Everyone knows that ESPN can no wrong.

feckingmorons: Accidentally the whole thing?

Quite.

I'm sure all the big football guys that cried on ESPN about Paterno didn't do enough are right now beating the tar out of their bosses for hiding this for eight years.

Paterknew

At least when we fark our cousins in the SEC they're near the same age we are.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Paterno did report the abuse and it was his superiors who did nothing.

I thought the guy in the Syracuse case reported it to the police and the police said the statue of limitations had expired. Then the victim went to ESPN to help them get a story together. Either way, they have had this story for a long time and waited until now to expose it.

As bad as ESPN can be with reporting rumor and speculation, in this case (IIRC correctly from Cowherd this past week) they couldn't corroborate the accusations back then.

When did they roast Paterno for anything?

feckingmorons: Am I the only person left who is not a child molester?

Not as long as I'm here.

\they're everywhere, though, sadly

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Paterno did report the abuse and it was his superiors who did nothing.

Technically that appears to be true. However it only covers legality, not morality. He had a moral obligation to make sure the police knew. Instead he worked with the administration to push Sandusky out (he was the head coach in waiting at that point) and may have been involved in burying the information. He definitely continued to watch as Sandusky used Penn State events and facilities with young boys despite knowing he had been accused of child rape, and on at least one occasion ate dinner at the same table as Sandusky and one of his accusers.

Putting aside the moral obligation to report, you cannot excuse what he did after he knew about Sandusky.

Well, that makes perfectly good sense, it only took nine years to confirm the voice on the tape was Laurie Fine... That sounds about right.

ESPN has some serious explaining to do and there had better be some heads rolling for this cover-up.

Local sports radio guy here that is a Syracuse alum put it nicely about a week ago:

Syracuse has had a long-standing relationship with ESPN....Penn State, not so much. That's what it comes down to.

There had been rumors going around Penn state for years, nobody reported it and no college or pro team came looking to hire Sandusky, the defensive mastermind, I said these douchebags who never reported the stories are just as guilty as joepa.

Espn has to get a smackdown, they have a feeling of being above called on their bullshiat, starting with craig james getting mike leech fired because his shiatty WR son didn't get enough playing time.

I am a huge SU fan. That does not change the facts. Jim B. should resign. As the head of the program the buck stops with him. His, and all people in leadership of kids, primary responsibility was to keep those children safe. He failed to do that. He let them be raped. Not knowing about the abuse just shows the level of his neglect.

homeschooled: saber_saw25: I thought the guy in the Syracuse case reported it to the police and the police said the statue of limitations had expired.

No. ESPN outright says "we did not report it to authorities." Also, should've been news.

Ken VeryBigLiar: As bad as ESPN can be with reporting rumor and speculation, in this case (IIRC correctly from Cowherd this past week) they couldn't corroborate the accusations back then.

What couldn't they corroborate THEN that they are able to corroborate now? That's the point. The same information is available to them today as there was in 2003.

jpo2269: Well, that makes perfectly good sense, it only took nine years to confirm the voice on the tape was Laurie Fine... That sounds about right.

ESPN has some serious explaining to do and there had better be some heads rolling for this cover-up.

This, basically.

I'm not saying ESPN reporting it, I'm talking about the victim. From what I understand the victim went to the police before he went to ESPN. The police told the victim that the statue of limitations prevented them from doing anything.

ESPN didn't report it because it was already reported by the guy making the accusations.

This is quite a stretch to compare this to those in charge at PSU.

MugzyBrown: ESPN didn't report it because it was already reported by the guy making the accusations.

This is quite a stretch to compare this to those in charge at PSU.

Not really the same, did you have Sandusky's wife on audio saying he has a problem? I thought this case stunk and was a cash grab but with the audio tape shiat has hit the fan.

If I understand correctly, the accuser went to the cops first and was told the statute of limitations was gone. Should ESPN have called the police after the accuser and said "Hey, this guy is accusing someone of child molestation, but you just told him the statute of limitations had been passed. Just wanted to let you know."

I mean, I guess they could've gone public with the tape to bring down Syracuse faster, but if the statute of limitations has been passed...wouldn't it pretty much become a news story for ESPN? Meaning, they better damn well make sure every thing was in order for fear of facing one hell of a lawsuit?

That being said....
Syracuse/Upstate New York alumni working for ESPN > PSU alumni working for ESPN > Tebow

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't drag their feet on the news story just because of what it would do to Syracuse, then the PSU thing hit and they saw the public reaction to brushing things under the rug.

steamingpile: Not really the same, did you have Sandusky's wife on audio saying he has a problem?

I think you are looking at the wrong part of "not really the same thing".

If we look at the 2002 PSU event in the showers that the GA witnessed versus the story of Bobby Davis...
PSU: Had an eyewitness account that something had happened in their showers. Had knowledge of a past event that involved a police investigation. Possibly had knowledge of a 2000 incident that had another eye witness, but was never officially reported. Nobody involved contacted the authorities.

ESPN: Had a first-hand account that something had happened two decades ago. Had knowledge that the police looked in to it (very briefly) and said the statute of limitations had passed. Possibly had an audio tape (made by the accuser) that had a voice on it that may have been the pedo's wife. Did not contact the authorities.

The two big differences being "the accuser in the ESPN thing had already contacted authorities", "the statute of limitations had passed on the Bobby Davis case".

Those are pretty big differences when trying to compare it to PSU authorities not reporting something to any police authorities when they had knowledge of it the next day.

bulldg4life: steamingpile: Not really the same, did you have Sandusky's wife on audio saying he has a problem?

I think you are looking at the wrong part of "not really the same thing".

If we look at the 2002 PSU event in the showers that the GA witnessed versus the story of Bobby Davis...
PSU: Had an eyewitness account that something had happened in their showers. Had knowledge of a past event that involved a police investigation. Possibly had knowledge of a 2000 incident that had another eye witness, but was never officially reported. Nobody involved contacted the authorities.

ESPN: Had a first-hand account that something had happened two decades ago. Had knowledge that the police looked in to it (very briefly) and said the statute of limitations had passed. Possibly had an audio tape (made by the accuser) that had a voice on it that may have been the pedo's wife. Did not contact the authorities.

The two big differences being "the accuser in the ESPN thing had already contacted authorities", "the statute of limitations had passed on the Bobby Davis case".

Those are pretty big differences when trying to compare it to PSU authorities not reporting something to any police authorities when they had knowledge of it the next day.

Im talking about why espn didn't report it, according to what's come out the guy reported it years ago and was ignored, and brought it back because coaches molesting kids were in the news.

The biggest difference to me is you have a 3rd party connected with the accused admitting on audio tape that the incidents took place. Add that with boheims quick reversal on the validity of the charges almost lead me to believe that they got his wife in there to ask about it and then fired the guy.

Now, if espn has had these audio tapes for a while and not acted then they are scum, some of the stories coming out is that fine asked for sex after giving him money in the past 15 years.

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Paterno did report the abuse and it was his superiors who did nothing.

Up until three weeks ago the only true superior to Joe Paterno in Pennsylvania was God. Everybody in the state answered to him. They didn't go to the cops because Paterno didn't want them to go to the cops.

I don't care if ESPN doesn't get two sources for trades, signings, who's going on IR, whatever. But if you are going to accuse somebody of raping children, and even the cops don't care - you better have a shaitload of evidence and people willing to go on the record.

I guess ESPN was too busy getting Texas Tech's coach fired to mess with a coach in New York.

Same thing I've been saying since the Paterno thing hit: Most of you Internet Heroes who swear you would have swooped in and saved all the Sandusky children at the first little sign of abuse are the same people who, if you saw a little old lady getting mugged, would put your head down, walk away quickly, and hope nobody noticed you were a witness.

Bottom line is that both history and all kinds of psychology studies have proven that the vast majority of people will turn a blind eye to wrongdoing going on around them. The hypocrisy of those who are unwilling to admit this is really bothersome.

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: Is it my imagination, or do these people all seem to deserve each other?

Except for the victims.

mikaloyd: I guess ESPN was too busy getting Texas Tech's coach fired to mess with a coach in New York.

Too bad nobody tried to molest Craig James' kid. ESPN would have been all over that!

Komplex: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Paterno did report the abuse and it was his superiors who did nothing.

Up until three weeks ago the only true superior to Joe Paterno in Pennsylvania was God. Everybody in the state answered to him. They didn't go to the cops because Paterno didn't want them to go to the cops.

I don't care if ESPN doesn't get two sources for trades, signings, who's going on IR, whatever. But if you are going to accuse somebody of raping children, and even the cops don't care - you better have a shaitload of evidence and people willing to go on the record.

So let me get this straight - if you're going to accuse someone of raping children you better have a lot of evidence, unless you're Joe Paterno. Joe Paterno is God, and just knows when crimes are happening and should have should swooped in and destroyed the offender with his laser beam eyes.

Is that correct?

bigsteve3OOO: I am a huge SU fan. That does not change the facts. Jim B. should resign. As the head of the program the buck stops with him. His, and all people in leadership of kids, primary responsibility was to keep those children safe. He failed to do that. He let them be raped. Not knowing about the abuse just shows the level of his neglect.

That's not his responsibility at all, and he shouldn't be punished if he truly didn't know. However, I think he deserves some sort of punishment up to and including dismissal because of how he attacked the accusers in the media.

homeschooled: saber_saw25: I'm not saying ESPN reporting it, I'm talking about the victim. From what I understand the victim went to the police before he went to ESPN. The police told the victim that the statue of limitations prevented them from doing anything.

When I say "reporting" I mean NEWS REPORTING, not reporting the crime to the cops. The cops already knew (although they didn't have the tape from what I understand.) I'm failing to understand why this wasn't a NEWS story. He would've been fired.

Agreed.

balloot: mikaloyd: I guess ESPN was too busy getting Texas Tech's coach fired to mess with a coach in New York.

Too bad nobody tried to molest Craig James' kid. ESPN would have been all over that!

Nobody would risk molesting a whiny douchebag though.