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alexian15		2011-11-28 05:11:44 PM

While I don't doubt that this is an actual case of medical neglect, can anyone remember the child taken from his parents several years ago for the same reason, only for doctors to discover that the child did actually in fact have a super-rare disorder that created his excessive weight? I'm a Google-tard today.

cleanup in aisle 2		2011-11-28 05:12:29 PM

so she's trying the 'he's not dead yet' defense?

i'll get popcorn!

Jim_Callahan		2011-11-28 05:15:13 PM

Profedius: I am 6 foot 2 inches and punch in at 185 no belly fat here. I have never been close to 200. I mean how? I assume the kid goes to school so there is atleast some point where he is not allowed to eat.

If you're actually trying to put on pounds quickly and healthily, my recommendation would be judo. Amateur level judo beefs you up even faster than most of the other wrestling styles and it's distributed across your body so you don't actually look like a gym rat. Plus, bone density goes up, too, so you end up with a lot of really heavy people that would have a tough time floating if you tossed 'em in a river.

Short of actually dedicating serious hours to a sport at something approaching a pro level, you're not going to shoot your mass up half as fast without going fat with anything else.

//Plus it's good for your humility, since 10% of the sport is intentionally letting people kick your ass and the other 90% is getting your ass kicked unwilling.

MemeSlave		2011-11-28 05:15:33 PM

namegoeshere: This article has much more info. (new window)

Cleveland Heights? Kid sounds brown.

dbaggins		2011-11-28 05:17:03 PM

these articles are useless without pics.

I googled for articles about this kid and come up empty. I think they are withholding the names and pictures.

ODDwhun		2011-11-28 05:17:04 PM

Earpj: usual crap that school lunch is...

www.savoryreviews.com

Shut up and eat your veggies.

JWideman		2011-11-28 05:17:49 PM

alexian15: While I don't doubt that this is an actual case of medical neglect, can anyone remember the child taken from his parents several years ago for the same reason, only for doctors to discover that the child did actually in fact have a super-rare disorder that created his excessive weight? I'm a Google-tard today.

Yeah, and it's probably the same thing in this case. It's hard to imagine an 8 year old that doesn't burn calories just sitting still, let alone one that weighs more than most adults.

you are a puppet		2011-11-28 05:18:17 PM

I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

jonny_q		2011-11-28 05:18:46 PM

I want to live in this city where none of the kids are underfed, raised by crack addicts or abusers, or live in dangerously unsanitary environments. It must be an awesome town if CPS has worked down the list all the way to "fat kids"

RexTalionis		2011-11-28 05:19:10 PM

Before I lost the weight (or most of it), I was 255 pounds in high school at around 5'9"-5'10". Let me tell you, that experience was miserable. Daily chest pains, knee and joint pain (a fact not made better by the fact that I carried a 50 pound book bag, so there was about, what, 1800 pounds of pressure on my knees?), constant lack of breath, a seriously fast pulse from my heart working overtime (I think I had a 100 bpm resting pulse at one point), etc.

If you don't think the kid is suffering, let me tell you from personal experience that he is probably in a lot of pain. If my body can't take 255 pounds at my height (as a high schooler), then it's worse for that kid at half the height. Seriously, take the kid away, that mother is doing the kid real harm.

eddiesocket		2011-11-28 05:19:19 PM

JWideman: alexian15: While I don't doubt that this is an actual case of medical neglect, can anyone remember the child taken from his parents several years ago for the same reason, only for doctors to discover that the child did actually in fact have a super-rare disorder that created his excessive weight? I'm a Google-tard today.

Yeah, and it's probably the same thing in this case. It's hard to imagine an 8 year old that doesn't burn calories just sitting still, let alone one that weighs more than most adults.

He's been under medical care for a year. They've probably tested him once or twice.

/Mom sucks, take the kid away and save his life.

jonny_q		2011-11-28 05:19:58 PM

you are a puppet: I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

Yeah, well, screw you, too.

groppet		2011-11-28 05:20:32 PM

Can we render him into a useful oil?

namegoeshere		2011-11-28 05:21:39 PM

Der Poopflinger: valar_morghulis: Shouldn't be laughing at the kid. Isn't his fault; he's probably lonely.

/Welcometofark.jpg, I know
//was a chubby kid
///5'11, 205 -- still need to drop some chub

of course he's lonely, he keeps eating his friends

This thread. You win it.

Englebert Slaptyback		2011-11-28 05:23:47 PM

groppet

Can we render him into a useful oil?

Maybe we can replace his spine with a piece of rope and turn him into a large candle. His head can be the candle-putter-outer-thing.

That, or biodiesel.

eddiesocket		2011-11-28 05:25:36 PM

jonny_q: you are a puppet: I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

Yeah, well, screw you, too.

THIS!

I say the state takes you away in order to help my self-esteem.

/6'3' 215, fighting it every day.

theMagni		2011-11-28 05:26:01 PM

MrSteve007: NMTurtlelady: Not necessarily. The BMI fails to take into account the fact that a given volume of muscle weighs more than the equal volume of fat. Thus, people who are body-builders can still fall into the Obese end of the BMI charts even though they may have a body fat percentage in single digits. It's also common with pro football players to have an "obese" BMI (and no, we're not talking about the offensive linemen, either).

As another farker points out above, this kid's BMI is in the 90 range. I don't care how fit you are, you're not going to see a 200 lbs 4' 6" body builder or football player.

I wish we had the kid's height.

I think we can assume that the kid's BMI is high due to lifting ice cream rather than free weights. For the majority of the population, BMI is a very good first-order approximation. Yes, there are problems with it, but no, you can't think you're a weightlifter just because you're wearing a 4X Tap-Out shirt.

For height, if it helps, my daughter is in the 99th percentile for height for her age (8 in Feb) and she's 48" tall. (Approx 60#) I would suggest that's a reasonable assumption for the kid's height, 4'. He may be taller, but I don't think he'll be much shorter than that.

That would put his BMI at... oh wow, I'm getting 61.

By comparison, I'm 5'11", 165#, BMI approx 23.

namegoeshere		2011-11-28 05:26:12 PM

some.old.lady.: While I understand that this case is most likely due to parental indulgence, this child will need to be tested for, among other things, Prader-Willi Syndrome.

If you are interested, look it up. This, and some other conditions/treatments will present as obesity in the very young.

If he had Prader-Willi, they'd know it by now. The obesity is only one symptom. Others include abnormally small genetalia and mental retardation.

There are some other rare genetic conditions that will result in childhood obesity without consuming mass quantities, but they are rare and this does not sound like that, as Mom and Dad are also fat and his diet sucks.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

CT_Kirk		2011-11-28 05:26:38 PM

Came for Cartman - Leaving

Jim_Callahan		2011-11-28 05:26:52 PM

you are a puppet: I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

What I said a post up about wrestling. Albeit at 6'4" and 80 kg you're gonna spend a lot of time on your ass from forward throws, in the end it'll probably work out better than lifting, which is the only other mass-builder I'd really recommend but is really, really boring.

ritalinchild 54		2011-11-28 05:29:17 PM

jvl		2011-11-28 05:29:32 PM

alexian15: While I don't doubt that this is an actual case of medical neglect, can anyone remember the child taken from his parents several years ago for the same reason, only for doctors to discover that the child did actually in fact have a super-rare disorder that created his excessive weight? I'm a Google-tard today.

Does the disorder violate Conservation of Mass? Or transform heat from the surrounding environment into body fat? If not, then someone was feeding him.

L33t Squirrel		2011-11-28 05:30:53 PM

ODDwhun: [www.savoryreviews.com image 640x428]

Shut up and eat your veggies.

*Snerk.* :D

meyerkev		2011-11-28 05:31:14 PM

6'4" and ~280 pounds, which is down from the 315 I peaked at last August. Despite that, I'm not spherical, my shoulders are significantly wider than my hips and gut, I haven't started to expand sideways, and at my last physical, my doctor said I was perfectly healthy other than a Vitamin D deficiency. It's all about where it falls. Just over a year ago, I was 6'4" and 240 (Yay for lack of exercise, free unlimited dorm food, and using food to make up for sleep because I had work at 6:30 AM) and while I was in no way svelte, I didn't even have a gut. It's all about where it falls. The "goal" is 200, and at that point, I'll start looking like a skeleton.

/Got asked more than once who I played football for.
//Answer is "No One, because my throat closes up if I run for more than 3 seconds at a go."

queenstacela		2011-11-28 05:32:01 PM

Ok this needed to happen, a 8 year weighed more than I did at 9 months pregnant. Seriously, he needs to learn that fast food isn't the answer and clearly his mother isn't teaching him

theMagni		2011-11-28 05:35:31 PM

you are a puppet: I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

Eat a four-litre tub of ice cream every day, you'll be over 200 in no time. I also have a recipe somewhere (my wife will not let me bake it) for brownies, the pan is worth about 10k calories, that's a permanent 3 pounds.

No, seriously, you want to work your muscles to exhaustion about once a week, doing 3-4 reps of the most you can lift. If you can do 5, up the weight. You should feel the workout the next day without being stiff. Do not use gym machines as those will only work the larger "show" muscles. Use free weights, those will get the little balance muscles working, which will give you a less silly look + tone the muscles you actually use for balance.

Make sure you get lots of sleep too, muscles only build while you're sleeping. Rest days are also critical, if you aren't resting you are likely to be doing more damage than building.

Don't worry about upping your protein intake, that's a myth. Your body will synthesize all the protein it requires.

StupidPopMediaReference		2011-11-28 05:37:23 PM

InOmnibusCaritas: What a 200lb 3rd grader looks like:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 533x418]

images.cheezburger.com

/Had to be done

Jim_Callahan		2011-11-28 05:38:30 PM

theMagni:
Don't worry about upping your protein intake, that's a myth. Your body will synthesize all the protein it requires.

Eh, you already told him to take in a gallon of ice cream a day, that's a shiatton of protein anyhow.

theMagni		2011-11-28 05:39:04 PM

queenstacela: Ok this needed to happen, a 8 year weighed more than I did at 9 months pregnant. Seriously, he needs to learn that fast food isn't the answer and clearly his mother isn't teaching him

He weighs as much as I do when I'm piggy-backing my five-year-old.

Profedius		2011-11-28 05:41:40 PM

Jim_Callahan: Profedius: I am 6 foot 2 inches and punch in at 185 no belly fat here. I have never been close to 200. I mean how? I assume the kid goes to school so there is atleast some point where he is not allowed to eat.

If you're actually trying to put on pounds quickly and healthily, my recommendation would be judo. Amateur level judo beefs you up even faster than most of the other wrestling styles and it's distributed across your body so you don't actually look like a gym rat. Plus, bone density goes up, too, so you end up with a lot of really heavy people that would have a tough time floating if you tossed 'em in a river.

Short of actually dedicating serious hours to a sport at something approaching a pro level, you're not going to shoot your mass up half as fast without going fat with anything else.

//Plus it's good for your humility, since 10% of the sport is intentionally letting people kick your ass and the other 90% is getting your ass kicked unwilling.

Thanks for the advice, but I am good and only workout to stay toned and lose.

RexTalionis		2011-11-28 05:41:51 PM

you are a puppet: I'm 30, 6'4 and actively trying to gain weight (take protein and creatine), and I can't even break 180

Want to gain weight? Make yourself rice xifan (congee) everyday. Essentially, take rice, boil it in water until it is is soupy like a nice risotto. For taste, add some chicken, seaweed, ham, scrambled eggs, pidan, salt and a little bit of chicken stock. It's essentially Chinese comfort food. Eat a bowl of it every night after your dinner. In a few weeks, I think you'll notice yourself gaining weight.

huskerdu		2011-11-28 05:47:52 PM

groppet: Can we render him into a useful oil?

Fat kids don't burn clean.

Threadslayer		2011-11-28 05:49:22 PM

I'm 6' and at 200lbs I was fat. Geezus.

memtastic		2011-11-28 05:51:30 PM

Hey. I get to use this twice in one week.

Fuggin Bizzy		2011-11-28 05:54:57 PM

From the linked Plain Dealer article: Others suggest there's hypocrisy in a government that would advocate taking children away for being overweight while saying it's OK to advertise unhealthy food and put toys in fast-food kids' meals.

Government, blovernment. Here's what I farkin' do: I tell my kids "No we're not going to eat at McDonalds. No we're not going to buy potato chips. And no you can't have a Coke. Go outside and play."

It's just that hard.

IlGreven		2011-11-28 05:58:00 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: That kid weighs more then me. If that's not abuse it's at least disgusting.

Assuming it's not abuse, is that really the criteria you want to have to judge people's freedoms? On how they personally disgust you?

/If it is abuse, then yeah, take him, but if it's not, really?

JWideman		2011-11-28 05:58:12 PM

jvl: alexian15: While I don't doubt that this is an actual case of medical neglect, can anyone remember the child taken from his parents several years ago for the same reason, only for doctors to discover that the child did actually in fact have a super-rare disorder that created his excessive weight? I'm a Google-tard today.

Does the disorder violate Conservation of Mass? Or transform heat from the surrounding environment into body fat? If not, then someone was feeding him.

I don't recall the name of it, but it was similar to a pituitary disorder - the kid got fat on the same diet other kids would stay skinny. It does happen, though it's rare.

iverbali		2011-11-28 05:59:01 PM

I have heard many a mother of a heavy child say....oh they don't eat that much...I control what they eat...and I cannot afford healthy food...sigh...

nostudme		2011-11-28 05:59:33 PM

Someone get ready to stand on another 7 hour flight.

groppet		2011-11-28 06:00:12 PM

huskerdu: groppet: Can we render him into a useful oil?

Fat kids don't burn clean.

It will be like biodiesel, smells just like french fries and chicken nuggets

Real Women Drink Akvavit		2011-11-28 06:00:50 PM

namegoeshere: This article has much more info. (new window)

Thanks for posting that link. I figured someone had to be sneaking the little chubbo extra food unless the mother just didn't give a shiat. 8 year old kids aren't known for their impulse control so if someone offers him a treat, darn straight he's taking it. Shoot, I'll be 42 tomorrow and I STILL have almost zero impulse control. I can't imagine having to lose weight at 8 years old. I would have set a world record for chub at that age if my family hadn't been so food poor.

Repeat after me, kid. "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels". (Except maybe Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia and those Tapatio Doritos)

/still chubby
//getting better though!

special20		2011-11-28 06:02:28 PM

Grapple: pounddawg: Did anyone notice this article??

Link (new window)

Sweet Jesus... Post Partum Depression is one thing, that's something entirely off the scale of WTF

You know... you've seen gramma looking at some little baby and think think it's cute to say "I could eat your toes", or "I'm gonna bite your little butt".... but now you wonder if they mean it in a whole different way... yeah, that's gonna be frowned on from this day forward.

iverbali		2011-11-28 06:04:02 PM

NMTurtlelady: Forget BMI -- what is this kid's height to girth ratio, in feet? I mean, he can't be that tall, can he?

My youngest is 13 and is 6"2 and weighs 145lbs...

my lip balm addiction		2011-11-28 06:09:51 PM

Jument sounds like a sack of antlers.

/needs a sammich 'parently

some.old.lady.		2011-11-28 06:12:26 PM

ritalinchild 54: some.old.lady.: While I understand that this case is most likely due to parental indulgence, this child will need to be tested for, among other things, Prader-Willi Syndrome.

If you are interested, look it up. This, and some other conditions/treatments will present as obesity in the very young.

That was my thought also! But I believe "Prager-Willis" also has another indicator being "retardation" apologizes for the use of older terms.

.....
Agreed.

Ed Finnerty		2011-11-28 06:13:14 PM

^{/God help Maury}

some.old.lady.		2011-11-28 06:13:16 PM

namegoeshere: some.old.lady.: While I understand that this case is most likely due to parental indulgence, this child will need to be tested for, among other things, Prader-Willi Syndrome.

If you are interested, look it up. This, and some other conditions/treatments will present as obesity in the very young.

If he had Prader-Willi, they'd know it by now. The obesity is only one symptom. Others include abnormally small genetalia and mental retardation.

There are some other rare genetic conditions that will result in childhood obesity without consuming mass quantities, but they are rare and this does not sound like that, as Mom and Dad are also fat and his diet sucks.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

.....
Agreed.

Jument		2011-11-28 06:16:23 PM

iverbali: NMTurtlelady: Forget BMI -- what is this kid's height to girth ratio, in feet? I mean, he can't be that tall, can he?

My youngest is 13 and is 6"2 and weighs 145lbs...

That's kinda freakish!

mcwehrle		2011-11-28 06:20:08 PM

Jument: So do a lot of you, by the way. 200 lbs at 6' is pretty heavy. If you don't have a ton of muscle mass you're fat. And even if you do you're probably a little chubbish.

Yeah? So? We're not this kid.

Fark your judgement, has no bearing here.

welcometofark.jpg

ThighsofGlory		2011-11-28 06:27:11 PM

Earpj: I wonder if mom tried to give the kid salads and whatnot. Siblings undermined it by giving him crap food. I also wonder if the school gave him good healthy food, or if they gave him the usual crap that school lunch is...

I wonder how tall the kid is, and his shoe size. He might not be sideshow fat.

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