Hypocrites, unite!

This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Um, true, but um, then you can't preach family values if it's all cool and shiat later if you just kiss a little deity ass after snorting coke off a hooker's ass or cheat on your dying wife.

The reason he looks like an overgrown baby is because he's been born again so many times. The fundies will be happy with him

"Newt has been honest and forthright about the fact that he has had moments in his life that he regrets, that he has had to seek reconciliation, and go to God for forgiveness," the campaign says on the site.

Yeah, the fundies will eat this shiat up all day long. The only thing they like more than someone without sin is someone who sinned and repented.

Related: Landover Baptist's Personal Testimony Improvement Center (new window).

coeyagi: dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Um, true, but um, then you can't preach family values if it's all cool and shiat later if you just kiss a little deity ass after snorting coke off a hooker's ass or cheat on your dying wife.

Just like former alcoholics can't exhort new recovering alcoholics to give up drinking? C'mon, now. The man prescribes to a faith which has a set of values. Many members of the GOP do, as well, and it isn't that disruptive to move past something like this. In fact, it is the most natural thing to do. It isn't turning a "blind eye" to the sin, at least as it was explained to me, but rather looking forward to the healing. I'm not sure if he has made amends or paid his dues -- as it applies to his faith -- but again it isn't surprising to see people of faith being able to move past this.

Newt Gingrich just reads the Wicked Bible. So no problem!

James!: The 11th commandment (new window) trumps the rest.

I prefer the Remo Williams version: "Thou shalt not get away with it."

It's almost as though an infallible omnipotent source wasn't able to create infallible guidelines, making it look as if people created them and passed them off as the words of some god or something.

People are people. People doing people stuff isn't hypocritical. But people claiming they're above all that, then they do it anyway? Hypocrites.

I hate this 'I repented so it's all cool and doesn't matter any more' bullshiat.

He's scum as far as family values goes. No amount of praying it away will change that.

dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Something else just came in. You are too stupid to live and you are gonna get killed in this thread because of that stupidity.

improvius: "Newt has been honest and forthright about the fact that he has had moments in his life that he regrets, that he has had to seek reconciliation, and go to God for forgiveness," the campaign says on the site.

Yeah, the fundies will eat this shiat up all day long. The only thing they like more than someone without sin is someone who sinned and repented.

Bah. You libtards have never read the Bible.

King David coveted Bathsheba, who was married to Uriah the Hittite.

David, wanting to hit the Hittite's wife's titties, had Uriah killed.

The prophet Nathan (patron saint of hot dogs) then scolded David. The firstborn son of David and Bathsheba was killed by God as punishment for David's sin.

Their second son, however, was Solomon, the wisest man ever, and a great and glorious king of Israel.

And David is known as "a man after God's own heart".

Newt, you see, is among the Christian elite, just like King David.

Of *course* Jesus would be willing to be tortured to death to save good Christian men like Newt. He's worth it. Newt shouldn't have to be punished directly for his transgressions, just as King David's firstborn baby bore the punishment for the sin of his father.

Jesus died to erase Newt's sins, so you libtards shouldn't be pointing the finger of blame. To do so is tantamount to elevating yourselves above God.

So suck it, libs!

Bob16: dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Something else just came in. You are too stupid to live and you are gonna get killed in this thread because of that stupidity.

People are either telling me I'm going to get killed in "the real world" or "this thread" all the time and I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe. But if you just take a minute to try to empathize with traditional Christian beliefs, you could get over the whole "They're turning a blind eye" or "They're all hypocrites for ignoring this" thing. It's so surprising to many people here but for a lot of the country, it's perfectly normal.

So whenever some judge wants to put the ten commandments up in stone he should probably write in pencil, just because it might change.

Diogenes: If they were to forgive Clinton, for example, I'd buy it. But selective forgiveness is not forgiveness at all. It's an exercise in more precise hypocrisy.

Well, that's the problem with mixing politics and religion. I think it's OK if your faith informs your decision. For many people, faith -- or even their rejection of it -- is the foundation of their core beliefs. It is perfectly natural to consider a candidate in terms of your faith. Now for many, it is totally possible to "forgive" Newt. In the case of Clinton they would say, "It's between him and his God." And that's part of the problem. "It's between him and his God" applies to both men, the question is why so many would continue to attack Clinton and defend Newt. It doesn't make sense.

Charlie Freak: Okay, so what is it, exactly, that endears him to them versus so many other human beings? How Christ-like, exactly, is this guy that he should get their ear?

I have no idea because 1) I don't support Newt in the primary and 2) what little I know about his moral inventory is inaccurate and even if I knew all, it would ultimately be irrelevant (in terms of faith, not in judge of character).

If these pastors churches are big enough to get them invited to meet with a presidential candidate, then they have reached the point of diminishing returns. They go to see the candidate because they are a business, like any other business (except they don't pay taxes) and want him to do favors for them later on down the road if he is elected. Past scandals? Big whoop, if this guy gets into power he can channel millions their way, and pass and veto laws that will protect their church to the tune of millions more.

So why would they bring up his past peccadilloes when there is money at stake?
Only the pastors of the smaller churches would dare do that, and they can easily be dismissed as crackpots because they are not as successful as the frozen chosen.

Parthenogenetic: improvius: "Newt has been honest and forthright about the fact that he has had moments in his life that he regrets, that he has had to seek reconciliation, and go to God for forgiveness," the campaign says on the site.

Yeah, the fundies will eat this shiat up all day long. The only thing they like more than someone without sin is someone who sinned and repented.

Bah. You libtards have never read the Bible.

King David coveted Bathsheba, who was married to Uriah the Hittite.

David, wanting to hit the Hittite's wife's titties, had Uriah killed.

The prophet Nathan (patron saint of hot dogs) then scolded David. The firstborn son of David and Bathsheba was killed by God as punishment for David's sin.

Their second son, however, was Solomon, the wisest man ever, and a great and glorious king of Israel.

And David is known as "a man after God's own heart".

Newt, you see, is among the Christian elite, just like King David.

Of *course* Jesus would be willing to be tortured to death to save good Christian men like Newt. He's worth it. Newt shouldn't have to be punished directly for his transgressions, just as King David's firstborn baby bore the punishment for the sin of his father.

Jesus died to erase Newt's sins, so you libtards shouldn't be pointing the finger of blame. To do so is tantamount to elevating yourselves above God.

So suck it, libs!

I may steal portions of this statement for the amusement of my friends and family.

dontpointthatthingatme: Bob16: dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Something else just came in. You are too stupid to live and you are gonna get killed in this thread because of that stupidity.

People are either telling me I'm going to get killed in "the real world" or "this thread" all the time and I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe. But if you just take a minute to try to empathize with traditional Christian beliefs, you could get over the whole "They're turning a blind eye" or "They're all hypocrites for ignoring this" thing. It's so surprising to many people here but for a lot of the country, it's perfectly normal.

Yeah that'll help.

Don't go making dumb arguments with tractor trailer sized holes in them.

Not to mention using the word empathize in connection with the party that invented hate radio.

Family values is negotiable. Make a deal with any devil if it advances Christian dominionism in this country. Anyway Newt is basically a Western cultural Constantine-style Christian supremacist if not a true believer.

DNRTFA, but lemme guess: "You're a patriot so it doesn't count"?

Just what I would expect of leaders of a religion that worships a lifesized coagulated scab impaled upon a cross, and pretends that ritual cannibalism / vampirism and the right utterances will magically give eternal life. A religion that- every time it could get away with it- used widespread murder and torture to eliminate those who... well, those folks that they wanted to murder or torture. A religion that let its clergy fark kids for literally centuries.

But like Frank Zappa pointed out, the christians are at least ... "friendly."

I know our Constitution says otherwise, but morally, in the age of nukes and germ warfare, we really have in fact lost our perceived "right" to "belive" in the ridiculous myths of ancient superstitious goatfarkers.

At least he's not a MORMON. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Huh. I noted the "Dana Bertoluzzi" tag for this thread, and had no idea who she was. I went Googling, and found this on a site called "Conservatives with Newt":



LOL

FTA: "They asked how does God influence, how does your religion influence your decisions. And he said that is very important to him, that faith is very important," said the supporter, Dana Bertoluzzi

And when Gingrich spoke the above, he was mentally biting a hole in his lip so hard, a fountain of blood shot out from his mouth like a plasma sprinkler.

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?

"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you-you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

-Matthew 6:19-34

dontpointthatthingatme: coeyagi: dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Um, true, but um, then you can't preach family values if it's all cool and shiat later if you just kiss a little deity ass after snorting coke off a hooker's ass or cheat on your dying wife.

Just like former alcoholics can't exhort new recovering alcoholics to give up drinking? C'mon, now. The man prescribes to a faith which has a set of values. Many members of the GOP do, as well, and it isn't that disruptive to move past something like this. In fact, it is the most natural thing to do. It isn't turning a "blind eye" to the sin, at least as it was explained to me, but rather looking forward to the healing. I'm not sure if he has made amends or paid his dues -- as it applies to his faith -- but again it isn't surprising to see people of faith being able to move past this.

When the offender is Republican, there that is now more accurate.

dontpointthatthingatme: Bob16: dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not). He wasn't there for confession.

Something else just came in. You are too stupid to live and you are gonna get killed in this thread because of that stupidity.

People are either telling me I'm going to get killed in "the real world" or "this thread" all the time and I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe. But if you just take a minute to try to empathize with traditional Christian beliefs, you could get over the whole "They're turning a blind eye" or "They're all hypocrites for ignoring this" thing. It's so surprising to many people here but for a lot of the country, it's perfectly normal.

As long as the offender is white and most importantly Republican.

dontpointthatthingatme: This just in: people are human, and God forgives them (if you are a person of faith and even if you're not).

God forgives you when you repent and ask for forgiveness - Newt's attempt at repenting was:

"There's no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate."

That's known as equivocating.

Parthenogenetic: improvius: "Newt has been honest and forthright about the fact that he has had moments in his life that he regrets, that he has had to seek reconciliation, and go to God for forgiveness," the campaign says on the site.

Yeah, the fundies will eat this shiat up all day long. The only thing they like more than someone without sin is someone who sinned and repented.

Bah. You libtards have never read the Bible.

King David coveted Bathsheba, who was married to Uriah the Hittite.

David, wanting to hit the Hittite's wife's titties, had Uriah killed.

The prophet Nathan (patron saint of hot dogs) then scolded David. The firstborn son of David and Bathsheba was killed by God as punishment for David's sin.

Their second son, however, was Solomon, the wisest man ever, and a great and glorious king of Israel.

And David is known as "a man after God's own heart".

Newt, you see, is among the Christian elite, just like King David.

Of *course* Jesus would be willing to be tortured to death to save good Christian men like Newt. He's worth it. Newt shouldn't have to be punished directly for his transgressions, just as King David's firstborn baby bore the punishment for the sin of his father.

Jesus died to erase Newt's sins, so you libtards shouldn't be pointing the finger of blame. To do so is tantamount to elevating yourselves above God.

So suck it, libs!

Unless I am greatly mistaken, to covet is not the same as to commit adultary.

Subby, I am guessing that number to be somewhere between zero and none.

Mr. Titanium: Unless I am greatly mistaken, to covet is not the same as to commit adultary.

Yes coveting is less than adultery. Just wanting to have sex out of marriage is wrong (according to the bible). Doing it is worse.

Corvus: Mr. Titanium: Unless I am greatly mistaken, to covet is not the same as to commit adultary.

Yes coveting is less than adultery. Just wanting to have sex out of marriage is wrong (according to the bible). Doing it is worse.

Well, the coveting led to adultery, but I did not mention that. It's a matter between David and his God, and he's been forgiven.

And shame on you for bringing it up!

Is this when we should criticize political leaders for cheating on their spouses or not?

This standard seems to change from politician to politician.

Newt will probably straighten up, recite John 8:7 and Matthew 7:1 then move on...

/haters going hate