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2011-11-29 01:08:20 PM
The Lions will also be fined $50,000 by the league, because the team has exceeded $100,000 in fines this season. The team fine won't be calculated or assessed until the end of the season.


If they know the amount, hasn't it already been calculated?
 
SH
2011-11-29 01:08:41 PM

Borkoman: Dirty or not, the man makes other teams fear Detroit's defense.


Not any more.
 
2011-11-29 01:08:57 PM

ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...


Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....
 
2011-11-29 01:09:12 PM
I see that the bloodlusters who want Suh's head on a platter have come out in full force in this thread. Jesus.

What he did was stupid, and his explanation was even more stupid. And he's completely f'ing up what could have been a pretty good season for the lions. 2 games is a fair suspension. It's not like he actually hurt anyone. Dietrich-Smith (the "victim" of this horrendous crime) said it was just part of football, and it wasn't like he was injured by the terrible "stomp." (also known as a kick to his arm). I'm sure he was grinning ear to ear, because Suh's stupid penalty and ejection was the tipping point in what was, up until that point, a competitive game.

Suh is just a guy that people love to hate, and it has everything to do with him being an incredibly dominant, new player. He's a young guy, and needs to get his emotions in check. I think he will especially because of the shiatstorm this latest episode caused.

/most of the "dirty" plays that people are whining about are just Suh being a dominant defensive lineman.
//Haters gonna hate.
 
2011-11-29 01:11:00 PM
Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.
 
2011-11-29 01:11:01 PM

scottydoesntknow: pete1729: So you want a bunch of pussies on your team? A large number of players are borderline sociopaths. Who else is going to take that kind of punishment?

Hahahaha gotta love how if you're not illegally stomping on some guy on the ground, you're an automatic pussy. How about no cheap ass shots. Is that so hard? I saw plenty of bone crushing hits that were completely legal, why not try and release your anger then, not by stomping your cleat down on a defenseless man.

And also how about no retarded showboating in the endzone for doing your job too. I loved when the announcer just went off the wall on Sunday in regards to the celebration dances.

Jacobs was the absolute worst last night though. You're down 3-21 and you finally get in the endzone. Why not do a retarded 50 second dance routine to celebrate still being down by 11 points? I wanted the Giants to lose horribly after that.


Of course I'm not advocating cheap shots, but jeez, we pay a huge, brilliantly fast guy millions of dollars to mess other people up and then act surprised when he goes over the line. I am generally apalled by what passes for sportsmanship.

Also; WhoDat!
 
2011-11-29 01:13:38 PM

Carousel Beast: Hector Remarkable: Wait s minute, if people are agreeing with me I should probably re-think this.
Maybe he just needs a hug, and some special "me"-time.

Sigh. It's not that simple.

NFL players have been taught all or their adult lives - and usually all of their adolescence as well - that you solve problems on the field with violence. Most of them can separate that our pretty well and know when to draw the line, but some can't. Suh isn't out there premeditating on what he's going to do; he's met a violent problem and is escalating the violence in his response. He needs to be punished, definitely, but to go off and say his career should be over for this incident is ludicrous. If you punched out your boss tomorrow the worst that would happen is you'd lose the particular job you have.

My direct experience is with Perry Phenix (played for the Titans around 2001). he was a helluva nice guy off the field - calm, gentle, good sense of humor. But on the field he didn't know how to separate emotions out and he took everything personally - you could see him get in trouble for it darn near every week. He didn't need to have his livelihood taken away, he needed to get some counseling to learn how to deal with his emotions.

Some f the ITGs here need to learn to think rationally rather than reacting emotionally. You know,like Suh.

/Hate white-knighting Suh


You know, in some Islamic countries, I think they'd just cut off his leg.
Seriously though, I bet it comes out that he's actually ashamed of his behavior.
 
2011-11-29 01:14:22 PM

I Said: Now they have some success, and let's be honest: It's pretty f*cking modest success, and you Detroit fans turn into raging cocks.


Those of us who are hockey fans know that Detroit fans are raging cocks all of the time. You just let your pity for the football team blind you to it.

/ Tho they aren't as bad as Flyers fans
// Neither were the Nazis
 
2011-11-29 01:14:59 PM

Balchinian: jst3p: Balchinian: Desquamation: Balchinian: And not a single fark was given that day.

You must be in the wrong thread.

Why? Because I don't care about Suh or what the NFL decided his punishment was?

No, because the statement "not a single fark was given" implies that it is a non-issue to most people, and that is clearly not the case. Maybe YOU don't give a fark but clearly most football fans do.

Yes, they do, but my point is why? If it changes nothing of any importance or significance, then it doesn't matter and therefore there is no logical reason to care. Moving on...


Gunny Highway:
Because it hurts the Lions playoff chances?

The Lions were not going to go anywhere in the post-season anyway, and you know it. Try again.


Oh okay.

Why are you hear again? I mean on Fark.
 
2011-11-29 01:15:03 PM

stevenboof: Fark It: That bandwagon must feel nice, but try not to post from it without sounding like a complete farking moron.

I can take all the rest of your ignorant spiel about how playing KC, DEN, SEA, and MIN are somehow a tougher schedule than NO, MIN, OAK, and SD,


Oh god, the reading comprehension, it hurts. The discussion was not about the strength of schedule down the stretch, it was about the likelihood of appearing in the postseason given the remaining opponents.

but you're a farking cock freckle for calling me a bandwagoner.

I apologize. It's been so long since Detroit has been relevant that even lifelong Lions fans don't know how to talk about playoff scenarios.

Typical Bears fan, has to resort to name-calling when you get called on your bullshiat. BTW, twat waffle, the Packers may be resting their guys for Week 17 if they already have home-field advantage for the Playoffs, so don't rule out a Lions win there, they beat them last year without Rodgers.

If they're playing for undefeated they won't be resting their starters. Even if they have a loss they're not necessarily going to roll over for a division rival (a despised one at that) whose star player stomped on one of their own.
 
2011-11-29 01:16:01 PM

Chummer45: I see that the bloodlusters who want Suh's head on a platter have come out in full force in this thread. Jesus.

What he did was stupid, and his explanation was even more stupid. And he's completely f'ing up what could have been a pretty good season for the lions. 2 games is a fair suspension. It's not like he actually hurt anyone. Dietrich-Smith (the "victim" of this horrendous crime) said it was just part of football, and it wasn't like he was injured by the terrible "stomp." (also known as a kick to his arm). I'm sure he was grinning ear to ear, because Suh's stupid penalty and ejection was the tipping point in what was, up until that point, a competitive game.

Suh is just a guy that people love to hate, and it has everything to do with him being an incredibly dominant, new player. He's a young guy, and needs to get his emotions in check. I think he will especially because of the shiatstorm this latest episode caused.

/most of the "dirty" plays that people are whining about are just Suh being a dominant defensive lineman.
//Haters gonna hate.


Sometimes punishments are meted out against people other than the offender. If Suh gets away with a slap on the wrist for what he did, then what's the next "Suh" going to do? Stomp on a guy's head? Break an arm?

Suh should have been made an example of for all the dumbshiats who want to play like Suh.
 
2011-11-29 01:16:05 PM

Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....


They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).
 
2011-11-29 01:16:38 PM

LesserEvil: Amazing to see how many Farkers absolutely hate the Lions' success.

Suh got 2 games, which is about right for the offense that occurred. Hainsworth got 5 games (not a lifetime ban) for a HEAD STOMP that resulted in a nasty injury, where Suh got 2 games for a stomp at (not really on) an arm that resulted in, well, no harm at all to the player.

The head shoving? That's not unusual, many players will tell you that (and did in commenting on the whole mess). It's probably worth a flag for three shoves, but not further consideration beyond that.

Idiots calling for Suh to be banned for life are really insanely stupid, just like jackasses calling for the Death Penalty at Penn State... they are simply doing it out of hate for the organization, not out of any reasonable, intelligent logic.

I disliked his post-game statement, but you also have to consider his emotions were still running high from being thrown out of the game. Suh is normally a well spoken guy, and we can't know what was running through his head... but as a Lions fan, I was disappointed; but the "emotional" explanation other players and commentators have given makes the most sense there. Don't expect an apology to the player from Suh - his anger probably had context, as Green Bay was getting away with holds, many obvious, during the game... doesn't excuse losing your cool and doing stupid crap, but it gives context.

jdjoker: you know, the guy whose head he actually slammed

Really? More like jammed a couple of inches. As I noted above, many NFL players have said that defensive players do that to "make a statement" and it's more theater than effect. If your player can't handle that, maybe they are in the wrong line of work, geez. Fans need to stop transferring their own baby-ness onto their players.

Please note I'm not making excuses... Suh got penalized, thrown out of the game and suspended two games. I think that is about the right measure for his actions during and following the game. I just think anybody crying here for more are simply being irrational and deluded.


What "success" are you talking about? Play a damn playoff game and then get back to me.
 
2011-11-29 01:17:03 PM

pete1729: Wettner: Hector Remarkable: I take the word "professional" seriously myself, even in professional sports.

There is no excuse for this. He should be banned from the NFL for life. Period.
You act like that, you're out.

I fully endorse this. It is a privilege to work in the NFL and to act like a thug on or off the field should result in banishment from the sport.

So you want a bunch of pussies on your team? A large number of players are borderline sociopaths. Who else is going to take that kind of punishment?


If only there was a career choice that allowed one to stomp someone without consequences.
 
2011-11-29 01:18:49 PM

ddam: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).


You're right. The Lions could win out and make it in. The Packers could also lose out and miss the playoffs entirely. Both scenarios are entirely reasonable and plausible....
 
2011-11-29 01:19:12 PM

ddam: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).


And just so we're clear, I'm not a Detroit fan. I'm a Cowboys fan and would love nothing more than to see Bears and Lions lose all their remaining games.
 
2011-11-29 01:19:34 PM

SkittlesAreYum:

So you care so little you entered this thread to tell everyone how little you care, and then came back to explain why you care so little in an attempt to convince others to care as little as you. Yep, you sure don't care.


Ah, you think I am trolling. I see. Sorry to disappoint you, but it is precisely because I don't care that I came in here. I wanted to find out whether there was something I was missing, or not understanding, that might cause me to think that it mattered after all. So far, I still don't see why it matters or why so many people do care. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me.
 
2011-11-29 01:20:06 PM

MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.


Do you want to step back and think about how many other plays would result in jail time when not on a football field?

/wow
 
2011-11-29 01:20:33 PM

MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.


So much this.

Maybe Arenas and Critteton should bring their guns out on court. Fark 4 periods.
 
2011-11-29 01:21:09 PM

dfxdeimos: What an idiotic suggestion. Attitudes like yours are the reason the NFL has become so incredibly pussified.


Nah, liability for injuries is the reason the NFL has become 'pussified'. It's no coincidence that the league has put a large emphasis on head injury treatment lately, just after lots of new reports of retired players having mental issues, especially lineman. The NFL could easily be held responsible for these injuries, so they are making rules that will protect them from being sued.

Of course, I'm sure there are enough retired players with brain trauma to bankrupt the NFL should they ever decide to sue.

Speaking of Suh, he should have been suspended for the rest of the year.
 
2011-11-29 01:21:14 PM
Thanks for making my team's job a little easier, Suh.

/wouldn't get out of town alive if he tried that shiat with Drew
 
2011-11-29 01:21:34 PM

Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....


Okay. The Lions could go 11-5 if Stafford gets hurt, and then Hill gets hurt, and then Drew Stanton leads the Lions to a courageous victory over a resting Green Bay team in their final game of the season because Green Bay could have lost to um the Giants (question mark) and are no longer playing for a perfect season. Or, they could get in by going 10-6 if the Bears could go ahead and lose to Denver, Seattle, and Green Bay. Or if the Falcons would like to crap their pants instead of the Bears, they could lose to Houston, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. I'll play all this out on Tecmo Bowl and let you know how it goes.
 
2011-11-29 01:22:29 PM

Fark It: ddam: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).

You're right. The Lions could win out and make it in. The Packers could also lose out and miss the playoffs entirely. Both scenarios are entirely reasonable and plausible....


I think the Packers are in even if they lose the rest of their games.

However, if I had to make a bet today (real money not online posts like you) as to which team would make the playoffs between Chicago or Detroit I'd pick Detroit and put a medium wager on it (medium on my scale where my bets range from $10 to $250)
 
2011-11-29 01:23:28 PM

The Bestest: FreakinB: All_Farked_Up: Typical slap on the wrist

I don't count 1/8 of the season as a slap on the wrist. Multiple-game suspensions are rare in the NFL unless you're Pacman Jones or something.

Right. This would be the equivalent of a 10 game suspension in the NBA or a 20 game one in MLB.

scottydoesntknow: When you're voted "Dirtiest player in the NFL" by everyone in the NFL, that's saying a lot.

John Stockton often got this honor in the NBA back in the day. Should he have been expelled?


Hell yes, he and Malone should have been suspended multiple times (Malone was dirtier than Stockton, and he actually sent more people to the hospital).
 
2011-11-29 01:24:01 PM
Anybody watch Shannon Sharpe describe his time in the NFL as a response to this on Sunday? He said when you have the ball on the bottom of pile you are taught to curl up and close your eyes and mouth because everybody is going for an eye gouge or mouth yank. It was kind of normal and when they didnt have such video coverage like they do today it was easy to get away with. And Marino gave a shout out to Romanowski for being the dirtiest in his experience.

I'm not defending Donkey Kong Suh, but the over-reaction on this is pretty crazy to me. I remember playing back yard football with friends and after a particularly hard tackle or a failed play of some kind you'd get up and out of frustration and kick somebody's foot or leg if they were still on the ground. You didnt do it to actually harm someone and you didnt kick hard enough to do it. It was just out of frustration. His kick to the arm never looked like it had any kind of power behind it to actually break the guys upper arm or even leave a cleat mark. He was frustrated and acted out. That's what rookies do. And it is definitely worth a suspension so that it never happens again or escalates beyond that.

I agree with the 2 game suspension. There is a rule in the NFL that says when a fine exceeds $100,000 the remainder is paid by the team, not the player. Fine amounts include per-game salary loss from suspensions from penalties so giving him the rest of the year or 4+ games, etc. means the team pays the remainder of whatever went over $100K. And no, i didnt make that up. I'm trying to remember the broadcaster who explained it during the pre-game coverage, but he is the go-to guy on league legal details when stuff like this happens. (it's driving me crazy i cant come up with his name and it's not John Clayton but an older guy with dark hair.)

I was kind of shocked when i learned the cap was $100k. I thought it should have been higher. I think the idea was that if a fine is so egregious it also reflects on the team and they pay their part. I'm guessing it's supposed to be a deterrent to the team so that they will make sure their players play fair. This poutrage from the sports media is just capitalizing on a mistake and giving it overly zealous coverage. I hope it lost in conversation inside of a week.
 
2011-11-29 01:24:05 PM
Two games isn't enough. It needs to be the rest of the season. He doesn't have enough sportsmanship to play this sport.

/lifelong Lions fan
 
2011-11-29 01:24:24 PM
I was a Cornhusker equipment manager and I got to see how Dirty Suh was on several occasions (thankfully I was never on the receiving end). The guy got into actual fights with practically everyone on the team, not just scraps but real brawls with haymakers being thrown. They actually had some of the alumni team members from the 90s come in and played like a scrimmage game once, and Suh was even going after some of the players from the 90s. At one point he stomped on Tommy Frazier's heart. There were some spectators at the scrimmage too, one of them was a 14 year old kid that Suh had beef with after throwing him through a wall or something. Suh ends up pounding on this kid, meanwhile Christian Peter rapes the kids little sister. Then Lawrence Phillips runs the kid over with his car. Suh, Peter and Phillips went out for beers afterwards. No one knows what happened to the kids.
 
2011-11-29 01:24:26 PM

Disaster Transport: MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.

Do you want to step back and think about how many other plays would result in jail time when not on a football field?

/wow


What is the name of the play Suh executed? The Post-Whistle Stomp with Head-Bashing Triple Option?

Plays occur before the whistle.
 
2011-11-29 01:27:17 PM

pete1729: Of course I'm not advocating cheap shots, but jeez, we pay a huge, brilliantly fast guy millions of dollars to mess other people up and then act surprised when he goes over the line. I am generally apalled by what passes for sportsmanship.

Also; WhoDat!


That's the exact problem though. We're paying these guys millions of dollars, they should be expected to stay within the lines, maybe even toe it a little bit, but not cross it. If these guys were out there smashing each other to put a dinner plate on the table for their family that night, I could see emotions playing a part in it. But no, he's being handed bagfuls of money to knock down guys holding a ball.

We have close to 400 million people in this country and I can damn well guarantee there are a couple thousand people that could play just as well as Suh, and not be a complete douche on the field at the same time.

All this does is give Suh a two week paid vacation, it's like a paid suspension for a crooked cop (he has $40 mil guaranteed for 5 years)

/And for the record, I think Haynesworth should've been banned too. Probably would've made Suh think twice before stomping.
 
2011-11-29 01:27:36 PM

Hi I'm Lauren: are no longer playing for a perfect season.



i wonder how much that possible goal is in play at this point or if the Pack are more focused on a playoff run. a guy on jim rome show yesterday i think said he absolutely wants 16-0. credit to him for being honest but the ring is the thing, innit?

/and hey. long time no see. hope you and yours are being cool.
 
2011-11-29 01:27:45 PM

Hi I'm Lauren: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

Okay. The Lions could go 11-5 if Stafford gets hurt, and then Hill gets hurt, and then Drew Stanton leads the Lions to a courageous victory over a resting Green Bay team in their final game of the season because Green Bay could have lost to um the Giants (question mark) and are no longer playing for a perfect season. Or, they could get in by going 10-6 if the Bears could go ahead and lose to Denver, Seattle, and Green Bay. Or if the Falcons would like to crap their pants instead of the Bears, they could lose to Houston, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. I'll play all this out on Tecmo Bowl and let you know how it goes.


At 10-6 the Lions need the Falcons and Bears to shiat the bed (badly) to get in. I don't see Chicago losing at home against Seattle, even with Caleb Hanie and Mike Martz at the helm, the defense is too good. Denver is questionable, but I see Denver as not quite as good as Oakland (Palmer > Tebow), and the Bears offense not playing as poorly as they did last Sunday, so I'll give the edge to the Bears.
 
2011-11-29 01:27:48 PM
So much butthurt in this thread. To the "ban Suh for life" crowd, take down this number:

iamhilarious.com
 
2011-11-29 01:27:50 PM

you are a puppet: I was a Cornhusker equipment manager and I got to see how Dirty Suh was on several occasions (thankfully I was never on the receiving end). The guy got into actual fights with practically everyone on the team, not just scraps but real brawls with haymakers being thrown. They actually had some of the alumni team members from the 90s come in and played like a scrimmage game once, and Suh was even going after some of the players from the 90s. At one point he stomped on Tommy Frazier's heart. There were some spectators at the scrimmage too, one of them was a 14 year old kid that Suh had beef with after throwing him through a wall or something. Suh ends up pounding on this kid, meanwhile Christian Peter rapes the kids little sister. Then Lawrence Phillips runs the kid over with his car. Suh, Peter and Phillips went out for beers afterwards. No one knows what happened to the kids.


I hope this catches on.
 
2011-11-29 01:28:58 PM

CheatCommando: I Said: Now they have some success, and let's be honest: It's pretty f*cking modest success, and you Detroit fans turn into raging cocks.

Those of us who are hockey fans know that Detroit fans are raging cocks all of the time. You just let your pity for the football team blind you to it.

/ Tho they aren't as bad as Flyers fans
// Neither were the Nazis


Woah there. Nazis and Flyers fans are far apart by comparison.

Montreal fans however......
 
2011-11-29 01:30:37 PM

stevenboof: I can take all the rest of your ignorant spiel about how playing KC, DEN, SEA, and MIN are somehow a tougher schedule than NO, MIN, OAK, and SD, but you're a farking cock freckle for calling me a bandwagoner.


He said Bears have the comparatively easier schedule, which doesn't seem ignorant looking at remaining strength of schedule.

Typical Bears fan,

I am a Bears fan, and you are a Detroit Lions fan. This does not make one of us better than the other, nor does it describe our respective intelligence levels. You are being silly if you think this is the case.

has to resort to name-calling when you get called on your bullshiat. BTW, twat waffle...

hypocrisy, or b-b-b-but he did it first?
 
2011-11-29 01:32:03 PM
The Lions will also be fined $50,000 by the league, because the team has exceeded $100,000 in fines this season.

I'm fine with getting fined for getting fined.
 
2011-11-29 01:32:42 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: MaliFinn: Idiot player pulling a douche move that would get him jail time if he weren't on the field.

So much this.

Maybe Arenas and Critteton should bring their guns out on court. Fark 4 periods.


So much none of that. No one would be in jail for kicking a guy in the arm. Every male ever born would have a jail record for a playground fight. That's pure nonsense. And guns are completely different. but terrible effort at making the analogy.

/and im saying this to a favorited
 
2011-11-29 01:34:05 PM

Elroyone: Hillary
What's funny is, the Tigers with Cobb, the Pistons with Laimbeer and Mahorn were all successful, winning teams. Intimidation is part of almost every sport. When he comes back after his suspension, quarterbacks will be twitching with fear that they might get stomped on or their head bashed into the turf. He could be clean the rest of his career and opposing teams will still be afraid.

/Yes, long time Lions fan!


Or, the quarterbacks will be excited about receiving a free 15 yards and a first down.
 
2011-11-29 01:36:06 PM
Meet the next Suh. Vontaze Burfict out of ASU. If he even makes it to the pros.
 
2011-11-29 01:37:00 PM

Fark It: At 10-6 the Lions need the Falcons and Bears to shiat the bed (badly) to get in. I don't see Chicago losing at home against Seattle, even with Caleb Hanie and Mike Martz at the helm, the defense is too good. Denver is questionable, but I see Denver as not quite as good as Oakland (Palmer > Tebow), and the Bears offense not playing as poorly as they did last Sunday, so I'll give the edge to the Bears.


All quite true, and I recognize that. The Lions playoff destiny, or non-destiny, is largely out of their hands and though that wasn't what I'd wanted for them this season, it's fun to be this far in and thinking about Detroit Lions playoff scenarios without making the Jim Mora face.
 
2011-11-29 01:37:13 PM

spentmiles: I played alongside Suh at Nebraska during the 2008 and 2009 seasons. The guy is even dirtier than you can imagine. He loved being at the bottom of piles because he could gouge eyes, squeeze wieners, and bite people until his heart's content. We played a pick-up game for charity against a high school team, and Suh grabbed their fourteen year old quarterback, picked him up over his head, and through him through the wall of the equipment shed. The only reason charges weren't filed is because Suh promised the kid's family a bunch of money when he went to the NFL. Guess what? He never paid. Guys like him belong in prison, not on the gridiron.


What was your number, walk on scrub?
 
2011-11-29 01:37:39 PM
At 5'10 and 180 pounds, I was only able to play at Nebraska because my family owned the farmland behind the university. Our land is 1500 acres, and I bet you couldn't go out there with a shovel and get one scoop of dirt that didn't have little bones in it, kid bones, Suh's victim's bones. The guy was going through twenty, twenty-five kids a day while he was there. The coaches thought it was funny and forced the rest of the team to bury their little, lifeless, mangled bodies in shallow, unmarked graves. Suh still goes back to pick up a shed once in a while and smash it onto a kid for old time's sack. Guy needs to be fired into the sun, because the amount of evil in his body would poison whole states around his grave.
 
2011-11-29 01:38:45 PM

spentmiles: I played alongside Suh at Nebraska during the 2008 and 2009 seasons. The guy is even dirtier than you can imagine. He loved being at the bottom of piles because he could gouge eyes, squeeze wieners, and bite people until his heart's content. We played a pick-up game for charity against a high school team, and Suh grabbed their fourteen year old quarterback, picked him up over his head, and through him through the wall of the equipment shed. The only reason charges weren't filed is because Suh promised the kid's family a bunch of money when he went to the NFL. Guess what? He never paid. Guys like him belong in prison, not on the gridiron.


Citation Needed.



2 games seems about right.

/Also, breaking news! Football players often do dirty things in a scrum!
//sounds dirtier than it was meant to be.
 
2011-11-29 01:38:46 PM

Hi I'm Lauren: Gunny Highway: Because it hurts the Lions playoff chances?

It only hurts their playoff chances if you thought they had a shot at beating the Saints with Suh in the line-up. I just can't muster up that kind of optimism. I guess it also hurts their playoff chances if you think they can't beat the Vikings without him but if they can't beat the Vikings maybe they're better off not trying out that whole playoff thing for another year anyway. Now please, nobody tell me otherwise about their playoff chances. Lalalalalaala.


They actually had a pretty good chance of beating Green Bay before he got ejected. The game was still in hand. Also, that penalty gave the Packers a 1st down when they could've been kicking a field goal. With the penalty the Packers got a 1st and goal and went in to score and changed up the momentum big time.

/bears fan
 
2011-11-29 01:38:47 PM

ddam: Fark It: ddam: Fark It: ddam: You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Explain to me how the Lions can make it in at 10-6 or how they can get to 11-5 with their remaining schedule. This isn't really complicated, it's math.

/shouldn't be surprised....

They are 7-4 right? 5 games left, right? So they can go anywhere from 12-4 to 7-9. That's math. The rest is conjecture (sp?).

You're right. The Lions could win out and make it in. The Packers could also lose out and miss the playoffs entirely. Both scenarios are entirely reasonable and plausible....

I think the Packers are in even if they lose the rest of their games.

However, if I had to make a bet today (real money not online posts like you) as to which team would make the playoffs between Chicago or Detroit I'd pick Detroit and put a medium wager on it (medium on my scale where my bets range from $10 to $250)


http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL.html
 
2011-11-29 01:42:11 PM

iron_city_ap: I think 3 would have been a little more appropriate, but I'm fine with 2. Lineman do stuff like that all the time, but are normally much more discrete about it.


I agree with three myself. I'd except any player who did this (one with no history of infractions) to get a 2 game suspension. Suh had already been fined and knew he was in the danger zone. So tack on a 3rd because he is a repeat offender.

/possibly a 4th for being dumb enough to lie about it after the game
//Lions fans
 
2011-11-29 01:42:13 PM

spentmiles: At 5'10 and 180 pounds, I was only able to play at Nebraska because my family owned the farmland behind the university. Our land is 1500 acres, and I bet you couldn't go out there with a shovel and get one scoop of dirt that didn't have little bones in it, kid bones, Suh's victim's bones. The guy was going through twenty, twenty-five kids a day while he was there. The coaches thought it was funny and forced the rest of the team to bury their little, lifeless, mangled bodies in shallow, unmarked graves. Suh still goes back to pick up a shed once in a while and smash it onto a kid for old time's sack. Guy needs to be fired into the sun, because the amount of evil in his body would poison whole states around his grave.


One of my favorite posts ever.
It was funny how many people were taking your Boobies seriously, too.
 
2011-11-29 01:43:18 PM
As a Husker fan who really likes Suhs style of play, that was totally bushleague, inexcusable. What an ass.
 
2011-11-29 01:43:59 PM
When I was working on my M.A. in English (Creative Writing focus) at the University of Nebraska, Suh derided one of my stories publicly. He said that the "plot employed devices more conventional than a romantic comedy" and that "the characters were so flat and one-dimensional they even lacked the substance needed to hate." He also jammed my head into my MacBook. The story went on to win an O. Henry Award.
 
2011-11-29 01:44:32 PM

mynameisdouglas: One of my favorite posts ever.
It was funny how many people were taking your Boobies seriously, too.


It's also amazing how many people haven't figured out spentmiles does this on a regular basis. It's like a sad commentary on awareness in these parts.
 
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