thomps: is watching regular porn on the plane still acceptable?

It's not illegal... it's frowned upon, like... masturbating on an airplane.

At least since 9/11 when people got so sensitive. Thanks a lot, Bin Laden.

When I browse CP at work, no one complains.

I wonder if he will end up getting off easily?

This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

There is the chance, however slim that they guy was watching some "barely legal" shiat and some sandy-cooched busybody looked over his shoulder and saw someone her granddaughter's age.

Don't get me wrong, if the guy's guilty, by all means hook his junk up to a car battery until it fries off. However, make damn sure he really is guilty first. in the US all it takes is an accusation, even baseless ones, that a man did somthing to a kid, and he's suddenly seen as worse than Hitler (not so much a Godwin as a Joan Rivers reference).

I mean, seriously, we live in a country where a guy taking a picture of his daughter in a mall gets kicked out and told not to come back, even after he's proven he's the girls father

That's a nice private location he chose to do that.

Rreal: This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

There is the chance, however slim that they guy was watching some "barely legal" shiat and some sandy-cooched busybody looked over his shoulder and saw someone her granddaughter's age.

Don't get me wrong, if the guy's guilty, by all means hook his junk up to a car battery until it fries off. However, make damn sure he really is guilty first. in the US all it takes is an accusation, even baseless ones, that a man did somthing to a kid, and he's suddenly seen as worse than Hitler (not so much a Godwin as a Joan Rivers reference).

I mean, seriously, we live in a country where a guy taking a picture of his daughter in a mall gets kicked out and told not to come back, even after he's proven he's the girls father

Seconded.

Rreal: This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

There is the chance, however slim that they guy was watching some "barely legal" shiat and some sandy-cooched busybody looked over his shoulder and saw someone her granddaughter's age.

Don't get me wrong, if the guy's guilty, by all means hook his junk up to a car battery until it fries off. However, make damn sure he really is guilty first. in the US all it takes is an accusation, even baseless ones, that a man did somthing to a kid, and he's suddenly seen as worse than Hitler (not so much a Godwin as a Joan Rivers reference).

I mean, seriously, we live in a country where a guy taking a picture of his daughter in a mall gets kicked out and told not to come back, even after he's proven he's the girls father

As long as we still live in a world where a woman's place is in the kitchen, taking care of the kids, maintaining a clean home, and doing whatever her husband wants of her, then I'm OK with this.

/no, wait a minute....

Rreal
This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

Thought about the same: somewhere in the article it's mentioned that they're still investigating if he really did it, but lets name the guy and use a headline that leaves no doubt anyway.

While human stupidity might be unlimited and we certainly had our share of articles about stupid criminals and idiots leaving screensavers with illegal stuff running, my gut reaction is that it's less likely that someone is stupid enough to watch child porn in a crowded place in public than it is that he royally pissed off some other passenger or that some passenger had their very own "I know it when I see it definition" of child porn.

The Voice of Doom: Rreal
This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

Thought about the same: somewhere in the article it's mentioned that they're still investigating if he really did it, but lets name the guy and use a headline that leaves no doubt anyway.

While human stupidity might be unlimited and we certainly had our share of articles about stupid criminals and idiots leaving screensavers with illegal stuff running, my gut reaction is that it's less likely that someone is stupid enough to watch child porn in a crowded place in public than it is that he royally pissed off some other passenger or that some passenger had their very own "I know it when I see it definition" of child porn.

In other news, it just got a lot easier to get back at that asshole who leaned his seat back on a thirty minute flight.

I was once on a flight from Paris to Toronto, in business class (upgrades are great) and the guy next to me started watching piss porn. He watched this for about an hour. With the sound on. What on earth do you say to that? I was pretty dumbfounded and just kept quite. I still have 4 hours where I had to sit next to him, and I didn't want to make it more uncomfortable than it already was.

rottenbox: I was once on a flight from Paris to Toronto, in business class (upgrades are great) and the guy next to me started watching piss porn. He watched this for about an hour. With the sound on. What on earth do you say to that? I was pretty dumbfounded and just kept quite. I still have 4 hours where I had to sit next to him, and I didn't want to make it more uncomfortable than it already was.

Was he going to stand up and start pissing on you? How does it get more uncomfortable?

And who watches porn for an hour?

Koodz: rottenbox: I was once on a flight from Paris to Toronto, in business class (upgrades are great) and the guy next to me started watching piss porn. He watched this for about an hour. With the sound on. What on earth do you say to that? I was pretty dumbfounded and just kept quite. I still have 4 hours where I had to sit next to him, and I didn't want to make it more uncomfortable than it already was.

Was he going to stand up and start pissing on you? How does it get more uncomfortable?

And who watches porn for an hour?

Someone who really knows how to enjoy himself?

Happy Hours: HBK: In other news, it just got a lot easier to act like a petulant child at the perfectly reasonable passenger who leaned his seat back on a thirty minute flight.

I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

I've been dealing with a lot of 40 year old adolescents on flights lately for some reason.

My pet peeve? They'll spend $500 for a ticket but won't spend $25 to check a bag. This results in an incredible amount of compaction in the overhead bins. The flight attendants will pack the bags up there, but won't get them back out, so the result is that it takes 30 minutes to unload the plane because people hold up the process as long as it takes to free their full-sized roller bag. The most recent flight from ATL to LAX, I checked two bags and got popped for sixty bucks, but it was the most considerate thing to do. I had a power supply in one of them that would have killed somebody if it had fell out on them.

I've got arthritis, so I don't usually involve myself with extricating a bag unless it's an old person or someone obviously more screwed up physically than I am. This infuriates the special snowflakes, who will biatch at me for not helping as if I'm an airline employee or their personal servant.

I also had someone get up mid-flight to get something out of a bag in the bin over my head and dropped a full size laptop on me a couple of years ago.

Greyhound In The Sky...

Utah? Isn't that the home state of the Church of Latter Day Morons?

Jeff_in_ATL: Happy Hours: HBK: In other news, it just got a lot easier to act like a petulant child at the perfectly reasonable passenger who leaned his seat back on a thirty minute flight.

I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

I've been dealing with a lot of 40 year old adolescents on flights lately for some reason.

My pet peeve? They'll spend $500 for a ticket but won't spend $25 to check a bag. This results in an incredible amount of compaction in the overhead bins. The flight attendants will pack the bags up there, but won't get them back out, so the result is that it takes 30 minutes to unload the plane because people hold up the process as long as it takes to free their full-sized roller bag. The most recent flight from ATL to LAX, I checked two bags and got popped for sixty bucks, but it was the most considerate thing to do. I had a power supply in one of them that would have killed somebody if it had fell out on them.

I've got arthritis, so I don't usually involve myself with extricating a bag unless it's an old person or someone obviously more screwed up physically than I am. This infuriates the special snowflakes, who will biatch at me for not helping as if I'm an airline employee or their personal servant.

I also had someone get up mid-flight to get something out of a bag in the bin over my head and dropped a full size laptop on me a couple of years ago.

Greyhound In The Sky...

We are all waiting for someone your size to beat one of these morons to death. If your "carry-on" needs wheels you should board and deboard last.

jso2897: Jeff_in_ATL: Happy Hours: HBK: In other news, it just got a lot easier to act like a petulant child at the perfectly reasonable passenger who leaned his seat back on a thirty minute flight.

I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

I've been dealing with a lot of 40 year old adolescents on flights lately for some reason.

My pet peeve? They'll spend $500 for a ticket but won't spend $25 to check a bag. This results in an incredible amount of compaction in the overhead bins. The flight attendants will pack the bags up there, but won't get them back out, so the result is that it takes 30 minutes to unload the plane because people hold up the process as long as it takes to free their full-sized roller bag. The most recent flight from ATL to LAX, I checked two bags and got popped for sixty bucks, but it was the most considerate thing to do. I had a power supply in one of them that would have killed somebody if it had fell out on them.

I've got arthritis, so I don't usually involve myself with extricating a bag unless it's an old person or someone obviously more screwed up physically than I am. This infuriates the special snowflakes, who will biatch at me for not helping as if I'm an airline employee or their personal servant.

I also had someone get up mid-flight to get something out of a bag in the bin over my head and dropped a full size laptop on me a couple of years ago.

Greyhound In The Sky...

You're joking, right? Travelling by Greyhound Bus is about a thousand times more pleasant than flying. Trouble is, it's slow, and doesn't cross water, and isn't really cheap, anymore.

You know, Amtrak was actually a very nice experience for me when I took it as well. I slept for 5 hours, wasn't awaken by a soul until the train was just outside of Chicago. Overall a very enjoyable experience. MUCH better than flying (and I work at an airport).

jso2897: Jeff_in_ATL:

Greyhound In The Sky...

You're joking, right? Travelling by Greyhound Bus is about a thousand times more pleasant than flying. Trouble is, it's slow, and doesn't cross water, and isn't really cheap, anymore.

I wish I were joking. I liked the concept of Greyhound, because you can actually see the country go by out the window.

I once rode Greyhound from Calhoun, GA to Lompoc, CA. First of all, there was no alcohol allowed and the toothless drivers all launched into Friends of Bill speeches about how evil alcohol was and how cheerfully they'd eject you over it.

There was a bathroom on the bus, but my fellow passengers were not properly toilet trained.

To steal a bit from Vonnegut, I think both Greyhound and the airlines worked when our society was poor enough and scared enough to have some common sense. We're all poor now, but we seem to be at a stage where we're resentful and treating it as a temporary embarrassment instead of the new normal. The common sense part might kick in when we realize we ought to be scared.

Jeff_in_ATL: Happy Hours: HBK: In other news, it just got a lot easier to act like a petulant child at the perfectly reasonable passenger who leaned his seat back on a thirty minute flight.

I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

I've been dealing with a lot of 40 year old adolescents on flights lately for some reason.

My pet peeve? They'll spend $500 for a ticket but won't spend $25 to check a bag. This results in an incredible amount of compaction in the overhead bins. The flight attendants will pack the bags up there, but won't get them back out, so the result is that it takes 30 minutes to unload the plane because people hold up the process as long as it takes to free their full-sized roller bag. The most recent flight from ATL to LAX, I checked two bags and got popped for sixty bucks, but it was the most considerate thing to do. I had a power supply in one of them that would have killed somebody if it had fell out on them.

I've got arthritis, so I don't usually involve myself with extricating a bag unless it's an old person or someone obviously more screwed up physically than I am. This infuriates the special snowflakes, who will biatch at me for not helping as if I'm an airline employee or their personal servant.

I also had someone get up mid-flight to get something out of a bag in the bin over my head and dropped a full size laptop on me a couple of years ago.

Greyhound In The Sky...

So, your huge, feebled ass (won't help lady's with their bags) right to lean the seat back is okay... but the right the passengers have to carry-on bags is not okay?

Why people don't check their bags:
- the fees, why pay $25/bag when you can carry-on?
- airlines are notorious for losing bags. American lost one of mine for six weeks. I even told them where it was lost (LAX).
- if you travel with jewelry or electronics, they will be stolen eventually
- It takes 30+ minutes for checked bags to arrive at the carousel (less for smaller airports).

BarbadoSlim: Rreal: This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

There is the chance, however slim that they guy was watching some "barely legal" shiat and some sandy-cooched busybody looked over his shoulder and saw someone her granddaughter's age.

Don't get me wrong, if the guy's guilty, by all means hook his junk up to a car battery until it fries off. However, make damn sure he really is guilty first. in the US all it takes is an accusation, even baseless ones, that a man did somthing to a kid, and he's suddenly seen as worse than Hitler (not so much a Godwin as a Joan Rivers reference).

I mean, seriously, we live in a country where a guy taking a picture of his daughter in a mall gets kicked out and told not to come back, even after he's proven he's the girls father

Seconded.

While I'm normally into guys like Franços Ssagat I do occasionally like some barely legal twink butt-slut porn. Let's remember the innocent untl proven guilty, shall we?

Jeff_in_ATL: I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

As someone who's over six feet tall and 250 lbs, I'd go nuts on you if you violently slammed your seat down on my knees. I'm already uncomfortable just being there, and having someone's seatback resting on my bent knees just adds to the pain. Maybe you should look behind you and ask politely if they mind, instead of suddenly exercising what you assume to be "your right".

Bucky Katt: I can't think of any way to snark this. What a genuine idiot.

Agreed.

I mean, okay. Stories like this come up all the time.

At what point, exactly, does watching PMITA-prison grade materials on a flight sound like a good idea?

ubermensch: Jeff_in_ATL: I had somebody go nuts behind me last March on a nine hour flight from ATL to Paris for leaning my seat back. I'm over six feet tall and weigh 275 pounds, I'm already uncomfortable just being there. The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message.

As someone who's over six feet tall and 250 lbs, I'd go nuts on you if you violently slammed your seat down on my knees. I'm already uncomfortable just being there, and having someone's seatback resting on my bent knees just adds to the pain. Maybe you should look behind you and ask politely if they mind, instead of suddenly exercising what you assume to be "your right".

An airline seat doesn't recline that much. We're quibbling over maybe five degrees of travel. You'd have to purposely hold your knees up in harm's way in order to have the argument.

Also, I don't see where I said that I ever "violently slammed" a seat back.

Two Penn State administrators walk onto a plane...

Jeff_in_ATL: An airline seat doesn't recline that much. We're quibbling over maybe five degrees of travel. You'd have to purposely hold your knees up in harm's way in order to have the argument.

Also, I don't see where I said that I ever "violently slammed" a seat back.

If my knees are bent at a 90 degree angle, lets say I'm using my laptop on my lap, the seatback hits my knees. Maybe my legs are longer than yours. All I know is that I've been woken up many times because of knee pain when someone reclines.

"The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message" implies that you're doing it quickly, and to someone who doesn't expect a seatback in their space, it seems violent.

HBK:
So, your huge, feebled ass (won't help lady's with their bags) right to lean the seat back is okay... but the right the passengers have to carry-on bags is not okay?

Why people don't check their bags:
- the fees, why pay $25/bag when you can carry-on?
- airlines are notorious for losing bags. American lost one of mine for six weeks. I even told them where it was lost (LAX).
- if you travel with jewelry or electronics, they will be stolen eventually
- It takes 30+ minutes for checked bags to arrive at the carousel (less for smaller airports).

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what's called an ad hominem attack.

First of all, I made no mention of "rights". Like the rest of the flying public, I understand that I surrendered any notion of "rights" when I bought the ticket.

My huge, feeble ass paid the ticket price, including the use of the seat and its functions.

Your argument seems to be that it's okay to inconvenience every single person on the plane because you don't want to spend twenty five bucks, but that I may not even potentially inconvenience the passenger directly behind me by exercising the same right they have to recline their seat by five degrees.

Further, you seem to be taking the position that I should encourage the antisocial behavior of bringing full sized luggage onto a plane by being willing to assist other passengers with this antisocial activity, even though I've stated I've got a physical reason in addition to a moral reason not to do so.

Do you ever examine your positions, or do you just take them randomly?

Regarding checked bags. You have no right to carry a bag that you can't fit into the overhead bin in my mind.

Isn't there an airline extra fee for this?

ubermensch:
"The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message" implies that you're doing it quickly, and to someone who doesn't expect a seatback in their space, it seems violent.

If you're saying that you got irritated because you assumed a different intent than one I ever had, then I understand.

pvrhye: Regarding checked bags. You have no right to carry a bag that you can't fit into the overhead bin in my mind.

Nice... +1 internets

pvrhye: ... into the overhead bin in my mind.

What else you got in there?

pvrhye: Regarding checked bags. You have no right to carry a bag that you can't fit into the overhead bin in my mind.

Thank you for your succinct way of putting that. I would add only "that you *personally" can't fit", as your fellow passengers have no obligation to service you.

Jeff_in_ATL: pvrhye: Regarding checked bags. You have no right to carry a bag that you can't fit into the overhead bin in my mind.

Thank you for your succinct way of putting that. I would add only "that you *personally" can't fit", as your fellow passengers have no obligation to service you.

I think that was a joke, Jeff.

Rreal: This may sound like a massive troll, but I feel morally obligated to point out they didn't arrest him because he had CP, they arrested him to investigate if he had it

There is the chance, however slim that they guy was watching some "barely legal" shiat and some sandy-cooched busybody looked over his shoulder and saw someone her granddaughter's age.

Don't get me wrong, if the guy's guilty, by all means hook his junk up to a car battery until it fries off. However, make damn sure he really is guilty first. in the US all it takes is an accusation, even baseless ones, that a man did somthing to a kid, and he's suddenly seen as worse than Hitler (not so much a Godwin as a Joan Rivers reference).

I mean, seriously, we live in a country where a guy taking a picture of his daughter in a mall gets kicked out and told not to come back, even after he's proven he's the girls father


I seem to remember a guy who got arrested (in Puerto Rico IIRC) for having "underage porn" and the 18-20 year old actress actually flew out to testify that it was her and she was legal at the time of filming...anyone else remember this? I think I was posted on Fark.

Rufus Lee King:
I think that was a joke, Jeff.

I'm going to go ahead and admit I miss a lot of jokes on Fark. I think it's partly because I mostly just lurk threads and seldom post, and partly because I'll pass over the comments for days at a time without looking.

I had to look up the reference for the wooden toilet paper holder, for example.

Thanks for the clue. Back in the olden days of Usenet, we used to have the Clue Bat to beat information into the heads of the clueless, maybe that should be revived for when I do something stupid.

Jeff_in_ATL: Thanks for the clue. Back in the olden days of Usenet, we used to have the Clue Bat to beat information into the heads of the clueless, maybe that should be revived for when I do something stupid.

On the other hand, though, it might not have been a joke. This is FARK, you know. Lots of times I can't tell, either.

ubermensch: Jeff_in_ATL:
If my knees are bent at a 90 degree angle, lets say I'm using my laptop on my lap, the seatback hits my knees. Maybe my legs are longer than yours. All I know is that I've been woken up many times because of knee pain when someone reclines.

"The seat is coming back when the pilot says it can, probably before they finish the message" implies that you're doing it quickly, and to someone who doesn't expect a seatback in their space, it seems violent.

If you can't fit into a normal coach seat you should be in an exit row, business class, or first. Whatever your needs are. Reclining the seat is a normal operation. There shouldn't be special treatment for tall people just as there shouldn't be special treatment for big people. If you need two seats, buy two seats. Common sense should be used if one possesses it.

Jeff_in_ATL: Do you ever examine your positions, or do you just take them randomly?

At some point I kind of figured you'd realize why people are actually jumping down your throat, but I guess not...

It's not that anybody, were they seated behind you on a plane, would likely have a problem with you putting the seat back. It's that the way you phrased your comment you sound like a self-important dickhead.

"I'll do whatever I want because I'm unusually large, fark everybody else on the plane"

That's pretty much how your comment came off and that's why people are jumping down your throat. There's no shortage of asswipes on airplanes, so when you come in here and make a comment making you sound like a typical asswipe on an airplane, people who are tired of asswipes on airplanes are going to jump all over you. It's not that what you said is necessarily problematic, it's the way you said it, especially in relation to the subject of air travel.

I'm 5'9" and fit well into an airplane seat. You tall freaks sound like whiny biatches!

Splinshints: Jeff_in_ATL: Do you ever examine your positions, or do you just take them randomly?

At some point I kind of figured you'd realize why people are actually jumping down your throat, but I guess not...

It's not that anybody, were they seated behind you on a plane, would likely have a problem with you putting the seat back. It's that the way you phrased your comment you sound like a self-important dickhead.

"I'll do whatever I want because I'm unusually large, fark everybody else on the plane"

That's pretty much how your comment came off and that's why people are jumping down your throat. There's no shortage of asswipes on airplanes, so when you come in here and make a comment making you sound like a typical asswipe on an airplane, people who are tired of asswipes on airplanes are going to jump all over you. It's not that what you said is necessarily problematic, it's the way you said it, especially in relation to the subject of air travel.

Oh.

All right, then.

I'll make a determined effort in the future to use words and phrasings that would tend to help create a kinder, more gentle Fark for all of us.

I guess I made the assumption that Fark was largely peopled by attorneys and other professionals who work with some form of the written word every day of their lives and for whom words themselves were no real threat. Some of you have admitted as much about your occupations in other threads, so it wasn't an impossibility. You'll have to admit that for the most part, the back-and-forth here has been literate enough. Even for those who have not thought their positions completely through, I'd say they posted their logical mistakes and misses with decent enough grammar.

I also assumed that everybody who was posting about their experiences while flying had actually flown somewhere, which suggests at least a middle-class income, which in turn suggests a professional or quasi-professional person.

In short, I was writing for other professional adults. It was an easy assumption to make.

However, yes I do know what happens when we assume, and I apologize.