So what? We've got better tech now, it's best to encourage further R&D on that.

I don't think I've bought an incandescent bulb in years.

So, basically we should not use any technology more recent than the late 1800s, stupidmitter?

Is there a prize for this being the 100th time this subject has been greenlit?

You tell 'em subby!
Now we need to get after those bastards who regulated my ability to produce my own cancer drugs using apricot pits.

strictly speaking you can build improved versions of them. versions that existed before the law was passed. so go fark yourself submitter


in related news.. i had always had good CFLs - i have 6 or 7 year old CFLs that are as good as new, light up fast, no noticable loss in brightness, etc. I finally encountered some crappy ones - like people complain about - the apartment complex we rent from until our house is done installed CFLs in the bathroom. the damn things didn't last a year before burning out and taking a minute to reach full brightness. i mean, wtf? those were problems with prototyopes from the 90s, how the farking hell cheap do you have to be to buy CFLs that shiatty in 2011?!

Nothing happened before January 21, 2009. Duh.

No dammit, we need lights so inefficient they can work as a small oven! This is Communism!

I put a cfl above my stove the day i moved in, it still lights every day no problem 2 years later.

Kazan: strictly speaking you can build improved versions of them. versions that existed before the law was passed. so go fark yourself submitter


in related news.. i had always had good CFLs - i have 6 or 7 year old CFLs that are as good as new, light up fast, no noticable loss in brightness, etc. I finally encountered some crappy ones - like people complain about - the apartment complex we rent from until our house is done installed CFLs in the bathroom. the damn things didn't last a year before burning out and taking a minute to reach full brightness. i mean, wtf? those were problems with prototyopes from the 90s, how the farking hell cheap do you have to be to buy CFLs that shiatty in 2011?!

Yeah, I had some like that in my old apartment, I think I bought em from Wal-Mart.

Never again. I left em there for the new tenants.

sigh

does this mean that I need to stock up? for reals? will I be able to buy bulbs still if they are made overseas?

sigh

/do they make CFLs which dont flicker and have a similar spectrum to my current incandescent bubs??

GAT_00: This is Communism

Try again, Bucko.

I love the controversy America's dumb-fark Republicans have tried to create around light bulbs. It really shows how out of touch they truly are with everything.

namatad: /do they make CFLs which dont flicker and have a similar spectrum to my current incandescent bubs??

They have. For at least five years.

I'm still pissed that I can't light my home with whale oil anymore...

Link (new window)

Sure, Bush did it, but Obama's at fault for not fixing it. So it's Obama's incandescent bulb ban.

IgG4: I'm still pissed that I can't light my home with whale oil anymore...

I tried to install a gaslight system but the words "fire hazard" kept coming up in the conversation.

namatad: sigh

does this mean that I need to stock up? for reals? will I be able to buy bulbs still if they are made overseas?

sigh

/do they make CFLs which dont flicker and have a similar spectrum to my current incandescent bubs??

yes they make CFLs that don't flicker (i've never had a CFL that flickered.. even the cheap ones i mentioned above) and have the inferior unnatural yellow spectrum of incandescent.


why the fark would you want to continue using that off-balanced yellow light that incandescent bulbs produce? i mean seriously... get true white light bulbs - everything in your house will look better



cameroncrazy1984: For at least five years.

closer to ten.

Kazan: why the fark would you want to continue using that off-balanced yellow light that incandescent bulbs produce? i mean seriously... get true white light bulbs - everything in your house will look better



cameroncrazy1984: For at least five years.

closer to ten.

meh. my brain is used to the warm glow. (stupid old brain).
and yah, the flicker was REALLLLY annoying back in the day so I stopped getting them.
guess in theory it might be time to try yet again.

stupid changes
/get off my lawn

But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

jaylectricity: But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

it's an energy efficiency standard - % of power consumed that turns into light. essentially a watts per lumen rule.

incandescent bulbs are better described as "inefficient heating elements that create waste light" than light bulbs.

Edison did not invent the light bulb. Credit should probably go to Humphrey Davy.

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: This is Communism

Try again, Bucko.

Sarcasm, you utterly fail at it.

Kazan: jaylectricity: But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

it's an energy efficiency standard - % of power consumed that turns into light. essentially a watts per lumen rule.

incandescent bulbs are better described as "inefficient heating elements that create waste light" than light bulbs.

My point is that the loss of 100 watt bulbs will barely be noticed, since most fixtures use 60 watt bulbs.

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: This is Communism

Try again, Bucko.

So you are calling former President Bush a Fascist? I guess it was time you finally owned up to that fact.

/Yeah, I know - feeding the troll...

I'm a fan of LEDs myself, but the LED bulbs are still way too expensive for me to invest in. Lights that are on constantly can have a great boon from CFLs. But if they are turned on and off frequently, their life shortens dramatically.

jaylectricity: But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

we get down to getting rid of 40 watt bulbs in 2013 or 14 if I remember correctly

cameroncrazy1984: jaylectricity: But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

we get down to getting rid of 40 watt bulbs in 2013 or 14 if I remember correctly

And appliance bulbs? Especially for stoves.

I mean, come on. This Easy Bake Oven ain't gonna work with no damn CFLs.

Demetrius: cameroncrazy1984: jaylectricity: But 40, 60, and 75 watt versions are still OK?

/most indoor light fixtures are UL listed for 60 watts or less

we get down to getting rid of 40 watt bulbs in 2013 or 14 if I remember correctly

And appliance bulbs? Especially for stoves.

I mean, come on. This Easy Bake Oven ain't gonna work with no damn CFLs.

I think those kinds of bulbs are separate from light fixture bulbs and thus are excepted from the ban.

jaylectricity: My point is that the loss of 100 watt bulbs will barely be noticed, since most fixtures use 60 watt bulbs.


The 100 watt goes away next year, 75 the year after that, then 60, then smaller stuff. Something like that. I don't have the full schedule memorized.

Kazan: the apartment complex we rent from until our house is done installed CFLs in the bathroom. the damn things didn't last a year before burning out and taking a minute to reach full brightness. i mean, wtf? those were problems with prototyopes from the 90s, how the farking hell cheap do you have to be to buy CFLs that shiatty in 2011?!

There are different qualities of CFLs... effectively you get what you pay for. If you buy the cheap ones or the contractor grade, you will be lucky if they last a year.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Demetrius: This Easy Bake Oven ain't gonna work with no damn CFLs.

Tell the kid to build her own solar oven.

"Kid" nothin'. That's some high-quality dessert cakes right there!

Dusk-You-n-Me: Link (new window)

Very interesting.

I'm a forward thinker. That's why I engineered myself to be able to see in the dark while also being bio-luminescent.

Kazan: why the fark would you want to continue using that off-balanced yellow light that incandescent bulbs produce? i mean seriously... get true white light bulbs - everything in your house will look better

Some people with sensitive eyes can't stand them. The brightness of them really hurts my eyes. I will be seriously stockpiling 40 and 60 watt incandescent bulbs -- not that I haven't been for the past year or so. They're the only things that don't hurt my eyes. That, or strings of Christmas lights -- which are the most common lights on in my house.

I get enough migraines without extra help from the light bulbs in my house.

Time to make some cash on the black market.

make me some tea: So what? We've got better tech now, it's best to encourage further R&D on that.

I don't think I've bought an incandescent bulb in years.

I was going to say, "I've not bought a phonograph in nearly 60 years."

I finally got stocked up enough with incandescents so I don't care anymore. I am good until LED's are better and cheaper.

GaryPDX: Time to make some cash on the black market.

You can never go poor counting on the gullibility of the willfully ignornant.

NuttierThanEver: GaryPDX: Time to make some cash on the black market.

You can never go poor counting on the gullibility of the willfully ignornant.

A sucker born every minute. BTW, I'm not impressed with the mercury laden Gore bulbs that come with "hazardous waste" disposal instructions.

I_C_Weener: make me some tea: So what? We've got better tech now, it's best to encourage further R&D on that.

I don't think I've bought an incandescent bulb in years.

I was going to say, "I've not bought a phonograph in nearly 60 years."

hahaha

After whale oil I switched to electric arc lights. The quality of the light is literally sublime.

GaryPDX: NuttierThanEver: GaryPDX: Time to make some cash on the black market.

You can never go poor counting on the gullibility of the willfully ignornant.

A sucker born every minute. BTW, I'm not impressed with the mercury laden Gore bulbs that come with "hazardous waste" disposal instructions.

Man, you just believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet, don't you? You're the reason Snopes exists.

Have you seen my new electric car?

cameroncrazy1984: Man, you just believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet, don't you? You're the reason Snopes exists.

Last time I checked, Cameron, Edison bulbs don't come with a MSDS. CFL's do.

Oh great. Is there anything dumber than a THEY'RE TAKIN MY BULBS thread on fark.com?

GaryPDX: cameroncrazy1984: Man, you just believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet, don't you? You're the reason Snopes exists.

Last time I checked, Cameron, Edison bulbs don't come with a MSDS. CFL's do.

There's very little little mercury in each bulb - about 1/100th of the mercury in mercury thermometers that your mother stuck up your bum when you were a kid. Plus, the mercury vapor dissipates quickly in a well ventilated room.

Plus, according to the EPA, the people susceptible to mercury poisoning are fetuses and young kids. So what the fark do I have to worry about? After all, I'm not a fetus.