Yes, be good little citizens and keep spending money you don't have...enslave yourself further to the system.

Buy. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.

hubiestubert: What I always find entertaining about this TEA Party, is that the original Tea Party was a blow against corporations. And the collusion between corporate interests and the Crown for mutual profit on their backs. Which, I'm sure, that someone in the backrooms must realize, but damned if they want to remind folks that the original Tea Party was a bit more than blocking off a university sidewalk or holding signs...

this TEA party is nothing but a tool of the corporations. Boot licking footsoldiers spouting the corporatist propaganda. Why else do you think that the Koch bros and their ilk are financing them?

This doesn't make any sense.

I was told by several Fark Independents^TM that the teabaggers were against the big banks before it was cool. Now they want to help prop them up?

The economy is in deep doodoo. But it's not because Connie and her snowflakes aren't oinking up for a new Wii.

It's because the people who sit at the helms of the multi-tentacled monstrosities that pump out Wiis, bad cheeseburgers, doodads and "designer" animal skins and every other made-in-East-Clusterf*ck-Asia -for-pennies-on-the-dollar piece of crap in those stores, use employees like chattel, scrape every penny into their coffers and then wait for the poor, struggling serfs who still have a 9.00 an hour indentured wage slave gig to piss away whatever isn't going for the rent, if they can afford rent, back into their pockets.

And they keep it.

And they laugh and laugh and then whine about how "we need a really good retail season, this year or we may have to close". No they wont. The scraped bones of the economy that you keep trying to put a little meat on so the rich can, once again, harvest it and take it home. Let me show it to you.

Nabb1: Neither the Tea Party nor #OWS is going to alter my usual Christmas shopping plans... which are to sit on my rear and order everything off of Amazon.com while sipping bourbon and watching football in the comfort of my own home.

I prefer gin and Downton Abbey, otherwise I am right there with you.

Knock yourself out my baggy new friends! Make sure you put it all on credit! Its the American Way!

[Let's watch as the selfish Boomers grab their political guns and proceed to blow their own brains out with them in the interest of 'patriotism' (as dictated to them by Murdock and Koch].

Boomers,

Your parents thought you were all bunch of worthless whiny self-important selfish deluded brats. Turns out there were right.

Love,

Your Kids & Grandkids

BillCo: So, the occupier hippies are trying to damage the economy and the Tea party is trying to do something to help out retailers. But the Tea Party is still the the bad guy, right?

No. They're the fat, hilarious moron sidekick of the bad guy.

But don't you guys realize that if we tax millionaires as much as we tax everyone else, nobody will want to be a millionaire anymore, and our economy will collapse?

The same group that wants to shut down the government unless we cancel Medicare and vows to refuse to hire for all the bootstrapppy small businesses they run until Obama is out of office is against people who want to boycott Black Friday because it might damage the economy?

Well, that's the logical consistency I've come to expect from the Tea Party.

so,the teabaggers like paying taxes

Some of you are confused about the tea bagging religion .... er, I mean mission. Here is teabagging 101 in a nutshell:

"As long as it's 180 degrees from what that Muslim (with the crazy Christian pastor) from Kenya who wants to destroy American wants, it qualifies as a teabagging talking point"

/now do you understand?

"Go out and buy some jewelry and a new car, otherwise the terrorists win!" - George Carlin

Why Yes I Am A Wizard: Your parents thought you were all bunch of worthless whiny self-important selfish deluded brats. Turns out there were right.

THIS ! Yes ! Remember, it's NOT a bunch of rich, grasping covetous cocksuckers of every stripe aiding and abetting in dismantling your country! It's those white / black / brown / male / female / gay / straight / arbitrarily generationally labelled and indexed for your ease of use folks up the street who haven't got a pot to piss in either! Endless semiotic idiocy for the win!

You have Kool Aid.

On your chin.

Did you know?

hubiestubert: What I always find entertaining about this TEA Party, is that the original Tea Party was a blow against corporations. And the collusion between corporate interests and the Crown for mutual profit on their backs. Which, I'm sure, that someone in the backrooms must realize, but damned if they want to remind folks that the original Tea Party was a bit more than blocking off a university sidewalk or holding signs...

Thank you for actually knowing the true history of such an important event. You don't know how many times some asshat, even in the commonwealth of Massachusetts, will repeat the lie it was "about tea taxes being too high".

Apparently they never got out of second grade, where that explanation was sufficient. Like "Columbus discovered the new world", or "coffee burners are hot, bad".

This sounds a tad like complete BS from all sides.

you've been told many times before, messiahs pointed to the door, but no one had the guts to leave the temple

TyrantII: Apparently they never got out of second grade, where that explanation was sufficient.

I'd like to see them deal with the cognitive dissonance over the fact that the original tea party was to the benefit of smugglers and pirates, but I know exactly how they would deal with that cognitive dissonance: they'd ignore inconvenient facts and go "LALALALA I CAN'T HERE(sic) YOU!"

Robert1966: But don't you guys realize that if we tax millionaires as much as we tax everyone else, nobody will want to be a millionaire anymore, and our economy will collapse?

Except the millionaires. And people still wanted to be millionaires. And the people who would have health care. And jobs. Other than that, yeah. Doomed.

You know how like, when you were a kid and you got to go to the all you can eat buffet? And you knew there was this thin line eating your fill plus dessert, and just packing it in until you felt the need to vomit because it tasted good? Guess who never thought it was ever about anything other than option B. If you eat the whole pizza, my family really does have to eat the box, Peej. When you stop returning profits into the economy, the economy goes away. And you sit in your dank, alarmed castle eating until you vomit. At least you do for a while. Occupy stagnant capital.

Robert1966: But don't you guys realize that if we tax millionaires as much as we tax everyone else, nobody will want to be a millionaire anymore, and our economy will collapse?

It's amazing how some retarded liberals stay with retarded talking points. In general millionaires paid way more in taxes. The exception was a handful of investors. But keep farking that chicken. Citation, the IRS.

t3knomanser: TyrantII: Apparently they never got out of second grade, where that explanation was sufficient.

I'd like to see them deal with the cognitive dissonance over the fact that the original tea party was to the benefit of smugglers and pirates, but I know exactly how they would deal with that cognitive dissonance: they'd ignore inconvenient facts and go "LALALALA I CAN'T HERE(sic) YOU!"

You used cognitive dissonance incorrectly, twice. It us the most over used term from idiots trying to sound smart.

The dishonesty is amazing, if unsurprising. The Occupy 'Main Street' message isn't 'dont buy anything ever' it's 'if you are going to buy stuff this Friday buy from locally owned small businesses' which would be a hell of a lot better for the economy than everyone shopping at BigBox stores where the profits all leave their local communities and go to a handful of very wealthy people.

Farking While Farking: The dishonesty is amazing, if unsurprising. The Occupy 'Main Street' message isn't 'dont buy anything ever' it's 'if you are going to buy stuff this Friday buy from locally owned small businesses' which would be a hell of a lot better for the economy than everyone shopping at BigBox stores where the profits all leave their local communities and go to a handful of very wealthy people.



You just shut up with your Obamunist, fartbongo, Kenyan soshlizm, you commie, pinko SOB!

Mom and pop stores are bad for capitalism!

No you go out there and you buy BUY A MOTHERF*CKING Wii for FREEDOM!

*snnnkkk*

I don't mind, in theory, shopping at "mom and pop" stores. I just wish they had stuff worth having, and without a hefty markup.

Anyone wanna go to Books-a-Million with me?

BroVinny: I don't mind, in theory, shopping at "mom and pop" stores. I just wish they had stuff worth having, and without a hefty markup.

So do they, but it's hard to compete with huge obsidian monoliths that buy 72,000 of something at once and demand it at 3% over mfg. cost or you don't get their business. If only there were some way to dismantle that purchasing method. If only.

bunner: So do they, but it's hard to compete with huge obsidian monoliths that buy 72,000 of something at once and demand it at 3% over mfg. cost or you don't get their business. If only there were some way to dismantle that purchasing method. If only.

You say that as though there is a way. Prithee continue.

The Tea Party wants people to shop on Black Friday?

Pfffft. Good luck with that!

"At a time when our economy is most fragile and ratings agencies are talking about another downgrade of the U.S. credit rating, it's completely irresponsible for Occupy Wall Street to attempt to bring the U.S. economy to a halt on the busiest shopping day of the year,"

But shutting down the the economy and the government for the last three years is OK?

sirgrim: Gee a movement funded by companies and rich people wants you to give them more money. Shocking.

I'll take that over OWS:

sirgrim: Gee a movement funded by companies unions and rich people liberal democrats wants you to give them more money. Shocking.

At least I get what I want from exercising my freedom of choice with the money I've earned at my job. And that money goes to help businesses grow so they can hire more people.

BTW: A job is that thing you earn by being qualified at a desired skill set and are then given compensation for utilization of that skill set.

That probably needs to be clarified for some of the people here.

BroVinny: bunner: So do they, but it's hard to compete with huge obsidian monoliths that buy 72,000 of something at once and demand it at 3% over mfg. cost or you don't get their business. If only there were some way to dismantle that purchasing method. If only.

You say that as though there is a way. Prithee continue.

Large problems require broad scope solutions. Most of them are as the balls on a tall dog, but take up a very precious commodity to effect. Time.

Huge corporations and governments move very very slowly. And there's a reason for this. They can maintain one event path for the public, which entails them being "that place / thing everybody knows about" and another event path that moves very quickly and hoovers up huge amounts of small things that, individually, don't add up to sh*t, but as an end result, make you a billionaire. Following this so far? Essentially, if you want to be rich, you don't find something that costs a million dollars and sell 4 of them. You find about 29385784 things that cost 1.99 each and sell a million of them each, a day. Preferably something that is destroyed in use and needs daily replacement. Cigarettes, for instance.

So... you have a room full of people measuring demand, you source supply dirt cheap because you offer huge volume purchases, everybody gets theirs NOW NO NOW, and the fine folks at FoxConn get some nifty Christmas lights for their suicide nets and an extra cup of rice.

So.. how do you dismantle it? You simply create a concerted effort through education and economic awareness that pushes the money spent at Faceless Monolith Inc. over to privately owned, local outlets. Yo alos educate local shops to optimal wholesale sourcing and tell people to support them when they do. Initially, it's painful because you start paying what things actually cost. You don't actually think that a decent pair of shoes costs what they did in 1972, do you? Of course not. If you look at inflation, those shoes that were 40.00 in 1972 would cost about 206.00, now. Only the 40.00 shoes of today are rubbish, wear out fast, and are badly made by slaves and sold 30,000 pairs at a time. Save money. Live worse. So, essentially, you shift the money away from these 767 hangars, spend it locally, the prices start to find equilibrium, local manufacturing becomes more lucrative and huge companies can no pull billions out of their ass to buy entire cargo ships full of squeaky toys and mark them up 400% and still sell them dirt cheap. It would be difficult, take years and cause a lot of hardship, initially, and the people who profit from the present model set it up that way. If you got a cheeseburger and toilet paper is still only 5.99 a 12 pack "life is good". But it would work. The only alternative is to be one paddle in a ping pong game between China and a bunch of the-store-is-the-warehouse soccer stadiums full of badly made junk, where each *phwok* on the ping pong ball creates more money for somebody who isn't you.

Farkengruven: "At a time when our economy is most fragile and ratings agencies are talking about another downgrade of the U.S. credit rating, it's completely irresponsible for Occupy Wall Street to attempt to bring the U.S. economy to a halt on the busiest shopping day of the year,"

But shutting down the the economy and the government for the last three years is OK?

Actually, if all you got is extremes, just put a match to it. At least it will change. Otherwise, vote with your wallet.