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2011-11-25 03:57:51 PM  
in case there are those who haven't seen the investigative series done by Nashville's Fox 5 on the corruption and greed of the Middle Tennessee DICE force you should check these videos out. Hell the cops in different precincts are threatening to kill each other over who gets to keep the money and property they seize illegally.

Policing for Profit just watch all these videos to see these good old boys at work.
 
2011-11-25 04:02:51 PM  
It's almost as though running government services as profit centers is a bad idea.

This is exactly why people who say "I have experience in business" should be run out of all political races.
 
2011-11-25 04:09:36 PM  

7of7: It's almost as though running government services as profit centers is a bad idea.

This is exactly why people who say "I have experience in business" should be run out of all political races.


yeah the really telling part of that investigative piece was that the DICE patrols were stopping 10x as many people in the westbound lanes (the one with the money heading back to Mexico) as they were on the Eastbound side (The one with the drugs headed to the dealers) that's pretty good proof there that they aren't as concerned with stopping the drugs hitting the streets as they are with seizing the cash.
 
2011-11-25 04:11:43 PM  
Did the obvious tag eat too much turkey yesterday?
 
2011-11-25 04:17:01 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Did the obvious tag eat too much turkey yesterday?


Thus it is written. So long as law enforcement is a profit center, the law is a for-profit entity. Not that that is news.
 
2011-11-25 04:32:35 PM  

Hobodeluxe: in case there are those who haven't seen the investigative series done by Nashville's Fox 5 on the corruption and greed of the Middle Tennessee DICE force you should check these videos out. Hell the cops in different precincts are threatening to kill each other over who gets to keep the money and property they seize illegally.


There's also the ones who openly ask for bribes from truckers they know are carrying drugs.
 
2011-11-25 07:16:40 PM  
Considering seizure laws, this is news?

The War on Drugs is all about profit. Especially when you factor in looking at the prison industry...
 
2011-11-25 07:23:03 PM  

Hobodeluxe: in case there are those who haven't seen the investigative series done by Nashville's Fox 5 on the corruption and greed of the Middle Tennessee DICE force you should check these videos out. Hell the cops in different precincts are threatening to kill each other over who gets to keep the money and property they seize illegally.

Policing for Profit just watch all these videos to see these good old boys at work.


What he said.

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2011-11-25 07:25:53 PM  

hubiestubert: Considering seizure laws, this is news?

The War on Drugs is all about profit. Especially when you factor in looking at the prison industry...


Not to mention the seizure industry. Ever looked at the weekly take the federalis scoop in? It's frightening. And they get to keep all of it.
 
2011-11-25 07:27:11 PM  
Why do you think there are more cops on the side of the freeways that are leading toward Mexico than away? They are looking for the money going back.
 
2011-11-25 08:34:35 PM  

violentsalvation: Why do you think there are more cops on the side of the freeways that are leading toward Mexico than away? They are looking for the money going back.


I thought they were just facing south to work on their tans...
 
2011-11-25 08:55:26 PM  
I have been quite sadly disillusioned about law enforcement in my old age. My family has been at the receiving end of 1st) lackadaisical police response to a burglary, and 2nd) offensive police "storming" through my house looking for something (they never revealed what) -- until they realized they were in the wrong house.

Apology for scaring the bejeezus out of me and little grandkids? No, not word one.
 
2011-11-25 08:56:34 PM  
Not to sound like a tea bagger, but I think they need their pensions taken away.
 
2011-11-25 09:30:33 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Did the obvious tag eat too much turkey yesterday?


Sad tag still appropriate.
 
2011-11-25 09:52:42 PM  
I knew a cop that would go around confiscating all the illegal fireworks so he would not have to buy his own.
 
2011-11-25 09:56:19 PM  
Street cops don't solve crimes, detectives do.
 
2011-11-25 09:56:25 PM  
Did they at least to The Twist?
 
2011-11-25 09:57:56 PM  
This isn't news.

What's sad is that people keep reacting AS IF it is news. And that despite all the reports and reporting on it, and outrage and obvious excesses on the part of various police agencies, it is STILL GOING ON, because we all know how bad drugs are and nobody wants to appear soft on crime come election time.

And that's what you wanted, America, and that's what you're going to continue to get.
 
2011-11-25 09:59:47 PM  
4closurefraud.org
 
2011-11-25 10:01:43 PM  
Is this a Rick Romero thread?
 
2011-11-25 10:01:53 PM  
Is the obvious tag in a coma?
 
2011-11-25 10:03:35 PM  
fta "When our cops are focused on executing large-scale, constitutionally questionable raids at the slightest hint that a small-time pot dealer is at work, real police work preventing and investigating crimes like robberies and rapes falls by the wayside," Downing said.

The obvious solution is to pay law enforcement on commission. Make every cop a bounty hunter. $500 for a burglar, $1k for a strong arm robber, $5k for a bank robber, $10k for a murderer. That way everything would be above board and nobody could argue about priorities.
 
2011-11-25 10:04:58 PM  
This is why all fines, property, etc. should be sent to the state capital for redistribution based on need, not performance.

Yeah, it's crappy we have to solve it this way, but it's been proven the current system doesn't work.
 
2011-11-25 10:05:45 PM  

Gyrfalcon: This isn't news.

What's sad is that people keep reacting AS IF it is news. And that despite all the reports and reporting on it, and outrage and obvious excesses on the part of various police agencies, it is STILL GOING ON, because we all know how bad drugs are and nobody wants to appear soft on crime come election time.

And that's what you wanted, America, and that's what you're going to continue to get.


Because silly stubborn old people buy that "tough on crime" bullshiat, even though violent crime is DOWN.

And scared, senile old people vote for the pandering politicians who support the war on drugs.
 
2011-11-25 10:12:02 PM  
1: Pass a state law forbidding any law enforcement agency from keeping any seized cash or other assets. All lawfully seized and forfeited property is sold and the proceeds used to fund the state department of education.

2: Pass a state law forbidding police officers from wearing balaclavas under any circumstances. Explicitly permit any citizen to use deadly force against ANY person forcibly entering their property while wearing a face covering.

3: Pass a state law explicitly legalizing the videotaping of any activity in any public place, as well as any activity in any private place where a person has a legal right to be. Exclude sexual activity if you're panicky about spycam sex recordings. Make it a civil rights violation to seize any videotape recorded under legal circumstances, and revoke the law enforcement certificate of any officer convicted under same statute.

4: Require police officers to wear lapel/helmet cameras during ALL on-duty hours. Have a neutral 3rd party in charge of the secure storage of the data cards. Change the official rules of evidence so that "malfunctions" of official police recording devices can be specifically mentioned to any jury as an impeachment of police testimony.

5: Make perjury by a law enforcement officer a crime punishable by twice the maximum potential sentence of the original crime being investigated. Do the same for prosecutorial misconduct.

Make it HURT to violate civilians' rights.
 
2011-11-25 10:12:03 PM  
Joints in my pocket?
I'm wearing out me shoes for them.
 
2011-11-25 10:12:54 PM  
This is why agencies that pull in confiscated wealth should not be allowed to keep or reuse it.
 
2011-11-25 10:13:46 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Explicitly permit any citizen to use deadly force against ANY person forcibly entering their property while wearing a face covering.


Try not to have kids.
 
2011-11-25 10:14:25 PM  
Oh, hey, can you see, by the broken street light,
What so proudly we had, is now a pile steaming
Those heroic types behind bars, after the perilous fight,
On the videos we watched, where the cops were reaming?
And the taser's red glare, pepper spray in the air,
gave proof in the night of our liberty ensnared.
Oh why does that fraudulent flag still wave....
O'er the land of the imprisoned,
and the home of freedom's grave?
 
2011-11-25 10:15:40 PM  
And you wonder why some of us distrust or even hate aspects of the govern$ent and government unions? Cops are essentially commission based sales men in some counties and states.
 
2011-11-25 10:15:58 PM  
Sweet, sweet drug seizures, and the crime of carrying too much cash on an interstate, both leading to automobile seizures, leading to cash from outright taking or auctions.
 
2011-11-25 10:16:13 PM  
Thug-assed, felony committing, revenue farmer cops? In MY country?
 
2011-11-25 10:16:35 PM  

dahmers love zombie: 1: Pass a state law forbidding any law enforcement agency from keeping any seized cash or other assets. All lawfully seized and forfeited property is sold and the proceeds used to fund the state department of education.

2: Pass a state law forbidding police officers from wearing balaclavas under any circumstances. Explicitly permit any citizen to use deadly force against ANY person forcibly entering their property while wearing a face covering.

3: Pass a state law explicitly legalizing the videotaping of any activity in any public place, as well as any activity in any private place where a person has a legal right to be. Exclude sexual activity if you're panicky about spycam sex recordings. Make it a civil rights violation to seize any videotape recorded under legal circumstances, and revoke the law enforcement certificate of any officer convicted under same statute.

4: Require police officers to wear lapel/helmet cameras during ALL on-duty hours. Have a neutral 3rd party in charge of the secure storage of the data cards. Change the official rules of evidence so that "malfunctions" of official police recording devices can be specifically mentioned to any jury as an impeachment of police testimony.

5: Make perjury by a law enforcement officer a crime punishable by twice the maximum potential sentence of the original crime being investigated. Do the same for prosecutorial misconduct.

Make it HURT to violate civilians' rights.


I like it! Total transparency for all police and prosecution actions and accountability. That's a major fix that will never happen... :(
 
2011-11-25 10:17:14 PM  
I don't know but about two hours ago someone was going the wrong down the e-way.
/serious
 
2011-11-25 10:17:40 PM  
This is not new.
 
2011-11-25 10:18:09 PM  
Every part of America is rotting.
 
2011-11-25 10:18:17 PM  
Fark you guys. Let me be the first to say it; I'd hit it.

i.huffpost.com
 
2011-11-25 10:19:44 PM  
Dear cop, you're a dicksucking fascist and a criminal hiding behind a badge.
Die a painful death on the job. Thank you!
 
2011-11-25 10:20:52 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.


It's already out of control, it has been for some time.
 
2011-11-25 10:21:03 PM  
OINK OINK OINK wallow in your own filth and then complain you filthy PIGS!
 
2011-11-25 10:23:06 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: Every part of America is rotting.


It just smells like that at low tide. Most of the time it's pretty nice.
 
2011-11-25 10:27:13 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: Every part of America is rotting.


We get what we deserve.

A nation of citizens that would rather be distracted than informed.

Willful ignorance, and ignorance is most certainly bliss. Shameful destructive poisonous bliss.


Time to take it back. Let grandma and the tea party and the news biatch about us. They'll thank us later.

Our founding fathers were regarded as terrorists and traitors by the crown. I advocate as peaceful a revolution as possible (this was the gift our founding fathers gave us, a changeable system) but we should never forget that adversity and popularity should never stand in the way of justice and freedom.

Our legislatures and courts no longer deal in the business of justice.
Our government and social servants no longer deal in the business of freedom.

Something must change.
 
2011-11-25 10:27:15 PM  
Prohibition wins again.

Also, I'd let Shaver wax me any time she wanted.
 
2011-11-25 10:28:00 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Fark you guys. Let me be the first to say it; I'd hit it.

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Didn't you read the article? Somebody did hit it.

/ouch
 
2011-11-25 10:28:21 PM  
This is why I hate cops in Seattle. I see more douchebag motorcycle cops pulling over soccer moms in the safe, affluent neighborhoods, and drug raids focusing on MJ grow ops. Meth runs rampant in rural Washington, hard drugs are sold openly downtown, and no attempt is made by local and federal LEO's to address that problem. Everyone who supports these f*cks can go to hell.
 
2011-11-25 10:36:31 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-25 10:43:16 PM  
Time to get petty:

That gal is some kind of fine......
 
2011-11-25 10:43:53 PM  
Welcome to Japan... Oh wait...
 
2011-11-25 10:46:37 PM  
dahmers love zombie: 1: Pass a state law forbidding any law enforcement agency from keeping any seized cash or other assets. All lawfully seized and forfeited property is sold and the proceeds used to fund the state department of education.

Actually, if it goes into the state general fund and is distrubuted from there, I'm OK with this.

2: Pass a state law forbidding police officers from wearing balaclavas under any circumstances. Explicitly permit any citizen to use deadly force against ANY person forcibly entering their property while wearing a face covering.

That's utterly stupid. For one, entry teams wear balclavas to protect their faces from injury from fire and or flash. The balclavas issued to officers are the same type of nomex hoods that firefighters wear when using full PPE.

In addition to this, expecially when dealing with cartels and organized crime - which have no qualms about hurting an officer's family for revenge - anonymity is a must.

3: Pass a state law explicitly legalizing the videotaping of any activity in any public place, as well as any activity in any private place where a person has a legal right to be. Exclude sexual activity if you're panicky about spycam sex recordings. Make it a civil rights violation to seize any videotape recorded under legal circumstances, and revoke the law enforcement certificate of any officer convicted under same statute.

Uh, you know, in my High School Freshman Lit class, we read books like 1984. I know you might not have, but that's a pretty bad idea. And unconstitutional, given a person's reasonable expectation of privacy in, well, prviate.

4: Require police officers to wear lapel/helmet cameras during ALL on-duty hours. Have a neutral 3rd party in charge of the secure storage of the data cards. Change the official rules of evidence so that "malfunctions" of official police recording devices can be specifically mentioned to any jury as an impeachment of police testimony.


You make me a fail-proof camera, and sure. I can go with that.

5: Make perjury by a law enforcement officer a crime punishable by twice the maximum potential sentence of the original crime being investigated. Do the same for prosecutorial misconduct.

Make it HURT to violate civilians' rights.


Unconstitutional. See "Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause"
 
2011-11-25 10:47:29 PM  

Notabunny: Phil Moskowitz: Every part of America is rotting.

It just smells like that at low tide. Most of the time it's pretty nice.


Give him a break. He's probably from New Jersey.
 
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