Marcus Aurelius: GAT_00: imapirate: rhino33: meh. tebow didn't get it done this week, the kicker got it done.

Somebody had to move that football down the field to get it close enough to kick, didn't they?

That would be Willis McGahee.

Without Jesus he would have been tackled for a loss.

Little known fact... Tebow healed McGahee's nagging knee injury.

...and ESPN continues to milk Tebow to the point of implosion for precious ratings/internet hits.

HST's Dead Carcass: Marcus Aurelius: Without Jesus he would have been tackled for a loss.

There's some kid down in Texas who's prayer to God about getting his dad off the booze so he'd stop beating the whole family failed to get through because Timmy needed a field goal missed in OT so he could lead the team to glory.

Marcus Aurelius: Are you sure that his dad wasn't cancelling it out by counter-praying for more booze?

i actually heard someone explain this by saying that god answers all prayers, but that sometimes the answer is "no".

what an almighty dick, amirite!?

Quality article, DJ.

I believe that Tim Tebow and Kirk Cameron would make a cute couple. I am a Tebowist.

Tebow plays hard and hasn't been arrested unlike the other 99% of NFL players who are thugs that don't try hard and knock up the babbies mommas with the rap music going "boogie woogie baby wanna stick it in ya!" I am a Tebowist.

Overlooked is the fact that a DUI only gets you released from a football team if you miss OT or game winning kicks... Amirite Matt Prater?

Also, and not to hate on Prater for his DUI (assuming he NEVER drinks and drives again) but my man has the absolute worst tattoo's in the league. Not one but two tribal things around his bony arms? lolz.

SlothB77: San Diego scored 13 points in 4 quarters and 14:27 minutes. A lot of bad QBs could beat that.

Kyle Orton wishes Denver had played defense like this in the first five weeks of the season. Tebow would have never seen the field.

The Broncos defense deserves way more credit than Tebow.

Wadded Beef: ...and ESPN continues to milk Tebow to the point of implosion for precious ratings/internet hits.

Kyle Orton is better than Tebow by most objective measures, despite the fact that he sucks. And Tebow is demolishing Orton's record. I am not sure that ESPN is milking much of anything. If you've watched Denver this year, you've gone from, "Why do they keep losing? This is ridiculous," to, "This is going to be an interesting game. They should lose. And at 5 minutes Tebow will manage, with McGahee's help or not, to lead them down the field." The ESPN guys are more shocked than the average person. They knew Tebow was going to fail. The level of crazy they are expressing shows how much the idea of Tebow winning a game, much less 5 or more games in a season, blows apart everything they say on a weekly basis. This is new territory for them. He's supposed to be worse than the third string quarterbacks who are in games now and losing them.

Yes, I've watched every Denver game this year. No, I am not a Tebow fan -- I've spewed more disdain for him than a lot of people even here on Fark. I absolutely did not want to see him on the field. And, no, it didn't have to do with religion (though that annoyed me, too) -- it went back to his college days when I thought he was absolute garbage, but had the one positive quality that people seemed to rally around him.

In the end, he is winning, I was absolutely wrong, and I'm shutting my damned mouth. He seems like a genuine kid, and when he's in they seem to win games. That's the whole point of professional sports.

Lord Huggington: The Broncos defense deserves way more credit than Tebow.

Nonsense. The Denver defense has been excellent on and off for years, and still they managed to find ways to fail. When the games were tight in the past, Denver would find a way to cough up the ball, punt it when they needed to go for it, or otherwise to do something miserable that would lose the game. Now you have a guy who can't complete a pass an average eight grader could, running through tiny holes and otherwise causing idiotic missed assignments because he is doing everything wrong. The McGahee does it all crap from a previous comment makes sense until you notice that McGahee is making it through holes he otherwise wouldn't because the opposing D is keying on Tebow, knowing he's going to run when he shouldn't, in places that he shouldn't go.

Marcus Aurelius: GAT_00: imapirate: rhino33: meh. tebow didn't get it done this week, the kicker got it done.

Somebody had to move that football down the field to get it close enough to kick, didn't they?

That would be Willis McGahee.

Without Jesus he would have been tackled for a loss.

That's Tebus to you, blasphemer. Your burning at the stake is scheduled for 12:00 PM sharp on Wednesday. Don't be late.

FitzShivering: Wadded Beef: ...and ESPN continues to milk Tebow to the point of implosion for precious ratings/internet hits.

Kyle Orton is better than Tebow by most objective measures, despite the fact that he sucks. And Tebow is demolishing Orton's record. I am not sure that ESPN is milking much of anything. If you've watched Denver this year, you've gone from, "Why do they keep losing? This is ridiculous," to, "This is going to be an interesting game. They should lose. And at 5 minutes Tebow will manage, with McGahee's help or not, to lead them down the field." The ESPN guys are more shocked than the average person. They knew Tebow was going to fail. The level of crazy they are expressing shows how much the idea of Tebow winning a game, much less 5 or more games in a season, blows apart everything they say on a weekly basis. This is new territory for them. He's supposed to be worse than the third string quarterbacks who are in games now and losing them.

Yes, I've watched every Denver game this year. No, I am not a Tebow fan -- I've spewed more disdain for him than a lot of people even here on Fark. I absolutely did not want to see him on the field. And, no, it didn't have to do with religion (though that annoyed me, too) -- it went back to his college days when I thought he was absolute garbage, but had the one positive quality that people seemed to rally around him.

In the end, he is winning, I was absolutely wrong, and I'm shutting my damned mouth. He seems like a genuine kid, and when he's in they seem to win games. That's the whole point of professional sports.

For clarity, I meant that ESPN is jumping on the polarizing (and, at times, stoking the conflict) aspect of Tebow for nothing other than increased ratings. Good for business, sure, but at some point it's going to reach critical mass and the world will start to collectively eyeroll at every Tebow-related article (I'm sure many Farkers here have done that already). Eventually ESPN will move on to the next story/conflict du jour after the returns for Tebow have fully diminished.

As for Tebow himself, he's a nice kid, Bronco football hasn't been this much fun in years but I'm still not sold on long-term success. Championships in today's pass-friendly NFL stem from scheming, innovation and precision (note your upper-echelon QBs and recent championships) and not being a college-throwback blunt object. I just don't buy it. Yes, Denver can run and beat so-so opponents but what happens vs. elite teams? I think Elway and Fox pretty much know this and the Broncos have a real PR situation come next April for the draft if they go for a conventional pocket-passer QB. And I think we'd all agree that ESPN will be there to pick up on the OMG TEBOWZFUTURE and milk it all over again.

Agree about Orton. He sucked for sure.

Tebow INSPIRED the kicker to make that field goal. Would you miss a field goal with Tebow looking at you? No you wouldn't, because that would be like disappointing God.

i gotta tell you, i've got a bit of a Te-Boner. And this from a Raiders fan of 41 years. As long as he doesn't fark with us, i love it. just because so many of the "experts" have said, and quite loudly, that "he cannot succeed in the NFL."

Wadded Beef: Agree about Orton. He sucked for sure.

Kyle Orton completed 58.7% of his passes this year as a Bronco. Tim Tebow is at 45.5%.


If Orton sucked, Tebow is the worst thing ever.

It's the sudden defensive improvement making the difference, not the QB change.

Okay, let's get this out in the open once and for all: there are three reasons the Broncos are succeeding right now, all three of which are significant contributors.

1. The Bronco defense is playing lights-out
2. The Bronco offensive line is opening up huge holes for the running game
3. Tebow is contributing enough, in an unorthodox way, to get by

Take away any one of these elements and the Broncos are 2-9 right now. All three are necessary for the current success.

tnpir: Okay, let's get this out in the open once and for all: there are three reasons the Broncos are succeeding right now, all three of which are significant contributors.

1. The Bronco defense is playing lights-out
2. The Bronco offensive line is opening up huge holes for the running game
3. Tebow is contributing enough, in an unorthodox way, to get by

Take away any one of these elements and the Broncos are 2-9 right now. All three are necessary for the current success.

If 1 and 2 were happening when Orton was the QB, Orton would still be the QB.

tnpir: 3. Tebow is contributing enough, in an unorthodox way, to get by

He's no Mark Sanchez, Tony Romo, etc. He generally doesn't give you that big passing play ability, but he also hasn't thrown any costly INTs yet, either. I know, I know, he hardly throws enough to get picked off, but the point is he seems to know his limitations, and doesn't to be a gunslinger when things get desperate. I'm a Gators fan, and certainly never expected him to succeed in the NFL, but every Sunday it seems I end up with a massive, raging Tebowner.

PowerSlacker: tnpir: Okay, let's get this out in the open once and for all: there are three reasons the Broncos are succeeding right now, all three of which are significant contributors.

1. The Bronco defense is playing lights-out
2. The Bronco offensive line is opening up huge holes for the running game
3. Tebow is contributing enough, in an unorthodox way, to get by

Take away any one of these elements and the Broncos are 2-9 right now. All three are necessary for the current success.

If 1 and 2 were happening when Orton was the QB, Orton would still be the QB.

If Orton were still the QB, the holes that develop on the inside dive wouldn't be there because linebackers wouldn't have to follow assignments in order to stop the option. Tebow being named quarterback has had much to do with the success of the running game. Of course, you can try running the dive option with Orton, I'm sure that would be a very successful strategy...

PowerSlacker: Take away any one of these elements and the Broncos are 2-9 right now. All three are necessary for the current success.

If 1 and 2 were happening when Orton was the QB, Orton would still be the QB.

Perhaps true, but for whatever reason, when the rest of the team says Tebow is inspiring them to play their asses off, you have to believe it. Apparently Orton did not instill that kind of confidence; the only person who was hand-core for Orton was Brandon Lloyd.

Look, Tebow the person annoys me, and as a lifetime Bronco fan it pains me to some degree to root for him. But once he came in, the entire team started kicking ass and taking names, and for that I have to give Tebow props.

HST's Dead Carcass: Marcus Aurelius: Without Jesus he would have been tackled for a loss.

There's some kid down in Texas who's prayer to God about getting his dad off the booze so he'd stop beating the whole family failed to get through because Timmy needed a field goal missed in OT so he could lead the team to glory.

Because an all-knowing, all-seeing omniscient super being is single threaded? I mean if we're going to go with the whole "God" concept I think we can stipulate he can multi-task.

chimp_ninja: Willis McGahee does the heavy lifting.

Um...that's what a running back is supposed to do.

GimpyNip: Ugh....the only thing more annoying than ESPN's Tebow coverage is this stevie Johnson story. Woody Paige is intentionally acting glib with his "Stevie Johnson was mocking 9/11" argument. STFU, you know that he wasn't and the fact that you're insuiating that to rage debate is more offensive than what Johnson did in the first place.

/Jets fan
//Thought the Johnson thing was funny
///Thought what Johnson did the rest of the game was even funnier

I was disappointed that Dan Patrick got so worked up over it as well. Some of the ESPN talking heads will get "upset" over anything just to further the controversy, but I thought DP would skip this.

"Tebow is six feet three and 245 pounds, all thick polygons and smooth flat planes and inescapable corn-fed handsomeness. He's wearing a billowy white shirt and loose-fitting jeans that somehow only underscore the solidity of his bulk, like a tarpaulin draped over a concrete pylon. You can see why coaches have always wanted to deploy his body as a battering ram. ..."

A good running game and a good defense can beat a lot of teams, especially since the passing threat is so prominent throughout the rest of the league.

There will be a shift back to focusing on the run eventually. I just hope the Broncos don't make the playoffs before then.

Pumpernickel bread: "Tebow is six feet three and 245 pounds, all thick polygons and smooth flat planes and inescapable corn-fed handsomeness. He's wearing a billowy white shirt and loose-fitting jeans that somehow only underscore the solidity of his bulk, like a tarpaulin draped over a concrete pylon. You can see why coaches have always wanted to deploy his body as a battering ram. ..."

I wonder if that writer looks back at that article and thinks "WTF was I thinking?"

IAmRight: I especially love that people who are paid for their opinions and to talk about every stupid thought they have with us would look down on someone and tell them that they should in no way express themselves. It's not enough that 95 percent of non-QBs are unrecognizable to even most football fans due to the helmets and lack of coverage of anyone else...now, during their three or so hours of spotlight, they shouldn't even be allowed to do anything that makes them stand out from anyone else, either.

I wonder if ESPN people are making a bigger deal out of Johnson's dance to try and detract from the Syracuse story that they've been quiet on for the past few years.