Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?

Clinton: "In your whole miserable life, you had one idea that I consider 'thoughtful'."
Submitter: Clinton endorses Newt, whargarbl derp jihad.

Super Chronic: Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?

I'd go with FloydA's answer to respond to that one. Go right square at the target for maximum trollin'.

GAT_00: I wondered when he was going to start farking with Newt.

I'm okay with this.

Andy Andy: Super Chronic: Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?

I'd go with FloydA's answer to respond to that one. Go right square at the target for maximum trollin'.


He's been doing it for years. The man's still absolutely lethal with a microphone, and interviewers ambush him at their own peril.

And this was one hell of a kiss of death. Newt's immigration comments had the Freep crowd up in arms as it was.

This thread is full of win already.

I can just imagine the cognitive dissonance this will produce in some of the right-wing.

"Hurr, I likes that conservative Newt Gingrich fella!"
"Durr, I hates that liberal Bill Clinton fella!"
"Buh? Bill Clinton said he likes something Newt Gingrich said? Uh, wait, but, um -"



Good job, Bill. Way to screw with them.

clinton just sank your battlenewt. When are these republican non-contenders gonna drop out of the race? Do we really have to wait till primaries before they stop letting bachman and santorum on stage?

johnnieconnie: This thread is full of win already.

You should read the comment thread at the bottom of TFA...

Bill Clinton-still trolling the shiat out of the GOP after all these years. Crazy old bastard.

Wasteland: Andy Andy: Super Chronic: Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?

I'd go with FloydA's answer to respond to that one. Go right square at the target for maximum trollin'.


He's been doing it for years. The man's still absolutely lethal with a microphone, and interviewers ambush him at their own peril.

And this was one hell of a kiss of death. Newt's immigration comments had the Freep crowd up in arms as it was.

yeah but Bill Clinton does enjoy continued popularity with independents and moderates so I don't think it was an attempt to fark with Newt as it would wind up doing more to help him than hurt him with the rabid base.

Wasteland: Andy Andy: Super Chronic: Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?

I'd go with FloydA's answer to respond to that one. Go right square at the target for maximum trollin'.


He's been doing it for years. The man's still absolutely lethal with a microphone, and interviewers ambush him at their own peril.

And this was one hell of a kiss of death. Newt's immigration comments had the Freep crowd up in arms as it was.

Meh, he said it about a week ago right? If his poll numbers haven't take a crap by now, I think he'll (unfortunately) be ok.

I'm wondering how much of Gingrich's appeal is because the mouthbreathers view him as the guy who 'Stuck It To Blowjob Billy'

More than they care to admit is my guess.

Andy Andy: Super Chronic: Bill Clinton did an interview with Newsmax? The hell?
I'd go with FloydA's answer to respond to that one. Go right square at the target for maximum trollin'.

Whew. I was about to have a stroke. Gotta hand it to Clinton and Obama, they know how to take a prime shot once in a while.

sheilanagig: KiltedBastich: Good job, Bill. Way to screw with them.

I'd like to see more of it. The more Democratic endorsements of Republican candidates that get made, the more Republican voters will get turned off to their own candidates. They might even get so confused that they'll stay home on voting day because the choices are all endorsed by liberal politicians for things they've done that appeal to liberal voters.

It will be funny to watch the candidates trying to get away from being hugged by liberals.

is this the thread where we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best Republican President in the past 50 years?

Jake Havechek: Knowing what we know about Gingrich now, he could give Clinton tips on being a serial adulterer.

Bill just needed tips on getting away with it.

skullkrusher: sheilanagig: KiltedBastich: Good job, Bill. Way to screw with them.

I'd like to see more of it. The more Democratic endorsements of Republican candidates that get made, the more Republican voters will get turned off to their own candidates. They might even get so confused that they'll stay home on voting day because the choices are all endorsed by liberal politicians for things they've done that appeal to liberal voters.

It will be funny to watch the candidates trying to get away from being hugged by liberals.

is this the thread where we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best Republican President in the past 50 years?

Bill only trysted with women.

ClipJoint: johnnieconnie: This thread is full of win already.

You should read the comment thread at the bottom of TFA...

Normally I wouldn't venture into such a comment thread, but I can see there are some choice statements there.

sheilanagig: skullkrusher: is this the thread where we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best Republican President in the past 50 years?

Well, the sex scandal fits, but he actually managed to balance the budget. I'm not sure after the super-committee decision whether that makes him either a Democrat or a Republican. It's that or the Republicans are making sure it doesn't happen again for Obama.

I just don't see the "Awww, old Billy's doing it for the LULZ" going on here. Bill Clinton was not a liberal President. Hell, he made "triangulation" almost a household word. Signing off on G-L-B and NAFTA really don't establish his bona fides as a liberal lion sticking it to the GOP.

hinten: skullkrusher: sheilanagig: KiltedBastich: Good job, Bill. Way to screw with them.

I'd like to see more of it. The more Democratic endorsements of Republican candidates that get made, the more Republican voters will get turned off to their own candidates. They might even get so confused that they'll stay home on voting day because the choices are all endorsed by liberal politicians for things they've done that appeal to liberal voters.

It will be funny to watch the candidates trying to get away from being hugged by liberals.

is this the thread where we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best Republican President in the past 50 years?

No, this is the thread were we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best President in the past 50 years.

Certainly the best of my lifetime

/born under Gerry

If I say to you that Hitler was a good public speaker and really knew how to work a crowd that does not mean I am endorsing Hitler.

skullkrusher: I just don't see the "Awww, old Billy's doing it for the LULZ" going on here. Bill Clinton was not a liberal President.

Uh, no shiat?
Compared to the modern GOP, he was an extreme super-socialist radical liberal, rest assured (just like Nixon), but the US hasn't had a Liberal president in quite some time.

You know, he might have said this because he actually thinks the idea has merit. There used to be a time when people based their support of an idea on something more than the D or R beside the guy's name.

I just find newt's immigration stance odd, given his love of child labor. It seems oddly.... human.

GhostFish: If I say to you that Hitler was a good public speaker and really knew how to work a crowd that does not mean I am endorsing Hitler.

We're talking about a crowd that thought Time magazine was outright endorsing and congratulating Osama Bin Laden.

Great_Milenko: You know, he might have said this because he actually thinks the idea has merit. There used to be a time when people based their support of an idea on something more than the D or R beside the guy's name.

Bill is incredibly smart, though. It's harder to believe that he wouldn't see the ramifications among the GOP base resulting from his having given Newt his support in any form for any policy, than it is to believe that he's just trolling.
The fact that he wasn't actually a staunch superlib doesn't matter; he was demonized and has a stigma associated with him.

tomcatadam: skullkrusher: I just don't see the "Awww, old Billy's doing it for the LULZ" going on here. Bill Clinton was not a liberal President.

Uh, no shiat?
Compared to the modern GOP, he was an extreme super-socialist radical liberal, rest assured (just like Nixon), but the US hasn't had a Liberal president in quite some time.

which they told us at the time, ad nauseum. Didn't make it true then, doesn't make it true now.

skullkrusher: sheilanagig: skullkrusher: is this the thread where we pretend that Bill Clinton WASN'T the best Republican President in the past 50 years?

Well, the sex scandal fits, but he actually managed to balance the budget. I'm not sure after the super-committee decision whether that makes him either a Democrat or a Republican. It's that or the Republicans are making sure it doesn't happen again for Obama.

I just don't see the "Awww, old Billy's doing it for the LULZ" going on here. Bill Clinton was not a liberal President. Hell, he made "triangulation" almost a household word. Signing off on G-L-B and NAFTA really don't establish his bona fides as a liberal lion sticking it to the GOP.

Yeah, but it's not really about the actual nature of his policies and presidency, it's about the narrative constructed about his policies and presidency by the extreme right-wing of the GOP, for whom Bill Clinton is a pinko commie libby-lib-lib.

That's the narrative that lets him screw with the Republicans. It's not necessary for him to be a real flaming liberal if they insist on calling him a flaming liberal and treating him like a flaming liberal. That you or I or anyone else with at least a passing grasp of reality can see this is an absurdity doesn't really matter to the ideologues on the extreme right; it certainly has never stopped them before on any other issue.

Sure, Bill Clinton looks like Republican compared to 1960's to 1970's Republicans. But the actual Republicans of today don't see him that way, and Bill certainly has no love for the current Republican party. Thus, we have the subtle and epic trolling we are discussing here today.

This is pure Bill Clinton brilliance. Totally making Newt look bad to the conservative right wing voters while making himself look open minded to those on the right.

Good job Mr. President.

sheilanagig: It will be funny to watch the candidates trying to get away from being hugged by liberals.

What do you mean, "will be"? Huntsman has been trying to distance himself from all the nice things Obama keeps saying about him, and Romney's having a hard time dealing with the fact the Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare,

KiltedBastich: Yeah, but it's not really about the actual nature of his policies and presidency, it's about the narrative constructed about his policies and presidency by the extreme right-wing of the GOP, for whom Bill Clinton is a pinko commie libby-lib-lib.

That's the narrative that lets him screw with the Republicans. It's not necessary for him to be a real flaming liberal if they insist on calling him a flaming liberal and treating him like a flaming liberal. That you or I or anyone else with at least a passing grasp of reality can see this is an absurdity doesn't really matter to the ideologues on the extreme right; it certainly has never stopped them before on any other issue.

Sure, Bill Clinton looks like Republican compared to 1960's to 1970's Republicans. But the actual Republicans of today don't see him that way, and Bill certainly has no love for the current Republican party. Thus, we have the subtle and epic trolling we are discussing here today.

"Clinton praised Gingrich's response, saying it "splits the difference between the immigration reforms proposed by President Bush and President Obama, which would give a path to citizenship, and would be a version of what President Reagan did.""

If his goal was to subtly sabotage Newt Gingrich, I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.
Comparing a Republican candidate's policy position to that of Ronald Reagan is not how you go about alienating him from the rabid base.

Dwight_Yeast: Romney's having a hard time dealing with the fact the Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare,

That would be a great debate to watch.

Obama and Romney, subject: health care. Go!

PanicMan: Dwight_Yeast: Romney's having a hard time dealing with the fact the Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare,

That would be a great debate to watch.

Obama and Romney, subject: health care. Go!

Romney and Romney would be even better

GAT_00: I wondered when he was going to start farking with Newt.

I don't think he's trolling here, but holy fark did he Maximum Troll the piss out of Newt in the 90s. I'm smiling just thinking about Clinton leaning back in his chair with a wry smile while Gingrich throws a rod.



/you gotta be really farking dumb or idiot-brave to try to troll the master

skullkrusher: PanicMan: Dwight_Yeast: Romney's having a hard time dealing with the fact the Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare,

That would be a great debate to watch.

Obama and Romney, subject: health care. Go!

Romney and Romney would be even better

With Rick Perry as the referee.

skullkrusher: "Clinton praised Gingrich's response, saying it "splits the difference between the immigration reforms proposed by President Bush and President Obama, which would give a path to citizenship, and would be a version of what President Reagan did.""

If his goal was to subtly sabotage Newt Gingrich, I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.
Comparing a Republican candidate's policy position to that of Ronald Reagan is not how you go about alienating him from the rabid base.

You're still thinking like a reasonable person who evaluates a claim mostly based on its merits, rather than based almost entirely on how much you like or dislike the person. An ideological right-wing partisan will get headaches over that statement precisely because it means that he is agreeing with something that someone he hates said. Adding a Reagan reference makes the cognitive dissonance worse, because it makes it harder to ignore and marginalize the statement. It makes it that much harder to simply write off the person as a 'librul' to be ignored as an enemy - which is dangerous for an ideologue because it leads to questioning the basic assumptions of the ideology.

I stand by my original statement. There is a sizable fraction of hard-core right-wing republican voters that are going to have conniptions over this. My best guess is that they are going to try and simply ignore it altogether, pretend it did not happen in their reality in order to avoid dealing with it. Which means, of course, that the most amusing thing we can do is to repeatedly remind them of it.

skullkrusher: Certainly the best of my lifetime

/born under Gerry

While everyone knows I'm a big Clinton fan, saying that he was the best leader in recent memory is entirely arguable (I think he is; just suggesting that you can debate it). A more accurate way of saying it is that he presided over a great time for America - and didn't fark it up. That's the thing about being the prez - you often get blamed for shiat you didn't do, but you can also take credit for good things you had no direct influence on.

/also born under Gerry, shortly after Nixon got on the chopper

dickfreckle: A more accurate way of saying it is that he presided over a great time for America - and didn't fark it up.

I agree 100%. I like to think of Bill Clinton like Joe Torre in 1998. It would take a special sort of farkup to derail the 1998 Yankees.
That said, just not farking it up is often good enough and he didn't embarrass the country and I want to have a beer with him and I want to have sex with 1967 Hillary Clinton.
There, I said it

KiltedBastich: skullkrusher: "Clinton praised Gingrich's response, saying it "splits the difference between the immigration reforms proposed by President Bush and President Obama, which would give a path to citizenship, and would be a version of what President Reagan did.""

If his goal was to subtly sabotage Newt Gingrich, I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.
Comparing a Republican candidate's policy position to that of Ronald Reagan is not how you go about alienating him from the rabid base.

You're still thinking like a reasonable person who evaluates a claim mostly based on its merits, rather than based almost entirely on how much you like or dislike the person. An ideological right-wing partisan will get headaches over that statement precisely because it means that he is agreeing with something that someone he hates said. Adding a Reagan reference makes the cognitive dissonance worse, because it makes it harder to ignore and marginalize the statement. It makes it that much harder to simply write off the person as a 'librul' to be ignored as an enemy - which is dangerous for an ideologue because it leads to questioning the basic assumptions of the ideology.

I stand by my original statement. There is a sizable fraction of hard-core right-wing republican voters that are going to have conniptions over this. My best guess is that they are going to try and simply ignore it altogether, pretend it did not happen in their reality in order to avoid dealing with it. Which means, of course, that the most amusing thing we can do is to repeatedly remind them of it.

fair enough - I just think his comment was on the up and up and any potential sabotage was incidental, not intentional.

Clinton knows that if Hillary is ever to have a shot at the "Big Chair," she would have a better chance as the Sect of State to a two-term Obama than to be sitting the next four years out of government under a Republican administration, especially given that foreign affairs is the most successful area of the Obama presidency. He would love to influence who gets to sit across from Obama in the upcoming election, just to preserve his legacy.

Clinton, more than anyone, is aware of Newt's failures as a leader. Clinton got to sit in the Oval Office and watch as the Republican House effort to impeach him, when Newt was speaker, led to Newt being fired by his own party for incompetence. He knows all Newt's demons and knows that those demons would get a full viewing in a general election. He doesn't want to sabotage Newt at this stage, he'd rather see Newt get the nomination and watch Newt sabotage himself.