That is just ridiculous to me. What majors 'pay' is an average of the end result of what thousands of people do with that major. It is a factor, but not the only factor. If someone wants to major in Russian, they should be able to, part of college is learning for learning sake, what happened to that?

Some people are history buffs, anyone I've seen who loves history, loves it, even if they can't get a job for a year or two in their field and even if when they do get a job they aren't paid that much, that's what they want to do. So that is ridiculous to me.

The only advantage I see in this is removing a couple majors so easy that some people choose them just to get a college degree, but they are few and far between. I mean of course a math major will pay more than a drama major, but people want to do different things in their lives.

This is great news, it will water down all of the rest of their graduate pools with terrible people who do not want to do what they are trained to do. That will make it quite a bit harder to H1B visa hire these majors, while simultaneously planting seeds of destruction throughout their economy. People who suck at their jobs can be far more dangerous than anything else!

Don't worry - any Chinese student who wants a degree in puppetry can still come to the US and get a degree and a $35,000 loan they'll never be able to pay back.

they're trying to stop the spread of hipster from the USA

FTA: None of the reports specified which majors would be cut under the new rules, but there are signs that some universities have already started taking steps to decrease the size of programs that don't result in paid positions. Enrollment in a Russian program at China's Shenyang Normal University was cut to 25 students this year from 50 in previous years, according to a report in the China Daily.

Forgive me while I play the world's tiniest violin for all the STEM workers in the United States who are about to be outsourced the fark out of their jobs.

They can look forward to a long career partially filling Coke bottles.

shinysign: If someone wants to major in Russian, they should be able to, part of college is learning for learning sake, what happened to that?

Some people are history buffs, anyone I've seen who loves history, loves it, even if they can't get a job for a year or two in their field and even if when they do get a job they aren't paid that much, that's what they want to do. So that is ridiculous to me.

Why the hell do need to "major" in it? Take classes on it. Tada. You now know Russian. I want to know how to weld. Should I switch my major to "Welding"?

Aar1012: Something tells me that submitter is an engineer and probably as interesting as dirt

But well-paid dirt.

subby, fark off, you silly farg.

Well my liberal arts education taught me that this:

The government will soon start evaluating college majors by their employment rates, downsizing or cutting those studies in which less than 60% of graduates fail for two consecutive years to find work.

doesn't mean what the author thinks it means. So China will start cancelling majors where fewer than 60% of graduates fail to find work? That would be the exact opposite of the article's thesis.

shinysign: That is just ridiculous to me. What majors 'pay' is an average of the end result of what thousands of people do with that major. It is a factor, but not the only factor. If someone wants to major in Russian, they should be able to, part of college is learning for learning sake, what happened to that?

Some people are history buffs, anyone I've seen who loves history, loves it, even if they can't get a job for a year or two in their field and even if when they do get a job they aren't paid that much, that's what they want to do. So that is ridiculous to me.

The only advantage I see in this is removing a couple majors so easy that some people choose them just to get a college degree, but they are few and far between. I mean of course a math major will pay more than a drama major, but people want to do different things in their lives.


/No ties or affiliation, just came up in GIS for "Shut Up, Hippie".



Biology: Skillz that payz billz!

GAT_00: ginandbacon: I love the way Subby and everyone else (including me until I RTFA) is assuming this means liberal arts when it's actually biology and tech fields.

That's pretty much who the Great Leap Forward targeted: intellectuals.

I think, you're thinking of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, not the Great Leap Forward.

This is what happens when engineers run a country.

I wonder where economics falls on that spectrum?

"surge of collge grads, while an accomplishment for the country, has contributed to an overflow of workers whose skillsets don't match with the needs of the export-led, manufacturing-based economy"


Officially approved majors will be:

Assembly line worker 1

Assembly line worker 2

Assembly line Supervisor (this is executive level)

FTA Chinese have questioned whether someone like Apple founder Steve Jobs could ever emerge from an education system that seeks to push down students who stand out from the crowd.

Many Chinese students with enough funding have turned to universities in the U.S., which have a history of churning out graduates who've gone on to become some of the world's top innovators.

The problem with rote and technically oriented education is that it doesn't teach you to think, create or innovate with your innate skills. China is a nation attempting a two-billion person groupthink project, and it's doomed to failure.

What needs to shift is students and hiring managers perception of what a degree can do. Demanding a degree that is specialized to one task will only grant you and employee that can do that task. Considering how many business managers buy bullshiat pseudo-philosophy books who's only success has been selling books on success, why not hire an actual philosophy major? A hell of a lot of businesses could do better having someone trained in ethics and critical thought around to call them on their bullshiat.

Relatively Obscure: I would totally hit that woman on the right.

Domestic abuse is not the answer.

Students should be able to major in any subject offered.

They should refrain from pissing and moaning about having to pay for it however.

Anagrammer: Don't worry - any Chinese student who wants a degree in puppetry can still come to the US and get a degree and a $35,000 loan they'll never be able to pay back.

Really? Still???

FTA: Many university professors in China are unhappy with the Ministry of Education's move, as it will likely shrink the talent pool needed for various subjects, such as biology, that are critical to the country's aim of becoming a leader in science and technology but do not currently have a strong market demand, a report in the state-run China Daily report said.

Biology. Not puppetry. And for the record, the next time you dis Muppets, Oscar the Grouch is going to shank you!

College is nothing more than middle class proto-adult babysitting and job training. It ceased to be about education when corporations made it a necessity for having a chance at a middle class lifestyle.

But I'm only 2 credits away from my masters in advanced puppetry.

I don't think they should ever actually remove majors for that reason.

But I could see doing a regular survey of various industries, see what kind of skills are lacking and in great demand, and put scholarship money/generous federal loans towards people who are studying in those fields.

You can still major in anything you want, but if it's not likely to be a good return for the nation then don't expect the nation to pay for it. Take out some other student loan or work 3 jobs while in school.

/this would apply to any level of education; doctors, engineers, teachers, welders, forklift operators, etc. Any position that cannot be adequately filled by the current crop of workers and requires some amount of formal training.

FTA: "The government will soon start evaluating college majors by their employment rates, downsizing or cutting those studies in which less than 60% of graduates fail for two consecutive years to find work."
Looks like someone (WSJ) already downsized their English language studies.

Weaver95

And just why would China need to innovate? they've made it so cheap for everyone to build factories there that damn near everyone has moved at least ONE manufacturing plant to China. All the chinese have to do is steal design plans and/or schematics from their competitors and then be smart enough to adapt those stolen data files for local use.



http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Illustrated-History-China-Histories/d p /052166991X


Read this sometime. The people of China are as creative as anyone else; it's always been the controlling interests stifling dissent as the main problem.

Much like corporations refusing to pay taxes in the U.S. that would fund a lot of things in the future.