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(I Heart Chaos)   Report: Smoking may be beneficial to long-distance runners   (iheartchaos.com ) divider line
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2011-11-27 07:04:23 PM  
You might be able to go the distance subby, but keep smoking and your life won't.

/Cherry picked data is cherry picked
 
2011-11-27 07:04:30 PM  
cinematicallycorrect.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-11-27 07:06:04 PM  
I'm going to win the marathon in the next olympics. W00t!
 
2011-11-27 07:06:17 PM  

hicksfa2: You might be able to go the distance subby, but keep smoking and your life won't.

/Cherry picked data is cherry picked


That's what the article said.
 
2011-11-27 07:06:52 PM  
This just in: You can slant your data to prove almost anything.
Corollary: This is why you can't trust studies produced by the company pushing the new drug/treatment/nutritional theory.
Sub-text: This is why we need independent review panels for EVERYTHING.
 
2011-11-27 07:06:59 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-27 07:07:47 PM  
The author of that study is trolling the medical establishment.

I approve.
 
2011-11-27 07:12:31 PM  
Wow, so those guys who show up to the gym reeking of smoke are on to something after all.
 
2011-11-27 07:14:28 PM  
My experience shows that smoking is not helpful for running. Your results may vary, but I doubt it.
 
2011-11-27 07:17:00 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 600x667]


I see we're at the "Scientists out to kill us again" part of the cycle already
 
2011-11-27 07:18:00 PM  
I would imagine that smoking would hinder your performance. I know that you would have to slow down to light your cigarette affecting your finish time.
 
2011-11-27 07:19:45 PM  
strangeguitar: I would imagine that smoking would hinder your performance. I know that you would have to slow down to light your cigarette affecting your finish time.

That's why you light one BEFORE the race and then chain smoke all the way to the finish line. Duh.
 
2011-11-27 07:20:56 PM  

bmihura: My experience shows that smoking is not helpful for running. Your results may vary, but I doubt it.


cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.
 
2011-11-27 07:22:13 PM  
Cyclists used to smoke while training... they thought it was just like resistance training.
 
2011-11-27 07:22:51 PM  
CSB....

The best runner on my high school Cross Country Team (I know qualified/competed in the state race too) used to smoke frequently after practice. I went to a big high school too.
 
2011-11-27 07:25:41 PM  

outatime: strangeguitar: I would imagine that smoking would hinder your performance. I know that you would have to slow down to light your cigarette affecting your finish time.

That's why you light one BEFORE the race and then chain smoke all the way to the finish line. Duh.


Challenge in college: Race up a hill with a Marlboro Red 100. Has to be lit before crossing the starting line, and must be finished down to the Marlboro text before crossing the finish line.

Also, in the smoking events: Chainsmoking race to smoke a pack of cigarettes, one a time. Cigarettes must be put out in water to avoid cheating (letting the cigarette burn without putting it out).

All with cash prizes of course.

In more srs newz, I remember a study which showed that smokers fared better in high altitudes without supplemental oxygen. So light one up before you head for Everest, chum.
 
2011-11-27 07:27:16 PM  
For those that don't get the joke, the scientist is basically trolling the current public health approach to disease.

They do a large, retrospective study, identify a population (ie, those w/ or w/o a disease) then look for what factors they had in common. They then say, "Aha, A causes B, therefore, if we eliminate A, then we will reduce B! We need to get the government to do something about A!"

An example of this is the idea that high cholesterol causes heart disease, and therefore, if you take a statin, then you will be less likely to get heart disease. However, there are actually no studies proving that statins lower heart disease - they've only really been proven to lower cholesterol. But if you bring this up, the cardiologists look at you as if you just said the earth was flat. In fact, I've been to several medical grand rounds conferences where "respected" cardiologists argued the government should put statins in the drinking water (completely ignoring the myalgias and hepatotoxicity they can inflict on certain people...).

What this guy did with the smoking study was mock this paradigm - he identified 3 factors that are beneficial for long distance runners:
-elevated serum Hb
-increased lung volume
-decreased body weight

Emphysema (which is due to smoking ~90% of the time) causes all these changes. Your serum Hb goes up because the lack of oxygenation causes the body to think it's anemic, air is trapped in the lungs due to airway collapse secondary to the loss of elasticity, and you lose body weight in part due to the corticosteroids and debilitating illness.

He then concludes the article by lamenting that the government isn't encouraging the population to smoke as much as they should.

It's a complete mockery of the post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc fallacy that plagues the majority of today's public health research.
 
2011-11-27 07:27:51 PM  
It's very beneficial for kung fu fighting old ladies (new window).
 
2011-11-27 07:31:51 PM  

404 page not found: bmihura: My experience shows that smoking is not helpful for running. Your results may vary, but I doubt it.

[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.


...and from having seen quite a few shoops in my time.
 
2011-11-27 07:34:03 PM  

nosehat: It's very beneficial for kung fu fighting old ladies (new window).


I see that, and raise you this (new window)
 
2011-11-27 07:35:06 PM  

404 page not found: bmihura: My experience shows that smoking is not helpful for running. Your results may vary, but I doubt it.

[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.


Nice tits!
 
2011-11-27 07:35:33 PM  

bighasbeen: nosehat: It's very beneficial for kung fu fighting old ladies (new window).

I see that, and raise you this (new window)


Ahh... even better!
 
2011-11-27 07:35:43 PM  
Meh, why the hell not?
 
2011-11-27 07:35:55 PM  
Hey, cyclists knew this in the 1920s!

i39.tinypic.com
 
2011-11-27 07:36:40 PM  

nosehat: It's very beneficial for kung fu fighting old ladies (new window).


That was pretty badass. The foot coming outta the wall was a bit much, but badass none the less.
 
2011-11-27 07:39:09 PM  
cough
 
2011-11-27 07:43:36 PM  
A friend of mine is a marathoner and university professor whose research is all about smoking cessation. Her head is going to explode when I send her this.
 
2011-11-27 07:45:17 PM  

404 page not found: Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.


I call shenanigans. You aren't Kenyan.
 
2011-11-27 07:45:21 PM  
how about for guys who can barely walk to the subway station?
 
2011-11-27 07:45:27 PM  

bighasbeen: nosehat: It's very beneficial for kung fu fighting old ladies (new window).

I see that, and raise you this (new window)


I love that movie so much!
 
2011-11-27 07:46:20 PM  

404 page not found:
[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.


You couldn't even be bothered to scroll to the second page of google image results for the image to steal and re-host?

Wow. You are one lazy-ass troll.
 
2011-11-27 07:47:49 PM  
Well, yeah, if their opponents are busy wheezing and wondering when their next smoke break will be, runners will definitely be at an advantage.
 
2011-11-27 07:48:54 PM  
Know how I know no one read TFA?

/Snickering
//Nicely done, author, nicely done...
 
2011-11-27 07:55:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: This just in: You can slant your data to prove almost anything.
Corollary: This is why you can't trust studies produced by the company pushing the new drug/treatment/nutritional theory.
Sub-text: This is why we need independent review panels for EVERYTHING.


You mean I can't trust Merck when they tell me my teenaged daughter MUST have Gardasil, and have it this very minute, or else?
 
2011-11-27 07:56:03 PM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-27 07:59:23 PM  

Splinshints: 404 page not found:
[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.

You couldn't even be bothered to scroll to the second page of google image results for the image to steal and re-host?

Wow. You are one lazy-ass troll.


Splinshints: 404 page not found:
[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.

You couldn't even be bothered to scroll to the second page of google image results for the image to steal and re-host?

Wow. You are one lazy-ass troll.


6dollarshirts.com
 
2011-11-27 08:03:10 PM  
Hey, Smoking also may be beneficial to your local Emergency Medical Services, as well as your local pulminologist and cardiologist practice.

So Light one up! You're one STEMI away from helping fund 911!
 
2011-11-27 08:04:09 PM  

PsiChi: Gyrfalcon: This just in: You can slant your data to prove almost anything.
Corollary: This is why you can't trust studies produced by the company pushing the new drug/treatment/nutritional theory.
Sub-text: This is why we need independent review panels for EVERYTHING.

You mean I can't trust Merck when they tell me my teenaged daughter MUST have Gardasil, and have it this very minute, or else?


Um, Vaccines are a little different than "acai berries will extend your life".
 
2011-11-27 08:05:21 PM  
PsiChi: Gyrfalcon: This just in: You can slant your data to prove almost anything.
Corollary: This is why you can't trust studies produced by the company pushing the new drug/treatment/nutritional theory.
Sub-text: This is why we need independent review panels for EVERYTHING.

You mean I can't trust Merck when they tell me my teenaged daughter MUST have Gardasil, and have it this very minute, or else?


Yeah, it's not like anyone else has ever looked at HPV Prophylaxis.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD009069/full

Idiot.
 
2011-11-27 08:25:56 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: [i291.photobucket.com image 500x333]


Came for this, leaving impressed.
 
2011-11-27 08:30:24 PM  

404 page not found: Splinshints: 404 page not found:
[cafedarkness.files.wordpress.com image 400x536]
Don't knock it until you've tried it. This is me winning a 10K. That's actually the 3rd ciggy I smoked during the race.

You couldn't even be bothered to scroll to the second page of google image results for the image to steal and re-host?

Wow. You are one lazy ass-troll.



FTFY
 
2011-11-27 08:33:34 PM  
Dr. Aragon: "Has he asked for anything special?"

Dr. Melik: "Yes, this morning for breakfast he requested something called ... [checks medical records] ... wheat germ, organic honey, and tiger's milk."

Dr. Aragon [chuckling]: "Oh, yes. those were the charmed substances that some years ago were felt to contain life-preserving properties."

Dr. Melik: "You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or ... hot fudge?"

Dr. Aragon: "Those were thought to be unhealthy -- precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true."

Sleeper
 
2011-11-27 08:37:43 PM  
Remember, the first guy to run a marathon DIED after finishing it. Ergo: RUNNING KILLS.
 
2011-11-27 08:38:05 PM  
This reminds me of that Geek Tag article extolling the virtues of cheating on your spouse.
 
2011-11-27 08:39:07 PM  
So what you're saying is that Ponyboy had NO excuse not to be a champion runner? I KNEW it!!
 
2011-11-27 08:58:25 PM  
Smoking runners eh?

www.pridedepot.com
 
2011-11-27 09:07:55 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: CSB....

The best runner on my high school Cross Country Team (I know qualified/competed in the state race too) used to smoke frequently after practice. I went to a big high school too.


I can back this up with personal experience since I was in the top 5 of my CC team my Jr. and Senor year (ran low 18's but cracked 17 once or twice) and I smoked quite often myself, wasn't no pack a day but easily had a least a smoke or two day.
 
2011-11-27 09:13:02 PM  
Two things:

1. I don't care what other people put in their bodies.

2. I don't care what other people think about what I put in my body.
 
2011-11-27 09:13:31 PM  

BronyMedic: PsiChi: Gyrfalcon: This just in: You can slant your data to prove almost anything.
Corollary: This is why you can't trust studies produced by the company pushing the new drug/treatment/nutritional theory.
Sub-text: This is why we need independent review panels for EVERYTHING.

You mean I can't trust Merck when they tell me my teenaged daughter MUST have Gardasil, and have it this very minute, or else?

Yeah, it's not like anyone else has ever looked at HPV Prophylaxis.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD009069/full

Idiot.


I've GOT to get my thesis in for that big grant money!
 
2011-11-27 09:29:29 PM  
Report: LSD may be beneficial to imagining yourself to be a long-distance runner
 
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