Nothing will happen to the cop.

But Grandpa's got a hospital bill.

/should never bring kids to these kinds of things, though. If you're crazy enough to go to start with.

Seriously, if I was in that shiatstorm and getting my kid out of harm's way during an unanticipated mob, I'm not putting my cure for cancer, I mean game, down. He may have needed both hands to get the child to safety and like hell he was going to lose the game he braved that dumbfarkery to procure.

Or maybe, he was stealing the game and resisting arrest, though I'm more inclined to believe the former.

But I have a cupcake with a cute plastic squirrel on it, so your arguments are invalid. The squirrel makes it tastier!

He's going to be a rich grandpa soon enough.

He'll get over it

cretinbob: Looks like they deleted all the comments to the article, since none of them were positive towards the officer and PD.
This is going to cost the city a hella lot of money, because they aren't going to get a shoplifting conviction, since the guy never left the store. Then he's going to turn around and sue the living fark out of the cops, the department, the city... any one he can and he should.
Hopefully he's not on a blood thinner and ends up with a slow bleed.

Why are cops policing a private store and acting as security guards?

Taxpayers pay for their training and then they're used as security guards / private detail? Why isn't the store being cited and shut down for creating a riot and dangerous situation?

If a protest or group were causing this sort of violent and dangerous disturbance, their leaders would be round up and charged.

Where the stormtroopers here?

Paka Ono: He's going to be a rich grandpa soon enough.

Not likely. Pigs can do whatever they want and nothing meaningful ever happens to them. It's part of living in a shiatty police state.

They farked his ass up good.

55 and a grandpa, hells yeah!

the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Paka Ono: He's going to be a rich grandpa soon enough.

This happened AZ.

He is lucky is isn't Mexican or black. He would probably be dead right now.

"A leg sweep was used on Newman, who hit his head when he fell and began bleeding, police said."



Approves.

Checks link...hmmmmm

yup, just like I thought, some cracka' ass cracka.

Has retail changed that much? When I worked retail, we were never allowed to accuse someone still inside the store of shoplifting. It didn't matter how far down his pants a person put an item. Until the customer crossed the threshold we were required to assume s/he would pay. The most we could do was walk up and say "Sir, would you like me to gift wrap that widget you currently have stuffed down your pants?"

Parthenogenetic: "A leg sweep was used on Newman, who hit his head when he fell and began bleeding, police said."

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Approves.

Came for this. Thanks.

Was this the video game in question?

Lunaville: Has retail changed that much? When I worked retail, we were never allowed to accuse someone still inside the store of shoplifting. It didn't matter how far down his pants a person put an item. Until the customer crossed the threshold we were required to assume s/he would pay. The most we could do was walk up and say "Sir, would you like me to gift wrap that widget you currently have stuffed down your pants?"

you're not a cop, so you have laws to follow.

Shoplift*Mart

FTFA: The Buckeye police chief said the officer's actions were justified and that the cell phone video of the fight showed only the very end of it. They said the Walmart's surveillance cameras did not capture the beginning of the fight.

Isn't that just AMAZING?!? What are the farking odds?!?

Who in their right farking mind takes their grandchild to Wat-Mart on Black Friday? They should charge him with child endangerment just for that.

Wal-Mart enables beatings and assaults the way Penn State enables sexual abuse. Each is equally culpable.

(Whew! I thought I'd NEVER figure out a way to link the two latest outrages.)

Walmart will pay for this to go away pretty quickly.

buttcat: FTFA: The Buckeye police chief said the officer's actions were justified and that the cell phone video of the fight showed only the very end of it. They said the Walmart's surveillance cameras did not capture the beginning of the fight.

Isn't that just AMAZING?!? What are the farking odds?!?

186k sq ft establishment and cameras don't cover the entire thing? Since I've seen it first hand I believe it.
/got really pissed when I couldn't see shiat either because if a lapse in overlap.

NO MERCY

I, for one, like an iron-fisted constabulary. It keeps the lower-class rabble in line.

Why do you think Mexico has armed cartel groups torturing and dismembering people with impunity? It's because of a weak- unprofessional- and easily-bribed law enforcement system.

When a real Professional LEO like in the video takes a criminal down and down hard, I feel a little bit warm inside. Glad that they are keeping me secure. I know that their actions create an environment across the country that makes this US of A a safe, productive, and happy place to live.

Remember it is best to be feared -and- respected.

Why is it that police always say "We have a completely different story" and "the officer was justified" no matter what the evidence and, witnesses say?

domo_kun_sai: Why is it that police always say "We have a completely different story" and "the officer was justified" no matter what the evidence and, witnesses say?

Because police/law enforcment are dishonest and no longer care who knows it.

Even when there is video evidence, cops will swear that the video is lying.

Scumfark pigs.

buttcat: FTFA: The Buckeye police chief said the officer's actions were justified and that the cell phone video of the fight showed only the very end of it. They said the Walmart's surveillance cameras did not capture the beginning of the fight.

Isn't that just AMAZING?!? What are the farking odds?!?

About the same as "yeah we killed Osama Bin Laden".

But his body is at the bottom of the ocean. Or maybe orbiting Neptune.

Isn't Walmart the place where the security cameras in the parking lot can read a license plate? I seem to recall an article here where that is exactly what happened.

And we are supposed to believe that their instore monitoring failed to reveal the leadup to this incident.

farking Cops.

The police officers were probably off duty and hired by the store.

cretinbob: they aren't going to get a shoplifting conviction, since the guy never left the store.

This internet myth needs to die. You do not have to leave the store to be guilty of shoplifting. Concealing an item on your person is enough to be charged with and found guilty in most jurisdictions.

Arizona Shoplifting Laws
13-1805. Shoplifting; detaining suspect; defense to wrongful detention; civil action by merchant; public services; classification

A. A person commits shoplifting if, while in an establishment in which merchandise is displayed for sale, the person knowingly obtains such goods of another with the intent to deprive that person of such goods by:

1. Removing any of the goods from the immediate display or from any other place within the establishment without paying the purchase price; or

2. Charging the purchase price of the goods to a fictitious person or any person without that person's authority; or

3. Paying less than the purchase price of the goods by some trick or artifice such as altering, removing, substituting or otherwise disfiguring any label, price tag or marking; or

4. Transferring the goods from one container to another; or

5. Concealment.

BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

He brought his grandkid to that shiat. He's the idiot.

BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Considering they can pull a plate id from their exterior cams, yes.

Being in one, there's cameras EVERY FARKING WHERE. And why is it if there was no monitoring in that area that it somehow magically only captured the end of the "fight" and not the entire thing?

I'd say it's safe to assume this shiat's all on tape and if the PD destroyed the evidence or made WalMart do so this grandpa is gonna make it rain on that kid next Christmas and a thousand Christmases more. Probablly have enough left to pay some homeless lepers to crowd the store every black friday too...

BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

jayphat: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

Don't you think if some violence broke out someone would make sure there's a camera trained on the area if not several?

They should have just shot him in the farking face for even looking the cop in the eye.

What? It's justified. They have no idea what that man could or couldn't have done.

Shoot the kid too, you never know, he could be an anti-capitalist anarchist and seeing his grandfather die like that? Could very well set off the violent trigger.

You have to be safe. These cops could get hurt ya know?

KingPsyz: jayphat: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

Don't you think if some violence broke out someone would make sure there's a camera trained on the area if not several?

They're fixed cameras. They don't move.

jayphat: KingPsyz: jayphat: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

Don't you think if some violence broke out someone would make sure there's a camera trained on the area if not several?

They're fixed cameras. They don't move.

then how is it possible they "missed" the start of the beating?

this smells of bs

KingPsyz: jayphat: KingPsyz: jayphat: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

Don't you think if some violence broke out someone would make sure there's a camera trained on the area if not several?

They're fixed cameras. They don't move.

then how is it possible they "missed" the start of the beating?

this smells of bs

Did you read TFA? The video was shot by someones cell, after the guy was on the floor.

BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Considering they can pull a plate id from their exterior cams, yes.

Being in one, there's cameras EVERY FARKING WHERE. And why is it if there was no monitoring in that area that it somehow magically only captured the end of the "fight" and not the entire thing?

I'd say it's safe to assume this shiat's all on tape and if the PD destroyed the evidence or made WalMart do so this grandpa is gonna make it rain on that kid next Christmas and a thousand Christmases more. Probablly have enough left to pay some homeless lepers to crowd the store every black friday too...

I'd say you need to tighten that tin-foil hat on your head. The Gubament might be reading your thoughts.

And I'm also willing that that Walmart is not going to do anything like that, considering it's corporate liabiity in a lawsuit and how paranoid the parent corporation is.

And the being able to read a plate in the parking lot is if they send the video out to be enhanced. And store personnel can't erase from the DVR. That's only controlled corporately.

BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Considering they can pull a plate id from their exterior cams, yes.

Being in one, there's cameras EVERY FARKING WHERE. And why is it if there was no monitoring in that area that it somehow magically only captured the end of the "fight" and not the entire thing?

I'd say it's safe to assume this shiat's all on tape and if the PD destroyed the evidence or made WalMart do so this grandpa is gonna make it rain on that kid next Christmas and a thousand Christmases more. Probablly have enough left to pay some homeless lepers to crowd the store every black friday too...

I'd say you need to tighten that tin-foil hat on your head. The Gubament might be reading your thoughts.

And I'm also willing that that Walmart is not going to do anything like that, considering it's corporate liabiity in a lawsuit and how paranoid the parent corporation is.

Ahh yes because I distrust an incident in a place known for their loss prevention efforts, with numerous eye witnesses, cell phone video from several sources, yet where the cops have a wildly different yarn to tell and magically the video evidence starts and stops with grandpa bleeding so I must obviously be paranoid.

Behind 7 proxies? could beeeeeeeeeeeeee...

KingPsyz: there's cameras EVERY FARKING WHERE.

No idea if it's true or not but I've head that most of the cameras you see in Wal-Mart and other stores are fake.

CheetahOlivetti: KingPsyz: jayphat: KingPsyz: jayphat: BronyMedic: KingPsyz: BlippityBleep: the article states that officers were questioning him about hidden items and he started freaking out. could be either way. lucky for the courts wal-mart has such fantastic surveillance equipment!

Funny how the police state that somehow the surveillance cameras didn't pick up the start of the "fight" beating...

Yeah, walmart cameras not recording and being monitored on black friday?

Know how I know you're full of shiat Buckeye PD?

The store full of witnesses telling a vastly different tale don't hurt either...

Because everyone knows that Walmart stores are just covered in cameras on EVERY support post, and every square inch is monitored in a high tech nerve center, right?

Lol it's nothing more than a farking desktop PC with one monitor connected to around 160 cameras.
/yes I know you were being sarcastic.

Don't you think if some violence broke out someone would make sure there's a camera trained on the area if not several?

They're fixed cameras. They don't move.

then how is it possible they "missed" the start of the beating?

this smells of bs

It looked like the takedown happened near the registers. There is no way the cameras missed it. If nothing else, you know Walmart is going to be recording the checkout area to make sure their own employees aren't pocketing anything.

The cameras at the register are right above the cashiers and look straight down. Ya know, where the money is. And that "area near the register" is the main aisle of the store that stretches from one end to the other and us normally empty. Nothing worth recording hence no camera.

Look, I worked for Wal-Mart for 9 years. I'll believe it when they say there's no camera.