scottydoesntknow: I saw plenty of bone crushing hits that were completely legal, why not try and release your anger then, not by stomping your cleat down on a defenseless man.

Misplaced yat: Make it 2 games so that it can be reduced to 1 on appeal?

Whatever. Looks like he'll be out for the Saints game, which is fine by me. Suh wouldn't make it out of the Dome alive if he stomped Brees, but I'd rather him not even get the opportunity.

/Damned NFL rotation, making the game in NOLA. Would have gladly braved Detroit were it up here.
//Fist shaking!!

Brees seems like a genuinely talented person - an acceptable role model. Do you know anything about him personally? Is he as genuine and conscientious as he seems?

ddam: refs will not throw many flags for holding him unless it's so obvious that Hellen Keller would throw a flag.

Not to go all homer here but that's pretty much been the case all season.

LesserEvil: Amazing to see how many Farkers absolutely hate the Lions' success.

I don't follow the NFL very closely, so I don't have a clue what their stats are. The only time I was ever in the Detroit stadium was back in 1976 to see The Who. I've been to Raymond James Stadium in Tampa (old and new one) a total of three times -- twice to see U2, once to see Genesis. That is the extent of my involvement with the NFL.

So if Detroit is as successful as you seem to think they are, I only have your word for it (short of looking up some stats on a sport I could not possibly care less about).

That said, this one news report tells me this guy is a maniacal sociopathic thug. If he plays for Detroit, he's just another in a long list of Detroit sports thugs.

I still miss Mark Fidrych.

LL316: As a Lions fan, I'm actually glad he finally did something dirty. If you're going to be accused of something, you might as well do it. The timing of it was obviously stupid, but the action itself doesn't bother me at all. F the NFL. Tackling a quarterback does not make you dirty.

Really? I don't watch many Lions games but I do remember a game (had to look up which one) where he slammed Jake Delhome to the ground by the face mask well after the play was dead.

What gets me is that in the same breath as you hear about all of his antics from sportscasters you'll also hear how he is the nicest guy you'll ever meet. I guess that's all just an act in the hopes that his off-game demeanor will either make up for, or mask his unsportsmanlike play.

LesserEvil: Amazing to see how many Farkers absolutely hate the Lions' success.


I agree with everything you said except for this. What success? They've won 2 of their last 6 and are currently 3rd in their division.

I would've charged him with a hate crime too.

Nabb1: By all accounts of people I know who have met him, yes, he is.

I don't know why the word talented slipped in there, and can't remember what I meant to say. (He's obviously talented.) But yeah, he just seems like a great guy all-around.

mrtoadswildride: that seems a little ridiculous

But you find the notion of a fourteen-year-old quarterback on a High School team, in Nebraska, perfectly reasonable?

My friend, you are in luck today! Allow me to show you this bridge, which happens to be for sale!

LL316: As a Lions fan, I'm actually glad he finally did something dirty. If you're going to be accused of something, you might as well do it.

I know you wrote this but you didn't actually mean it. I get you're upset, I get you're mad. But relax and it's okay we all know you didn't mean it.

I'm glad he got suspended. All of this handing out fines shiat is meaningless. It isn't until you kick a player out of the game or suspend him that they'll start to pay attention. Honestly, I think the commissioner should tack on a third suspension day for the bullshiat lie Suh came out with after the game. "I was just trying to get up" or whatever. Bullshiat.

Oh, and I agree with you, when Suh pushed Cutler to the ground from behind that was a bullshiat penalty.

LesserEvil: Amazing to see how many Farkers absolutely hate the Lions' success.

Suh got 2 games, which is about right for the offense that occurred. Hainsworth got 5 games (not a lifetime ban) for a HEAD STOMP that resulted in a nasty injury, where Suh got 2 games for a stomp at (not really on) an arm that resulted in, well, no harm at all to the player.

The head shoving? That's not unusual, many players will tell you that (and did in commenting on the whole mess). It's probably worth a flag for three shoves, but not further consideration beyond that.

Idiots calling for Suh to be banned for life are really insanely stupid, just like jackasses calling for the Death Penalty at Penn State... they are simply doing it out of hate for the organization, not out of any reasonable, intelligent logic.

I disliked his post-game statement, but you also have to consider his emotions were still running high from being thrown out of the game. Suh is normally a well spoken guy, and we can't know what was running through his head... but as a Lions fan, I was disappointed; but the "emotional" explanation other players and commentators have given makes the most sense there. Don't expect an apology to the player from Suh - his anger probably had context, as Green Bay was getting away with holds, many obvious, during the game... doesn't excuse losing your cool and doing stupid crap, but it gives context.

jdjoker: you know, the guy whose head he actually slammed

Really? More like jammed a couple of inches. As I noted above, many NFL players have said that defensive players do that to "make a statement" and it's more theater than effect. If your player can't handle that, maybe they are in the wrong line of work, geez. Fans need to stop transferring their own baby-ness onto their players.

Please note I'm not making excuses... Suh got penalized, thrown out of the game and suspended two games. I think that is about the right measure for his actions during and following the game. I just think anybody crying here for more are simply being irrational and deluded.

stevenboof: Another bitter Bears fan, what a surprise.

Oh... never mind.

Cheeses H Rice: I would've charged him with a hate crime too.

The man should be put down... before he kills us all.

Cervantes3773: I think Pryor's 5-game suspension was the NFL's way of saying "if you don't leave college ball on good terms, we'll take note of that". This way, players know they can't just switch to pro if they fark up.

No, the Pryor suspension was because he tried to bypass the NFL rules concerning the Draft. He knew that he would be suspended at Ohio St before the draft (if he wasn't already suspensed) and he didn't put in the papers for it. After that, when the Ohio St coach got fired he decided to go pro. You can only be eligible for the supplemental draft if your eligibility status changes after the draft. The league said that he knew he would be suspended before the draft and his eligiblity at Ohio St did not change after the draft deadline.

Now a lot of people are confused because NFL chose the same penalty (5 weeks) that he was facing in college so a lot of people are saying that NFL carried on the NCAA penalty but that's not true. The NFL could have chosen to not make him eligible for the supplemental draft at all but Pryor accepted the 5 games penalty as a way to get in the league this year and not next year like Maurice Clarett or that WR from USC a few year ago.

Life ain't easy for a boy named Suh.

nakedcritic: There's a Sussudio joke in here somewhere

Thanks soooooooooo very much for that ear-worm.

I heard that the Lions brought in a new scout last week - Sandusky. That organization is like diving evil by zero, creating a sucking chest wound of evil, draining the hope and life out of young athletes everywhere.

Good. When it happens again -- and it will happen again -- kick him out for the rest of the season.

/Go Pack!!!

Beluga Heights: Hector Remarkable: I take the word "professional" seriously myself, even in professional sports.

There is no excuse for this. He should be banned from the NFL for life. Period.
You act like that, you're out.

I agree with you completely but we both know that'll never happen.

Professional sports are rarely if ever about sportsmanship or acting with class.

Don't you guys have a polo match to attend?

ddam:
No, the Pryor suspension was because he tried to bypass the NFL rules concerning the Draft. He knew that he would be suspended at Ohio St before the draft (if he wasn't already suspensed) and he didn't put in the papers for it. After that, when the Ohio St coach got fired he decided to go pro. You can only be eligible for the supplemental draft if your eligibility status changes after the draft. The league said that he knew he would be suspended before the draft and his eligiblity at Ohio St did not change after the draft deadline.

Now a lot of people are confused because NFL chose the same penalty (5 weeks) that he was facing in college so a lot of people are saying that NFL carried on the NCAA penalty but that's not true. The NFL could have chosen to not make him eligible for the supplemental draft at all but Pryor accepted the 5 games penalty as a way to get in the league this year and not next year like Maurice Clarett or that WR from USC a few year ago.

I consider myself "schooled"

/thanks for the info

Oh and supposedly, the staff viciously beats Suh with a white sock puppet to make him viciously violent against quarterbacks.

Balchinian: Desquamation: Balchinian: And not a single fark was given that day.

You must be in the wrong thread.

Why? Because I don't care about Suh or what the NFL decided his punishment was? Seriously, why should anyone care about it? It isn't going to change Suh, it isn't going to change the Lions, it isn't going to change the NFL, and it isn't going to change the sport of football. So why should anyone give a rat's ass?

So you care so little you entered this thread to tell everyone how little you care, and then came back to explain why you care so little in an attempt to convince others to care as little as you. Yep, you sure don't care.

He should have been banned for the season.

Someone's going to snap a guy's neck someday.

Up until last week my opinion of Suh was that he was a good guy who gets a little emotional on the field sometimes and that he gets a bad rap. Now I think that the on-field Suh is the real Suh and the off-field guy is Eddie Haskell. This of course also means that Stafford is the Beaver.

I think we're missing the real point here. Suh is conveniently suspended right before the Saints play them. A potent defense is now partially crippled against one of the best offenses in the league, and you people can't see how the fix is in? What, does God need to send another hurricane to get you people to see the Saints are clearly being ushered in to a rematch with the Packers which they'll win this time around? And...umm....Atheism is a religion! Bootstraps! The band you like is horrible and I hated them first! OBAMA!!!!

jst3p: Balchinian: Desquamation: Balchinian: And not a single fark was given that day.

You must be in the wrong thread.

Why? Because I don't care about Suh or what the NFL decided his punishment was?

No, because the statement "not a single fark was given" implies that it is a non-issue to most people, and that is clearly not the case. Maybe YOU don't give a fark but clearly most football fans do.

Yes, they do, but my point is why? If it changes nothing of any importance or significance, then it doesn't matter and therefore there is no logical reason to care. Moving on...


Gunny Highway:
Because it hurts the Lions playoff chances?

The Lions were not going to go anywhere in the post-season anyway, and you know it. Try again.

I Said: Jesus Christ. I like the Lions. I have for years because I liked Barry Sanders and always wanted this little team to finally have some success.

Now they have some success, and let's be honest: It's pretty f*cking modest success, and you Detroit fans turn into raging cocks.

"Aw sh*t you're just jealous of our wins"

No. No one is. And now I don't really think I want you folks to ever win, because god forbid you get validated, we'll never hear the end of it.

Detroit: The Philadelphia of the NFC North.

Aww.... Come on buddy. Try to keep in mind modest success for us is like winning the super bowl back to back for a decade to the rest of you.

Give us a little time to come down off this high and we'll be more reasonable.

Fark It: stevenboof: Fark It: Why would I be bitter about the Bears clearly being a better, classier team with a better shot at the playoffs than the Lions?

Because you can see the writing on the wall? You know that the NFC North is no longer just going to be about the Bears and Packers? You are coming to realize that the Bears won't have two easy wins every year to bolster their mediocre team? Do you actually think that the Bears walking vagina of a QB will take them anywhere in the future? He has proven himself a whiny biatch time and again. The Lions have a better shot at the Playoffs this year than the Bears, and they have a much more difficult schedule to make it through.

That's some nice delusional you got going on over there.

Bears remaining games:

KC
@DEN
SEA
@GB
@MIN

KC, SEA, and MIN are at best half as good as Oakland, and two of those games are at Soldier Field. Cutler may be back in time for one of them as well. DEN is questionable, but the Bears defense is nicely suited for stopping Tebow (very athletic tackles and linebackers). 10-6 is almost a gimme. 11-5 is a strong possibility.

Loins remaining games:

@ NO
MIN
@OAK
SD
@GB

They have no shot against New Orleans and Green Bay. At BEST, the Lions are a 10-6 team, and the Falcons (another WC hopeful) have the tie-breaker over Detroit.

That bandwagon must feel nice, but try not to post from it without sounding like a complete farking moron.

You must make a lot of money betting on NFL games. I mean, strong predictions like that HAVE to come true, right?

Remember when all the "experts" were saying Eagles would win NFC East this year... yeah, about that...

Do people still watch football? And care?

4NTLRZ: nakedcritic: There's a Sussudio joke in here somewhere

Thanks soooooooooo very much for that ear-worm.

No charge buddy

Hillary
What's funny is, the Tigers with Cobb, the Pistons with Laimbeer and Mahorn were all successful, winning teams. Intimidation is part of almost every sport. When he comes back after his suspension, quarterbacks will be twitching with fear that they might get stomped on or their head bashed into the turf. He could be clean the rest of his career and opposing teams will still be afraid.

/Yes, long time Lions fan!

Seems fair to me. The guy wasn't hurt like he was with fat albert and really, this is two and a half games counting the ejection.

This is seriously going to hurt the lions playoff chances as it should. By the way, I'm pretty sure Suh doesn't get a game check for these games either, so that's a pretty big financial hit as well.

Hopefully it will actually change the way the guy acts.

Two for the stomp is fine, it did not seem viscious and it didn't look like the lineman was injured. However, repeatedly slamming the guys head on the ground before that (+the stomp) seems like it should draw more than two.
But with escalating penalties if he doesn't clean up then he will get more, so whatevz.

HaywoodJablonski: Beluga Heights: Hector Remarkable: I take the word "professional" seriously myself, even in professional sports.

There is no excuse for this. He should be banned from the NFL for life. Period.
You act like that, you're out.

I agree with you completely but we both know that'll never happen.

Professional sports are rarely if ever about sportsmanship or acting with class.

Don't you guys have a polo match to attend?

Demanding good sportsmanship is only for the elite? It's not often I see someone acting like such an unapologetic rube. My thanks.

crabsno termites: Do people still watch football? And care?

Nope. Nobody watches it... I hear it's fallen behind soccer and the NHL in terms of popularity.

Hector Remarkable: Wait s minute, if people are agreeing with me I should probably re-think this.
Maybe he just needs a hug, and some special "me"-time.

Sigh. It's not that simple.

NFL players have been taught all or their adult lives - and usually all of their adolescence as well - that you solve problems on the field with violence. Most of them can separate that our pretty well and know when to draw the line, but some can't. Suh isn't out there premeditating on what he's going to do; he's met a violent problem and is escalating the violence in his response. He needs to be punished, definitely, but to go off and say his career should be over for this incident is ludicrous. If you punched out your boss tomorrow the worst that would happen is you'd lose the particular job you have.

My direct experience is with Perry Phenix (played for the Titans around 2001). he was a helluva nice guy off the field - calm, gentle, good sense of humor. But on the field he didn't know how to separate emotions out and he took everything personally - you could see him get in trouble for it darn near every week. He didn't need to have his livelihood taken away, he needed to get some counseling to learn how to deal with his emotions.

Some f the ITGs here need to learn to think rationally rather than reacting emotionally. You know,like Suh.

/Hate white-knighting Suh