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(Washington Post) Followup Before you go all "ZOMG HAX THE RUSSIANZ R COMING," check to make sure you don't have a plant employee logging in remotely while on a trip abroad   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 31
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2011-11-25 08:44:37 PM
I thought this story smelled like bullsh*t.
 
2011-11-25 08:45:05 PM
Oh, I am loving this. When this story first came out, it was just not hanging together well. The story was so full of "what-ifs" and "could-bes". Not credible, and I *hate* it when "journalists" play out a bogus scare-story like this.

Without ethical journalism, the public becomes not just ignorant, but dangerously motivated to tilt at whatever windmills those in power decide to set up as worthy of the public's ire/fear/adoration.

[cue up the Hearst/Kane rants]
 
2011-11-25 09:16:40 PM
Just heard a member of the media say "it was close" and by close they meant "foreign". I'm guessing the word/action 'cyberattack' is a synonym.

F*ck the media.
 
2011-11-25 10:07:50 PM
fta "No indictors of malicious activity were found"

You fool! "Leave no footprints" is the motto of a professional.
 
2011-11-25 10:13:31 PM
I've sometimes fixed stuff on client systems from aboard and wondered what would happen if someone noticed that someone is accessing the system from Brazil or such. I guess it could have been international new worthy event.
 
2011-11-25 10:19:36 PM
Nadie_AZ: I thought this story smelled like bullsh*t.

That's what They want you to think.
 
2011-11-25 10:26:48 PM
Just because it turned out to be BS, doesn't mean we should still prepare for attacks of this kind...look at what happened to Iran.
 
2011-11-25 10:30:05 PM
img508.imageshack.us

"Mr. President, we must NOT allow a water pump gap!"
 
2011-11-25 10:30:47 PM
img39.imageshack.us

Eeez what we want you to tink.
 
2011-11-25 10:33:55 PM
This reminds me of what happened to my wife's family, once.

My father-in-law spent his life in the steel industry, but since most of it left the US after the 80s, he spent the latter half of his career consulting overseas: Turkey, Indonesia, etc. My wife's brother is a nuclear engineer, who spends most of his time cleaning up radioactive sites, and he has a pretty high security clearance.

About 10 years ago, my father-in-law was consulting in China and decided to send my brother-in-law an email, wishing him a happy birthday. This was followed promptly by a visit from the FBI or CIA or something (I don't remember which), where they asked my brother-in-law lots of questions.
 
2011-11-25 10:47:04 PM
Google does this a lot since I use bitlbee to log into my Google Talk account via a irssi session on a shell account.

it goes "wtf is bitlbee coming from this is like Israel or something you need to change your password NOW"

annoying
 
2011-11-25 10:58:41 PM
The suspicion of foreign hacking was raised in a preliminary report by the Illinois Statewide Terrorism and Intelligence Center that was obtained by a control systems industry expert. The expert, Joe Weiss, alerted the news media to the suspected intrusion.


Always be wary of someone who can profit from increased business by alerting the news media.
 
2011-11-25 11:07:44 PM
sounds like someone is a little careless with their remote access policy.
 
2011-11-25 11:28:18 PM
That's what happens when you go russian to conclusions.

/Sorry.
 
2011-11-25 11:39:25 PM
I spent a week in Moscow earlier this year, and you'd better believe I told the credit card companies my travel plans in advance. This was just idiocy.
 
2011-11-25 11:47:22 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2011-11-26 12:16:23 AM
No one thought to check the VPN logs?
 
2011-11-26 12:28:56 AM
i486.photobucket.com
BIOS!
 
2011-11-26 12:28:57 AM
Employee in question?

www.officegardener.com

/hot, like the plant employee in HR
 
2011-11-26 12:33:09 AM
Nyet! Get Moose and Squirrel!
 
2011-11-26 12:49:51 AM
Back when I worked for the local university, I had a job that sent me all over several different campuses that were all loosely tied together. They had completely different security protocols and the one that controlled my laptop and internet access had EVERYTHING locked down so tight there was really no point in taking the laptop anywhere with us. One day we were on the campus with very little security and tried (again) to find a way to connect to the more secure campus network. It didn't work.

When we got back to our office, we heard all about how someone on the less secure campus was trying to "hack into" the other campus's domain. They were in complete panic mode and cut access to everything off site, including our office. It took me a minute, but when I realized it was us, I had to laugh. WTF is the point of making security so tight that laptops aren't able to connect remotely?
 
2011-11-26 12:54:14 AM
FlameDuck: I've sometimes fixed stuff on client systems from aboard and wondered what would happen if someone noticed that someone is accessing the system from Brazil or such. I guess it could have been international new worthy event.

What kind of boat were you on? A flat bottom boat on the amazon, perhaps?

/csb
 
2011-11-26 01:13:22 AM
papa_chulo: No one thought to check the VPN logs?

What, do something logical and sensible??

My first thought would have been to ask: Do we have anybody over in Russia who might be logging in?
 
2011-11-26 01:13:24 AM
limboslam: [i486.photobucket.com image 301x400]
BIOS!


All that hate's gonna burn you up kid.
 
2011-11-26 01:55:59 AM
Because stuxnet?

DNRTFA

/design nerc-cip control systems
 
2011-11-26 02:05:52 AM
Gyrfalcon: papa_chulo: No one thought to check the VPN logs?

What, do something logical and sensible??

My first thought would have been to ask: Do we have anybody over in Russia who might be logging in?


sounds like it was a subcontractor, so they might not of remember he had access or would have no direct knowledge he was abroad. For instance if he was the tech who installed the PLC or whatever he might still have login credentials on his laptop for remote diagnostics, and no one would realize immediately that he had access, or was over seas.
 
2011-11-26 02:42:27 AM
QT_3.14159: Back when I worked for the local university, I had a job that sent me all over several different campuses that were all loosely tied together. They had completely different security protocols and the one that controlled my laptop and internet access had EVERYTHING locked down so tight there was really no point in taking the laptop anywhere with us. One day we were on the campus with very little security and tried (again) to find a way to connect to the more secure campus network. It didn't work.

When we got back to our office, we heard all about how someone on the less secure campus was trying to "hack into" the other campus's domain. They were in complete panic mode and cut access to everything off site, including our office. It took me a minute, but when I realized it was us, I had to laugh. WTF is the point of making security so tight that laptops aren't able to connect remotely?


The security protocol was developed to consider every possible eventuality... except getting work done.
 
2011-11-26 04:47:09 AM
QT_3.14159: Back when I worked for the local university, I had a job that sent me all over several different campuses that were all loosely tied together. They had completely different security protocols and the one that controlled my laptop and internet access had EVERYTHING locked down so tight there was really no point in taking the laptop anywhere with us. One day we were on the campus with very little security and tried (again) to find a way to connect to the more secure campus network. It didn't work.

When we got back to our office, we heard all about how someone on the less secure campus was trying to "hack into" the other campus's domain. They were in complete panic mode and cut access to everything off site, including our office. It took me a minute, but when I realized it was us, I had to laugh. WTF is the point of making security so tight that laptops aren't able to connect remotely?


That's the way we roll at Madagascar U.
 
2011-11-26 05:23:35 AM
It's actually nice to know that they actually do keep up with these things. Not so much that they went all histrionic overdrive.
 
2011-11-26 11:39:46 AM
The obamorons can add another success to the campaigner and chief list of accomplishments. Obama saved an Illinois poop plant from foreign invasion.
 
2011-11-26 10:21:03 PM
Launch Code: The obamorons can add another success to the campaigner and chief list of accomplishments. Obama saved an Illinois poop plant from foreign invasion.

Abso-smurfing-lutely. He's double-tapping Russian hackers now! They just say he's golfing... when he has a tee-time, you know he's really going all black-ops on someone. AND he uses his time machine to remove any cause of fear so everyone can laugh afterwards about what wussies we all are for sweating the small stuff.

Seriously, he capped two underwear gnomes in my bedroom last night from an unmarked car. He used a fire down the street as cover so nobody would notice, he probably blew out the old lady's oxygen tank with a tracer before moving on to gnome busines . I had to flush them down the toilet this morning myself though, and I'm not sure I want to vote for someone who doesn't send along professional help to clean up afterwards. I had to bend over and EVERYTHING. Stupid hardwood floors. I thought change would bring me a self-cleaning laminate but no.
 
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