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2011-11-26 11:58:23 AM
I missed the part about why we need to "save" the US Postal Service.
 
2011-11-26 12:04:45 PM
Because socialism, that's why!
 
2011-11-26 12:41:51 PM
well said
 
2011-11-26 12:59:09 PM
I don't get the whole "vote on Saturday" thing. Aren't most polling places open til 7?
 
2011-11-26 01:43:02 PM
....and then he went outside and yelled at some clouds.
 
2011-11-26 01:43:23 PM
Bernie Sanders sounds like Larry David.
 
2011-11-26 01:45:41 PM
Must have been a sunny day.
 
2011-11-26 01:52:21 PM
violentsalvation: Bernie Sanders sounds like Larry David.

glad I'm not the only one who heard that.
 
2011-11-26 01:55:02 PM
namatad:
You dont get that Saturday would be easier for a majority of the people on the planet?



Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.
 
2011-11-26 02:07:10 PM
FloydA: namatad:
You dont get that Saturday would be easier for a majority of the people on the planet?


Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.


So, a plan with no drawbacks?
 
2011-11-26 02:08:31 PM
FloydA: Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.

So make it Friday and Saturday. Solved.
 
2011-11-26 02:09:01 PM
FloydA: namatad:
You dont get that Saturday would be easier for a majority of the people on the planet?


Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.


this is kinda why I am in favor of 100% voting by mail or saturday and sunday voting.

(yes I know that homeless people would still need a place to vote ... hmmmm city hall isnt used for anything useful currently.)
 
2011-11-26 02:10:54 PM
Enthusiast: You have a continuous 235 year history with the US Constitution, and now you're going to blame whoever for whatever (it's really unclear - mostly blaming the richest people not giving you enough goodies)?

REALITY CHECK: Whatever it is that you're experiencing now, for good or bad, is the result of the system you're trying to save.


Sounds like you need a reality check yourself. It's not about everyone getting free stuff, it's about the 1% being given way too much free stuff, starting with Reagan.
 
2011-11-26 02:11:31 PM
stiletto_the_wise: FloydA: Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.

So make it Friday and Saturday. Solved.


And then you fark over the Jews and Muslims and Seventh-Day Adventists, etc.
 
2011-11-26 02:14:39 PM
Uh, it's easier to vote than ever (at least in my lifetime).

When I first voted I did have to vote on a Tuesday - sure, I could have gotten an absentee ballot, but I would have had to jump through a lot of hoops.

Now, I know they run elections differently in different states, but now I get a ballot in the farking mail several weeks before election day and I can take my time and I can mail it in or if I don't trust the USPS I can drive down to the courthouse any day before the election and drop it off and if I wait until election day I can drop it off at ANY polling place I want to - no waiting in line, nothing. I bypass all those suckers trying to use voting booths. I just say "Here's my ballot" and that's that.

I don't disagree with him that the 1% are the noble class, but it is to varying degrees. I've been particularly noting this recently in movies (Holy shiat, can you imagine living in a house like that?), but I don't need to be in the 1%. I'd be ecstatic to be in the 25% or even 50%....I think I used to be in the 50% - well, all of us are in the 50% on one side or the other. Right now I'd just be happy to have a job.and be in the lower 25%

I don't think he pwned anything.
 
2011-11-26 02:17:45 PM
namatad: You dont get that Saturday would be easier for a majority of the people on the planet?

The majority of the people on the planet don't vote in U.S. elections.

I work a 10 hour shift. Between early voting and the 2 hours the polls are open after I get off work, I don't find it terribly hard to find time to vote.

Shifting the elections to a Saturday won't change the public apathy, it just increases the likelihood that I'll be drunk.
 
2011-11-26 02:20:44 PM
EatenTheSun: Shifting the elections to a Saturday won't change the public apathy, it just increases the likelihood that I'll be drunk.

wait wait wait wait
you vote sober??
you are clearly doing it WRONG
 
2011-11-26 02:30:36 PM
namatad:
this is kinda why I am in favor of 100% voting by mail or saturday and sunday voting.

(yes I know that homeless people would still need a place to vote ... hmmmm city hall isnt used for anything useful currently.)



Yeah, I'd be OK with 100% mail in, if we made some way for homeless/mobile/transient people to use a public building as a mailing address.
 
2011-11-26 02:40:58 PM
I can't believe people still vote at all.
 
2011-11-26 03:02:45 PM
violentsalvation: Bernie Sanders sounds like Larry David.

I think that he sounds more like The Aardvark from the Pink Panther Show
 
2011-11-26 03:03:49 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
2011-11-26 03:08:26 PM
Happy Hours: Uh, it's easier to vote than ever (at least in my lifetime).

Are you not aware of the states passing legislation requiring new forms of ID, etc? There are disenfranchisement attempts going on in many states.

Beware confusing your experience with the whole of reality.
 
2011-11-26 03:13:38 PM
You could make election day a holiday or move it to Sunday, but the people your trying to help (the poor) are still the ones in service jobs that get stuck that working weekends and holidays.
 
2011-11-26 03:14:34 PM
EatenTheSun: I don't get the whole "vote on Saturday" thing. Aren't most polling places open til 7?

8pm here.
 
2011-11-26 03:18:47 PM
Attend a town hall meeting with a socialist and recite liberal talking points while holding up a "not allowed to criticize him because... and he's a liberal" shield.

It is and always will be the socialists and people like them who will take things away from you, including various freedoms and control of your own life.
 
2011-11-26 03:20:00 PM
URAPNIS: I can't believe people still vote at all.

Unfortunately, so many people think like you do, so we keep getting crappy candidates who only appeal to their base; horrible candidates count on voter apathy to get them elected.
 
2011-11-26 03:44:51 PM
DarthBrooks: I missed the part about why we need to "save" the US Postal Service.

Hey, "Such Great Heights" is a good song
 
2011-11-26 03:57:01 PM
We should require voting and make it a fine if you don't.

Then we should outlaw all TV / broadcast media / push media / cell phone / mass mail ads for candidates and issues, and initiatives. Period, no exceptions.

If you can't be bothered to learn about a candidate then the hell with you, you're an unamerican asshat and you deserve a fine, like $100 per non-voting offense. Exceptions (obviously) for illness, military service (maybe) and other stuff. Otherwise, read some web sites besides fark once in a while, learn about a candidate and make a got damn vote. Non voters are the reason we have idiots that win elections now.

Vote by mail is already being done in Washington State and Oregon, without the doom and gloom the plasterbrains at the local paper predicted. It works. No rampant fraud outbreak yet either.
 
2011-11-26 04:19:23 PM
Staffist: I think that he sounds more like The Aardvark from the Pink Panther Show

which was an impersonation of jackie mason =p
 
2011-11-26 04:23:59 PM
DarthBrooks: I missed the part about why we need to "save" the US Postal Service.

Other than the fact that is is in the Constitution. But I guess that isn't all that important to blind ideologues like you.


Enthusiast: REALITY CHECK: Whatever it is that you're experiencing now, for good or bad, is the result of the system you're trying to save.

Not quite up on the whole change vs. save thing are you?
 
2011-11-26 04:49:39 PM
AmorousRedDragon: Enthusiast: You have a continuous 235 year history with the US Constitution, and now you're going to blame whoever for whatever (it's really unclear - mostly blaming the richest people not giving you enough goodies)?

REALITY CHECK: Whatever it is that you're experiencing now, for good or bad, is the result of the system you're trying to save.

Sounds like you need a reality check yourself. It's not about everyone getting free stuff, it's about the 1% being given way too much free stuff, starting with Reagan.


Did you know that in 1980Reagan was one of the first to question why a millionaire paid a lower effective tax rate than a bus driver?
 
2011-11-26 04:50:35 PM
FloydA: URAPNIS: I can't believe people still vote at all.

Unfortunately, so many people think like you do, so we keep getting crappy candidates who only appeal to their base; horrible candidates count on voter apathy to get them elected.


I vote every time but I'm not dumb enough to think it does anything at all to get us candidates worth voting for.
 
2011-11-26 04:58:50 PM
SharkTrager:
I vote every time but I'm not dumb enough to think it does anything at all to get us candidates worth voting for.


So run for office.
 
2011-11-26 05:19:38 PM
EatenTheSun: I don't get the whole "vote on Saturday" thing. Aren't most polling places open til 7?

Want to know how I know you're a country bumpkin?

Go check out a city on election Tuesday during a presidential year. It's not a exercise in efficiency.
 
2011-11-26 05:21:41 PM
stiletto_the_wise: FloydA: Perhaps so, but a weekend voting day would lead to establishment clause problems, since it would effectively prohibit some religious people from voting.

So make it Friday and Saturday. Solved.


Month long vote by mail with counting on Tuesday.

Simple, easy, secure and allows everyone to vote without hassle.

Which is why it'll never happen.
 
2011-11-26 05:25:23 PM
randomjsa: Attend a town hall meeting with a socialist and recite liberal talking points while holding up a "not allowed to criticize him because... and he's a liberal" shield.

It is and always will be the socialists and people like them who will take things away from you, including various freedoms and control of your own life.


You just have a 'bot that just generates offensive posts with "liberal" and "socialist" in them, just to snag passers by, don't you?

\I prefer to believe this, that you are a fantastic programmer
\\because the alternative is that you're a moron that thinks giving away our freedoms to wealthy people is the way our government should work
 
2011-11-26 05:44:12 PM
It doesn't matter what day, but to me, voting days in November should be national holidays (or state holidays in applicable states), when the US President and/or US Representatives are being voted upon.
 
2011-11-26 05:46:39 PM
LasersHurt: Are you not aware of the states passing legislation requiring new forms of ID, etc? There are disenfranchisement attempts going on in many states.

Agreed.

/oddly enough, living in Oregon, it is now harder to obtain a driver's license than to become a registered voter
//unless the rules have changed, and registered voters need an original copy of their birth certificate
 
2011-11-26 05:48:50 PM
Generation_D: We should require voting and make it a fine if you don't.

No.

Then we should outlaw all TV / broadcast media / push media / cell phone / mass mail ads for candidates and issues, and initiatives. Period, no exceptions.

YES!
While we are at it, ask the FCC to take control of the airwaves and remove "Fox Opinion" and the "liberal media" counterparts on other networks. The political discourse in this country is essentially being controlled, on one side, by a f*cking Aussie and his demon brat shiatass kids, and white people who call themselves "Real 'Mericans" are just eating the shiat up.
 
2011-11-26 05:51:48 PM
Generation_D: Vote by mail is already being done in Washington State and Oregon, without the doom and gloom the plasterbrains at the local paper predicted. It works. No rampant fraud outbreak yet either.

Again, YES.

Though in more fraud-prone states, I have a feeling that vote by mail may also be more prone to the errors of corrupt systems.
 
2011-11-26 05:55:12 PM
SharkTrager: FloydA: URAPNIS: I can't believe people still vote at all.

Unfortunately, so many people think like you do, so we keep getting crappy candidates who only appeal to their base; horrible candidates count on voter apathy to get them elected.

I vote every time but I'm not dumb enough to think it does anything at all to get us candidates worth voting for.


This.

Voting for the most part at the national level is a waste of time, 'cos all politicians suck. OTOH I go just before the polls close, no lines, and I'm only in the voting booth for literally 1 or 2 minutes, so it's no big deal. What 'they' need to do is phrase referendum questions more clearly, so I don't have to guess if I should vote Yes or No.
 
2011-11-26 06:15:27 PM
An old man whose down with OWS? Someone has a lucky family.
 
2011-11-26 06:17:22 PM
EatenTheSun: I don't get the whole "vote on Saturday" thing. Aren't most polling places open til 7?

pssst. some americans hold down more than one job.
 
2011-11-26 06:22:51 PM
Enthusiast: You have a continuous 235 year history with the US Constitution, and now you're going to blame whoever for whatever (it's really unclear - mostly blaming the richest people not giving you enough goodies)?

LOL... congratulations on the most obvious "I'm completely uninformed and don't care who knows it" posting I've ever seen on Fark.
 
2011-11-26 06:26:35 PM
FlashHarry: EatenTheSun: I don't get the whole "vote on Saturday" thing. Aren't most polling places open til 7?

pssst. some americans hold down more than one job.


Pssst! Some Americans have lunch hours, and those that don't can use an absentee ballot.
 
2011-11-26 06:33:23 PM
Is that guy one of those "soshlist hippie muzlims" I've been hearing about who are pestering the rich?
 
2011-11-26 06:59:29 PM
Dinki: DarthBrooks: I missed the part about why we need to "save" the US Postal Service.

Other than the fact that is is in the Constitution. But I guess that isn't all that important to blind ideologues like you.


The Postal Clause empowers Congress to establish a Postal Service. Doesn't mean they *must* continue a Postal Service any more than they *must* declare wars if they don't want to.

But go ahead and dream up some more fables about what you think the Constitution requires Congress to do, vs what it empowers Congress to do.
 
2011-11-26 07:26:53 PM
...old man yells at cloud.
 
2011-11-26 07:32:27 PM
henryhill: ....and then he went outside and yelled at some clouds.

3.bp.blogspot.com

You wanna yell at the moon with me?
 
2011-11-26 07:33:39 PM
Petit_Merdeux: Because socialism, that's why!

That's right. Congratulations USA, you managed to elect one actual socialist. That's one politician who will actually work for the people who voted for him instead of just the ones who funded him. Now go elect several hundred more.
 
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