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2011-11-27 04:35:16 PM
Maybe because Congress won't let ANY president keep promises..
 
2011-11-27 04:39:28 PM
Majick Thise: Maybe because Congress won't let ANY president keep promises..

Perhaps because we have become so polarized along ideological lines that the concept of compromise no longer seems valid?

Your opponents are no longer just wrong, they are evil. Balkanization would not surprise me at this point honestly.
 
2011-11-27 04:41:33 PM
Hi there!
 
2011-11-27 04:47:28 PM
Liberals are damn well aware he hasn't kept his promises and they voice those concerns often headinthesandmitter.
 
2011-11-27 04:51:43 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/prom ise-kept/

Please note: That's just page 1 of 8.

"Obama has not kept his campaign promises" is spin. He may not have gotten them all, but he's got a lot done.
 
2011-11-27 04:54:29 PM
bloobeary: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/pro m ise-kept/

Please note: That's just page 1 of 8.

"Obama has not kept his campaign promises" is spin. He may not have gotten them all, but he's got a lot done.


Came to put this here. Glad it's already here.

Save your bullshiat, submitter.
 
2011-11-27 05:01:13 PM
I guess the submitters here have already proven the article (page 1) correct.
 
2011-11-27 05:05:48 PM
chiett: I guess the submitters here have already proven the article (page 1) correct.

How many submitters do you think there are?
 
2011-11-27 05:22:48 PM
The submitters to this thread.
 
2011-11-27 05:25:14 PM
I'd rather have Obama in office breaking some of his campaign promises than McCain in office following through on his.
 
2011-11-27 05:25:25 PM
this author sounds concerned
 
2011-11-27 05:27:40 PM
chiett: The submitters to this thread.

You mean commenters?
 
2011-11-27 05:32:22 PM
Maybe because WE DON'T AND WE ACTUALLY CONSTANTLY HAMMER HIM FOR THAT.
 
2011-11-27 05:46:57 PM
29.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-11-27 05:50:22 PM
After voting for Obama and looking at what he's done to America, I feel as though I've been raped. I want my country back!

Michele Bachmann can get our country back!
 
2011-11-27 05:52:58 PM
FARTNOISE FARTNOISE JUNIOR: I'd rather have Obama in office breaking some of his campaign promises than McCain any republican in office following through on his.

/edited for clarity
 
2011-11-27 05:54:47 PM
bloobeary: "Obama has not kept his campaign promises" is spin. He may not have gotten them all, but he's got a lot done.

like killing the economy without having to close down Gitmo
 
2011-11-27 05:56:58 PM
EnviroDude: like killing the economy without having to close down Gitmo

Welcome back from your long nap. The economy tanked before Obama took office. To catch up, you may want to get your news from somewhere other than FOX.
 
2011-11-27 06:01:23 PM
EnviroDude: like killing the economy without having to close down Gitmo

That one really pissed me off. The Republican, and some Democrats, line was "Our prisons are unsafe and murderers run free every day raping our children and taking our jobs." I just didn't get that one. I know, if they were found not guilty, they would roam free on our streets. Yes, that is so likely. Because the government agents don't have wives, husbands, and children of their own.

We'd hold them in some place or herd them off to a third party country or back to their country of origin pay the country to take them or whatever. They wouldn't be working at the local Stop and Shop raping your kids in their spare time.

The goddamn effectiveness of the GOP whine brigade is just downright infuriating. It made no sense whatsoever, but the GOP held together on it and swayed Democrats that they would be coddling terrorists if they allowed trials for these people.

Petulant children.
 
2011-11-27 06:04:38 PM
You know, I don't care what you think of any president, but when you refer to them, at least refer to them AS president!

Not "Obama" or "Bush". Not "Mr. Obama" or "Mr. Bush".

It's President Obama. It's President Bush (well, not anymore).

Sheesh, have some respect for the office.

Of course, this just applies to "journalists" and the articles they "write". The rest of you can continue calling him Fartbongo all you want.
 
2011-11-27 06:23:24 PM
NewportBarGuy: Petulant children.

You shouldn't get upset. It is obvious to all that don't defend all things Obama that closing down GITMO was an impossibility (and not because the democrat majority in the house and the filibuster proof majority in the Senate had to do anything about it). Closing GITMO (within a year no less) was an unkeepable promise. But if the democrats swallowed it and voted for him because of it, then power to him for knowing how to lie/swindle his base.

Those of us that saw through the ruse tried to warn you. And we were promptly accused of being racists because of it.

In the meantime, the economy is eeking along, we are prepping for a second recession, unemployment (real unemployment) is the highest it has been in my lifetime, and we have a return of the misery index.

Gotta love the 1970's cause his policies are causing a carbon copy of the Carter years. The only thing missing is the hick beer swilling brother trying to sell us beer.
 
2011-11-27 06:26:32 PM
EnviroDude: Gotta love the 1970's cause his policies are causing a carbon copy of the Carter years. The only thing missing is the hick beer swilling brother trying to sell us beer.

www.thehomeplanet.org
Know how I can tell you weren't alive in the 70s?
 
2011-11-27 06:30:04 PM
EnviroDude: the filibuster proof majority in the Senate

Nope.
 
2011-11-27 06:34:42 PM
EnviroDude: filibuster proof majority in the Senate

58 Senators can break a filibuster now? Please, cite me the rule.
 
2011-11-27 06:35:32 PM
If any president were able to keep all of their promises, he wouldn't be a president. He'd be a dictator.
 
2011-11-27 06:36:18 PM
EnviroDude: Closing GITMO (within a year no less) was an unkeepable promise.

I just explained to you why it was impossible. It had no bearing on fact, and everything to do with Republican fiction of terrorists roaming the streets raping er'body up in here.
 
2011-11-27 06:42:06 PM
I wouldn't consider myself a liberal - but I did vote for the guy, because I couldn't feature voting for the Old-Man-Shouting-At-Clouds/WTF ticket.

I get that he's not done what he said. I also got at the time that there was no plan as to how he would get it done, other than "Rahm'll get shiat done". I'm not happy with his performance on the war, even though bin Laden got it on his watch. I'm not happy with how he deals with opposition, which is to generally cave. I wish he'd used his opening advantage to make good on all that populist rhetoric and start channeling Teddy Roosevelt.

He has, however, gotten DADT repealed. He did make the tough call on going after bin Laden, knowing that if it got farked up it would be his Carter moment. So there's that.

But when I see stories like this, my two questions are: And this makes him different from any other politician... how? and Well, what would you have had him do that would have turned out so much better?
 
2011-11-27 06:45:28 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: But when I see stories like this, my two questions are: And this makes him different from any other politician... how? and Well, what would you have had him do that would have turned out so much better?

Admit he is a Kenyan-born puppet of George Soros and install Sarah Palin in office by Executive Order.

DUH
 
2011-11-27 06:56:16 PM
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2011-11-27 06:59:10 PM
And, yet, we'll all be voting for him again in 2012, because the Republicans got nothing. Absolutely nothing, nil, squat, zero.
 
2011-11-27 07:03:07 PM
Because liberals suck?
 
2011-11-27 07:05:11 PM
MorrisBird: And, yet, we'll all be voting for him again in 2012, because the Republicans got nothing. Absolutely nothing, nil, squat, zero we toe the party line.

Admit it. The only way you'd vote for a Republican is if he sounded like a Democrat.
 
2011-11-27 07:05:39 PM
MorrisBird: And, yet, we'll all be voting for him again in 2012, because the Republicans got nothing. Absolutely nothing, nil, squat, zero.

Unfortunately, THIS. I gave up cable this year, but was having withdrawal symptoms as election season approaches... then I realized that it's really going to be a boring race. I mean, watching the general craziness of the GOP race would be funny, if it weren't so damn sad... but the general is no contest. They might as well run McCain/Palin again. They got nuthin'.

When your best strategy in a political race is, in all honesty, to point at your opponent with your thumb and say, "Get a load o' this guy", you're not facing much of a challenge.
 
2011-11-27 07:09:10 PM
I haven't been 100% satisfied (who is?) with any President in office in recent memory, but I've been very impressed with both the work and work ethic of this particular President. I used to be happy the President was clearing brush at his faux ranch so often, and thankful he didn't stay up past 8 p.m. accomplishing more. Now I'm grateful this one is up early, gets to bed late, and still manages to have dinner with his children most every night. The man is a role model for American men. Especially in handling a hostile do-nothing Congress with Republicans who won't vote for proposals THEY ORIGINALLY CAME UP WITH in the early 1990s.
 
2011-11-27 07:10:28 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: When your best strategy in a political race is, in all honesty, to point at your opponent with your thumb and say, "Get a load o' this guy", you're not facing much of a challenge.

Kinda makes you wonder if the Republicans are taking a dive. I mean, I don't see why they would, but it makes you wonder.
 
2011-11-27 07:11:05 PM
BroVinny: The only way you'd vote for a Republican

Name a 2012 Republican candidate worth voting for and 3 reasons why. Difficulty: No Copypasta.
 
2011-11-27 07:13:22 PM
Somacandra: Name a 2012 Republican candidate worth voting for and 3 reasons why. Difficulty: No Copypasta.

I can't. Doesn't disprove my point. Make my point for me: describe in detail the Republican you'd vote for against Obama.
 
2011-11-27 07:13:55 PM
BroVinny: MorrisBird: And, yet, we'll all be voting for him again in 2012, because the Republicans got nothing. Absolutely nothing, nil, squat, zero we toe the party line.

Admit it. The only way you'd vote for a Republican is if he sounded like a Democrat.


I'm going to go ahead and deny that. I have no use for the Democratic party. I'm a progressive. When they're available, I vote for them.
 
2011-11-27 07:16:15 PM
BroVinny: Somacandra: Name a 2012 Republican candidate worth voting for and 3 reasons why. Difficulty: No Copypasta.

I can't. Doesn't disprove my point. Make my point for me: describe in detail the Republican you'd vote for against Obama.


One that, when they read the Republican platform, immediately vomits and turns Independent.

/Speaking solely for myself.
 
2011-11-27 07:18:18 PM
Sabyen91: One that, when they read the Republican platform, immediately vomits and turns Independent.

Proves my point.
 
2011-11-27 07:20:03 PM
BroVinny: Sabyen91: One that, when they read the Republican platform, immediately vomits and turns Independent.

Proves my point.


Actually it doesn't. You broad brushed everybody. I am one person. I am guessing other peoples' answers will be different. But as long as you feel superior to one person it is all good.
 
2011-11-27 07:21:11 PM
BroVinny: I can't. Doesn't disprove my point. Make my point for me: describe in detail the Republican you'd vote for against Obama.

William Weld, William Cohen, or any other New England Republican who is more like a sane human being than these goddamn bastards they have now. Remember when the Republicans actually embraced intelligence and solid reasoning? It's becoming a distant memory.
 
2011-11-27 07:25:26 PM
Why do people always believe politicians will keep campaign promises?


bradlaidman.com
 
2011-11-27 07:26:28 PM
BroVinny: Admit it. The only way you'd vote for a Republican is if he sounded like a Democrat.

Are you challenged? You must be.
 
2011-11-27 07:26:49 PM
chiett: I guess the submitters here have already proven the article (page 1) correct.

While the headline proves itself wrong.
srsly every host on msnbc has been complaining about this for months if not years.
 
2011-11-27 07:47:39 PM
BroVinny: MorrisBird: And, yet, we'll all be voting for him again in 2012, because the Republicans got nothing. Absolutely nothing, nil, squat, zero we toe the party line.

Admit it. The only way you'd vote for a Republican is if he sounded like a Democrat.


That's Obama!
 
2011-11-27 08:08:01 PM
sinschild: Majick Thise: Maybe because Congress won't let ANY president keep promises..

Perhaps because we have become so polarized along ideological lines that the concept of compromise no longer seems valid?

Your opponents are no longer just wrong, they are evil. Balkanization would not surprise me at this point honestly.


I'm not the biggest Obama fan in the world, but it's plain to see that we're in a completely broken system, and it's not Obama's fault. If we elect a Republican the Congress will just change sides of who's got what role.

It's politically nihilistic, but it's hard to argue.
 
2011-11-27 08:12:22 PM
Has he kept every promise?
No.
Is the country better off today than it was in January 2009?
Hell yes.
Could I say that if we'd had President McCain instead?
fark no.
Has he done enough to earn my vote again?
Unless the republicans wise up and nominate Huntsman, the answer is hell no.
If they nominate Huntsman, the answer is a qualified no.*


*Even a sane republican (and sane democrat) is going to have policies I don't agree with. The question is whether or not I'm willing to accept the ones I don't agree with to get the ones I do.
 
2011-11-27 08:21:48 PM
BroVinny: Sabyen91: One that, when they read the Republican platform, immediately vomits and turns Independent.

Proves my point.


Teddy and Ford.

I like a less intrusive government. However, republicans now are all about legialating sexuality, womens reproduction, and shoving christianity into every orifice they can find. I would support someone as right as Nixon on a lot of issues. The problem is that even he would be a Democrat now. The center-right party is the Democratic Party.
 
2011-11-27 08:24:09 PM
Maybe because (enter generic excuse here).
 
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