a compliance and financial audit for a housing project and I got to see how Dirty Suh was. As is part of the testing, we select certain tenant files and review them for compliance in various areas. One of these files was Suh's. We always check the sources of income, and noted that he claimed to have several dependents but zero income. Knowing he was lying, we ended up meeting with him in the lobby of this project. To make a long story short, we had him cornered with facts, and he lost his temper when we called him on it. So he freaks out and flips the table on us, throws my stapler through a pane glass window, knocks a 14-year old kid unconsious (poor kid hit the shed HARD) and rapes my sister. We still laugh about it now, some things just seem really bad when they happen. But after reviewing the tape we realized we totally antagonized him and pretty much brought it upon ourselves.
 
2011-11-29 02:24:58 PM  

scottydoesntknow: pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.

I had that written in there, then took it out because it pissed me off so much.

Let's See:
$40M/5 years = $8M a year
$8M/16 games = $500,000 a game
$500G x 2 missed (but guaranteed to be paid) games = $1M

So he's being paid $1 million to sit on his ass/practice for 2 weeks (well minus the paltry fines they throw at him for acting like an ass).

That's not even bringing in the other $28 million in the contract, but not guaranteed.


Actually, he gets paid nothing and is banned from the practice facilities until he's reinstated.....
 
2011-11-29 02:25:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.

I had that written in there, then took it out because it pissed me off so much.

Let's See:
$40M/5 years = $8M a year
$8M/16 games = $500,000 a game
$500G x 2 missed (but guaranteed to be paid) games = $1M

So he's being paid $1 million to sit on his ass/practice for 2 weeks (well minus the paltry fines they throw at him for acting like an ass).

That's not even bringing in the other $28 million in the contract, but not guaranteed.


And he only gets paid $82,000 a game iirc. So i don't know where you got your numbers from.
 
2011-11-29 02:28:14 PM  
I can see most of the girly men on this thread never watched the Raiders in the 70's. Suh is a lightweight.

/I don't see the "outrage" here
//not a lions fan
 
2011-11-29 02:28:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.

I had that written in there, then took it out because it pissed me off so much.

Let's See:
$40M/5 years = $8M a year
$8M/16 games = $500,000 a game
$500G x 2 missed (but guaranteed to be paid) games = $1M

So he's being paid $1 million to sit on his ass/practice for 2 weeks (well minus the paltry fines they throw at him for acting like an ass).

That's not even bringing in the other $28 million in the contract, but not guaranteed.


Scotty doesn't know how NFL suspensions work?
 
2011-11-29 02:30:13 PM  

YonderScott: I can see most of the girly men on this thread never watched the Raiders in the 70's. Suh is a lightweight.

/I don't see the "outrage" here
//not a lions fan


The game has changed since the 70s but even if that wasn't true, at least the old school Raider players took pride in their dirty play and used it to intimidate opponents. Suh wants to intimidate opponents but then acts like a pussy after the game.
 
2011-11-29 02:31:12 PM  
Weird. I was on the phone with Hank Paulson in 2008 when we heard Lehman had went under. So anyway, Paulson starts telling me about how this investment banker from BNP named Suh turned on Bart [McDade] to subprime mortgages. I was warning Goldman and all them about this kind of investment -- very seductive but just too dangerous. Suh knew it all along. After that, I knew how dirty he was. Just took his cut from the Lehman deals and walked away untouched.
 
2011-11-29 02:35:50 PM  
I was in Nebraska years ago doing IT work. We had a temporary structure erected alongside the football field where we kept a lot of our equipment. So one day I was in the shed (as we called it) working on a server, when this kid, couldn't be more than 14, came crashing in through the wall. Then this meathead stomped on into the debris and slammed the poor kid's head against a UPS. Then he derided my technical skills and bit my wiener.
 
2011-11-29 02:38:15 PM  

muck4doo: Brees is a nice guy, and an Austinite. I met him at Brackenridge hospital a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills.


Excellent work. A.

halfof33: I met Drew Brees a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills. I later heard that the reason he did so was because that thing on his face in a sentient creature that must be fed with the blood of virgins.

So all you farkers, be aware. That thing has the blood lust.


Inferior work, and beaten to the punch. D+.

Beluga Heights: I met Drew Brees at a Purdue alumni dinner. We had steak au poivre with an absolutely wonderful Malbec. Later that night we drunk a bottle of Nyquil each and made sweet love.


Fails to invoke mirth, but bonus points for showing enough creativity to deviate from the shed meme. B-.
 
2011-11-29 02:40:07 PM  

lennavan: ddam: Well, you choose to look at the Raiders game in a positive light. I see it more like "they couldn't even beat the Raiders, a team that has a starting QB that was sitting on a couch until 3 weeks ago and their best running back is inactive. Yes, Bush is a good replacement but he's not McFadden".

The Raiders, as they currently are, are a better team than the Seahawks, Vikings and Broncos. If the Bears kept it close with the Raiders, they'll keep it close with each of those teams.

ddam: If a team that's supposed to make the playoffs cannot beat a team that only scores field goals how good are they really?

How good is a team that holds the opponents to pretty much only field goals, even when their QB is throwing more balls to the other team than his own? Uh, I'd say that's a pretty farking good defense, wouldn't you?

ddam: All it takes if for a team to score 2 quick TDs in first quarter

Couldn't agree more. But we're talking about the Bears defense. That's a mighty farking big if, don't you think? I mean, an astronomically large if. The Bears are not good because of their offense, the Bears are good because of their defense and special teams. Their defense and special teams are still fully intact.

ddam: And Hanie makes plenty of mistakes.

He made a ton of mistakes against Oakland and yet the Bears kept it close. Hanie doesn't have to be good, he doesn't even have to be average. He just needs to not fark up as much. He can still be a fark up but not a 3 interception fark up.


It doesn't work like that. Otherwise the Ravens wouldn't have lost to Seahawks after whooping the Steelers and Saints wouldn't have lost to Rams.

All in all, as a Cowboys fan I'm loving the problems that I see out of Chicago and Detroit. It makes it a bit more likely that the Cowboys will make the playoffs even if the Giants somehow ressurect their season.
 
2011-11-29 02:40:33 PM  

zippolight2002: Where we watching the same Thanksgiving day game? IIRC they held the Packers to less than 100yds of offense in the first half (something no other team has done this year). They put up 200+ yards of their own, only reason they didn't get points was a couple dumb penalties and Stafford wearing those damn gloves (10INT's since he started wearing them 3 games ago btw). With a healthy Stafford and the playoffs on the line in the final game, Detroit has a decent shot at taking them down (especially if they rest Rodgers).


First of all, I should be clear that I do think the Lions have a chance against Green Bay. Hell, any team has a chance against any other team in the NFL, not to mention a playoff contender like the Lions.

But, your argument seems to be "if the Lions played perfectly and no one was injured we could have won". Right, of course. But that's rarely, if ever, going to happen and you have to be able to win when players (including your QB) are injured and dumb plays are being made. I'm OK with you saying "when Stafford is healthy we'll have a better shot", but you can't discount dumb penalties as if they're some freak occurrence that won't happen next time. Maybe next time Randall Cobb and Finley won't drop sure TD passes. If you're going to play the "without our mistakes we win" game know that it goes both ways.
 
2011-11-29 02:40:40 PM  

Misplaced yat: muck4doo: Brees is a nice guy, and an Austinite. I met him at Brackenridge hospital a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills.

Excellent work. A.

halfof33: I met Drew Brees a few years ago. He was visiting some poor 14 year old kid who had been flown over from Nebraska and needed a bunch of surgeries. Some asshole threw him through a shed wall. Brees covered all his bills. I later heard that the reason he did so was because that thing on his face in a sentient creature that must be fed with the blood of virgins.

So all you farkers, be aware. That thing has the blood lust.

Inferior work, and beaten to the punch. D+.

Beluga Heights: I met Drew Brees at a Purdue alumni dinner. We had steak au poivre with an absolutely wonderful Malbec. Later that night we drunk a bottle of Nyquil each and made sweet love.

Fails to invoke mirth, but bonus points for showing enough creativity to deviate from the shed meme. B-.


A B- hell yeah! It's college all over again.
 
2011-11-29 02:42:53 PM  

scottydoesntknow: pete1729: scottydoesntknow: That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

$40m, Suh's guarunteed contract, if paid in $100 bills would weigh about four and a half tons.

I had that written in there, then took it out because it pissed me off so much.

Let's See:
$40M/5 years = $8M a year
$8M/16 games = $500,000 a game
$500G x 2 missed (but guaranteed to be paid) games = $1M

So he's being paid $1 million to sit on his ass/practice for 2 weeks (well minus the paltry fines they throw at him for acting like an ass).

That's not even bringing in the other $28 million in the contract, but not guaranteed.


The takeaway here is that the team is being punished. Which perhaps is the most astonishing thing. The NFL is effectively fining the team a million dollars and giving it to Suh. That sends a crazy message.
 
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