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Adolf Oliver Nipples

2011-11-29 09:01:58 AM

Well, heaven helps the man who fights his fear.

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DjangoStonereaver

2011-11-29 09:17:20 AM

Approves.

Richard Saunders

2011-11-29 09:48:02 AM

Damn Veterans Administration.

SoCalSurfer

2011-11-29 11:58:12 AM

I blame the mormons

loonatic112358

2011-11-29 12:01:28 PM

So we can expect a Telenovela based off of Footloose soon I assume?

Salmon

2011-11-29 12:01:51 PM

even crunking?

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malfist

2011-11-29 12:04:33 PM

We're the land of the free! Yeah!

jayhawk88

2011-11-29 12:04:47 PM

Yeah we all know how this goes. Little bit of booze, some music, a small-but-tough bouncer, and before you know it some poor saps getting his neck ripped out.

rubi_con_man

2011-11-29 12:06:48 PM

I'll be they could have:

Keep the music under the decibel limit, cut off people who are drunk.

bmalnad

2011-11-29 12:08:26 PM

Richard Saunders: Damn Veterans Administration.

I chuckled.

fappomatic

2011-11-29 12:10:06 PM

Wait til the MS13 shot callers get wind of this.

Lsherm

2011-11-29 12:13:34 PM

It's Fairfax County. These are the same farktards who arrested people for being drunk in public when they had designated drivers and were walking to the car.

BigCfromSC

2011-11-29 12:16:32 PM

Ahhh, good old Fairfax county. The best thing I ever did was move out of that hell hole. Keep in mind this is the same place, well Herndon specifically, that arrested Santa Claus for drunk in public.

Ghastly

2011-11-29 12:19:32 PM

Even if they kick off their Sunday shoes?

StoPPeRmobile

2011-11-29 12:21:39 PM

I heard something very important on my way to this thread. Everybody have fun tonight. Everybody Wang Chung tonight but not in VA.

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derpdeederp

2011-11-29 12:22:13 PM

Hehe, I go to this bar sometimes. People probably got scared of the large groups of hispanics congregating in the parking lots. Of course, you can go about a mile into Fairfax city an dance at the college bars, no one seems to have a problem with them.

ODDwhun

2011-11-29 12:22:54 PM

Maria Aguilar, who owns Fast Eddie's Billiard Cafe in Fairfax County, thought her business was headed pretty quickly toward success.

Every weekend, patrons flocked to the cavernous space on Route 1 south of Alexandria to eat, drink, shoot pool, throw darts and dance, sometimes to live broadcasts from the Latin radio station "El Zol" (99.1 FM).

Well there's your problem right there.

the_wanderer

2011-11-29 12:22:58 PM

This isn't about some license, it's about a bunch of stupid Mexicans not knowing how to act in public. I see this every weekend at the bar I work it. The more of them you get together, the stupider it's going to be.

Big Cheese Make Hair Go Boom

2011-11-29 12:26:18 PM

Lsherm: It's Fairfax County. These are the same farktards who arrested people for being drunk in public when they had designated drivers and were walking to the car.

Arresting people for public intoxication IN bars/restaurants if they consumed more than 2 or 3 drinks in an hour.

Also, same county that was busting Asian Massage Parlors, by having the officers actually get happy endings. Not just the offer, no, no, no...but going through the act to completion, then arresting the women.

Yeah...

Rik01

2011-11-29 12:31:24 PM

I just love how the race card was quickly put into play.

Zoning is zoning and you know that going in with a business. That's why some bars are not allowed in some areas and a dance club that has music loud enough to rattle windows a block away will not be welcome near a residential district.

I used to live about a block away from a bar which liked to feature new bands and startup groups, but they had sound proofing and while you could hear the music, it didn't rattle the krap out of your windows and over ride your TV.

We had a redneck bar where you just KNEW there were going to be fights on the weekend and loud country music. It was placed down the highway and not in or near a residential area. When things got too loud, the cops showed up. (Actually, on weekends, they should have just had a couple of cop cars stay right there and an ambulance also.)

Just because you get shut down for being a pain in the arse doesn't mean it's racist.

It means you're a pain in the arse.

Big Cheese Make Hair Go Boom

2011-11-29 12:32:39 PM

the_wanderer: This isn't about some license, it's about a bunch of stupid Mexicans not knowing how to act in public. I see this every weekend at the bar I work it. The more of them you get together, the stupider it's going to be.

Well, there is social responsibility on the part of the restaurant/bar...first off, not over serving guests is key here, charging $5-$10 as a cover charge helps keep a decent amount of the riffraff out...keeping the music down so that homes blocks away cannot hear the bass bumping sort of helps with community image, also STOP OVER SERVING!!! I really hate when restaurants complain about drunk guests...responsibility, hows it work? And if the bartenders are so concerned about not making enough money due to less alcohol being served, use some of the cover charge money to add too their pay.

Lee451

2011-11-29 12:33:05 PM

We don't have many dancehalls here in Fredericksburg but the only bars that get busted for constant fights and trouble are the Hispanic ones I think it is a cultural thing for them-you get drunk and you get in a fight. Or rape someone..

Old_Chief_Scott

2011-11-29 12:37:05 PM

Richard Saunders: Damn Veterans Administration.

Heh. I read the headline and said to myself, "Now what?"

stuffy

2011-11-29 12:38:03 PM

But after growing complaints about noise, drunken brawls and other misbehavior,

Salsa or Ballroom, if I have to goto work next morning I don't want to hear it.

the_wanderer

2011-11-29 12:39:04 PM

Lee451: here in Fredericksburg but the only bars that get busted for constant fights and trouble are the Hispanic ones I think it is a cultural thing for them-you get drunk and you get in a fight.

The bar that I work at has a very serious "You act stupid, you get thrown out" policy. About once a month, we throw out a stupid Mexican that won't shut up, won't go home, and won't go away. So they go to jail.

I'm okay with that.

hurdboy

2011-11-29 12:39:33 PM

Lee451: We don't have many dancehalls here in Fredericksburg but the only bars that get busted for constant fights

There's no bars in the Commonwealth. Anywhere they sell mixed drinks, they have to sell food. I think a certain percentage of sales actually have to be from food, too.

/VA's liquor laws are farked; thanks Byrd Organization...dating back to the prohibition repeal
//And the folks in the General Assembly who won't fix the tax code to let that Irish Catholic governor get the Commonwealth out of the business of selling all of it.....

OtherLittleGuy

2011-11-29 12:40:09 PM

Maria Aguilar, who owns Fast Eddie's Billiard Cafe in Fairfax County, thought her business was headed pretty quickly toward success.

Every weekend, patrons flocked to the cavernous space on Route 1 south of Alexandria to eat, drink, shoot pool, throw darts and dance, sometimes to live broadcasts from the Latin radio station "El Zol" (99.1 FM).

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BitwiseShift

2011-11-29 12:44:10 PM

I'm sure the place is also zoned for no standing up sex, since that may lead to dancing.
_{Old Southern Baptist Koan}

Englebert Slaptyback

2011-11-29 12:46:17 PM

ODDwhun

Every weekend, patrons flocked to the cavernous space on Route 1 south of Alexandria to eat, drink, shoot pool, throw darts and dance, sometimes to live broadcasts from the Latin radio station "El Zol" (99.1 FM).

Well there's your problem right there.

Yeah, but there wouldn't be a problem if it were still WHFS.

minuslars

2011-11-29 12:47:37 PM

Fairfax County is the official Police State of the east coast. You can't sneeze without a cop peeking around a corner.

squidgod2000

2011-11-29 12:48:36 PM

ODDwhun: Maria Aguilar, who owns Fast Eddie's Billiard Cafe in Fairfax County, thought her business was headed pretty quickly toward success.

Every weekend, patrons flocked to the cavernous space on Route 1 south of Alexandria to eat, drink, shoot pool, throw darts and dance, sometimes to live broadcasts from the Latin radio station "El Zol" (99.1 FM).

Well there's your problem right there.

Yeah, if HFS hadn't gone all spanish on everyone, this never would have happened.

Big Cheese Make Hair Go Boom

2011-11-29 12:52:08 PM

minuslars: Fairfax County is the official Police State of the east coast. You can't sneeze without a cop peeking around a corner.

IIRC, they are the most heavily trained and most funded police force in the US.

AKA Joker

2011-11-29 12:53:17 PM

1) Fill business in excess of double its capacity creating an unsafe environment for patrons
2) Over sell the event leaving late comers out in the cold (not sure if this is in violation of any law but I assume it would be)
3) Crank up to volume so as to break noise ordinances
4) Claim it was all a racist plot against you
5) Profit

They're simple laws that apply to everyone. I remember back in the late 90s when Potomac Mills Mall(not in Fairfax but nearby) was fined for exceeding capacity on black Friday.

OtherLittleGuy

2011-11-29 01:00:39 PM

the_wanderer: The bar that I work at has a very serious "You act stupid, you get thrown out" policy. About once a month, we throw out a stupid Mexican that won't shut up, won't go home, and won't go away. So they go to jail.

I'm okay with that.

So why do you keep letting Charlie Sheen back in?

syberpud

2011-11-29 01:04:26 PM

Lsherm: It's Fairfax County. These are the same farktards who arrested people for being drunk in public when they had designated drivers and were walking to the car.

Hell, they'll come into the bar and arrest people for public drunkenness. At least they did in the past.

I'm not surprised at all that race is being brought up. There is a lot of tension between residents and the large latino population (many illegal) there to do the all the menial jobs. They want the immigrants there to do low paying jobs, just not be seen otherwise.

parkke0108

2011-11-29 01:06:08 PM

Fast Eddie's huh? I wonder if Callahan is still the barkeep?

/Obscure? I hope not.

colithian

2011-11-29 01:11:32 PM

AKA Joker: 1) Fill business in excess of double its capacity creating an unsafe environment for patrons
2) Over sell the event leaving late comers out in the cold (not sure if this is in violation of any law but I assume it would be)
3) Crank up to volume so as to break noise ordinances
4) Claim it was all a racist plot against you
5) Profit

They're simple laws that apply to everyone. I remember back in the late 90s when Potomac Mills Mall(not in Fairfax but nearby) was fined for exceeding capacity on black Friday.

^Seriously. It's not about "racism". I figured most of the Mexicans and Bolivians were all in Prince William County. But they're breaking noise ordinances. They don't care if you're dancing, it's the music that's too loud. They'd react the same way if it were white drunken college students making the noise. If they really really want to keep it there, at least use lava rock insulation to keep the noise INSIDE.

Oh, but I thought republicans were all about LESS regulations! Suddenly, they love regulations when they see that they're there for a reason.

The Homer Tax

2011-11-29 01:14:32 PM

Meh. I live here (Actually in Loudoun, same difference). I hate everyone involved in this.

I hate the restaurant owners for playing the race card so fast.

I hate the FFXCo police, this isn't the first time they didn't know how to deal with bars.

I hate the busybody residents who buy a house next to a bar and then complain about it.

I hate this state's draconian liquor laws to begin with (the aforementioned fact that "bars" don't actually exist, among many other things).

Sensible laws and everyone acting like adults would go a long ways towards making everyone happy, but instead everyone acts like dicks and all hell breaks loose.

2wolves

2011-11-29 01:15:16 PM

parkke0108: Fast Eddie's huh? I wonder if Callahan is still the barkeep?

/Obscure? I hope not.

Cash only. Put it in the cigar box on your way out.

StoPPeRmobile

2011-11-29 01:18:39 PM

parkke0108

2011-11-29 01:18:45 PM

2wolves:
Cash only. Put it in the cigar box on your way out.

I was hoping someone else on here had read them. Thank you.

patrick767

2011-11-29 01:21:19 PM

This thread reeks of racism. Way to go, assholes.

As for TFA, is the town run by puritans? If the business is violating a noise ordinance, fine them as appropriate. "No dancing" just makes you look like religious nuts.

loonatic112358

2011-11-29 01:22:04 PM

2wolves: parkke0108: Fast Eddie's huh? I wonder if Callahan is still the barkeep?

/Obscure? I hope not.

Cash only. Put it in the cigar box on your way out.

But is the entrance door split in the center

StoPPeRmobile

2011-11-29 01:23:34 PM

patrick767: This thread reeks of racism. Way to go, assholes.

As for TFA, is the town run by puritans? If the business is violating a noise ordinance, fine them as appropriate. "No dancing" just makes you look like religious nuts.

As if any Farker has power.

CAADbury

2011-11-29 01:30:34 PM

The Homer Tax: Meh. I live here (Actually in Loudoun, same difference).

Like hell it is. Is there an equivalent to Alabama Drive in Loudoun?

Phelon Hardtimes

2011-11-29 01:33:31 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: ODDwhun

Every weekend, patrons flocked to the cavernous space on Route 1 south of Alexandria to eat, drink, shoot pool, throw darts and dance, sometimes to live broadcasts from the Latin radio station "El Zol" (99.1 FM).

Well there's your problem right there.

Yeah, but there wouldn't be a problem if it were still WHFS.

You are aware that the station that used to be WHFS (99.1) is now a latin music channel and has been for some time, right? Lulz.

Phelon Hardtimes

2011-11-29 01:37:28 PM

CAADbury: The Homer Tax: Meh. I live here (Actually in Loudoun, same difference).

Like hell it is. Is there an equivalent to Alabama Drive in Loudoun?

Yes. Ft.Evans Road in Leesburg.

The Homer Tax

2011-11-29 01:38:47 PM

CAADbury: Like hell it is. Is there an equivalent to Alabama Drive in Loudoun?

I don't know what that is. If it has something to do with Hispanics, have you ever been to Sterling? Notably Sterling Blvd. between 28 and 7? Let's be real here, Eastern Loudoun is Fairfax West.

CAADbury

2011-11-29 01:38:55 PM

Phelon Hardtimes: Yes. Ft.Evans Road in Leesburg.

where the Premium Outlets are located?

CAADbury

2011-11-29 01:40:59 PM

The Homer Tax: Let's be real here, Eastern Loudoun is Fairfax West.

yeah that I can agree with. I didn't realize S. Sterling was in Loudoun.

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