That's just a great all-around movie. The only weak moment was the sequence involving Debbie's ultimate fate. Otherwise, a classic.

IMHO, the best scene in the movie. I preferred the first.

God I'd hit that so hard.


/what? I was 13 when I first saw this movie, and I was thinking the same thing I am now

Hmmm... Thats the tv version. I guess the line: "I'm a turkey, Eat me!" was too provocative for broadcast?

I had no idea that was Christina Ricci. And yes, when I was a kid I had the boners for her.

Strange, I could find no listing for Sarah (Sara?) Miller at the Addams Family Value listing at IMDB. Anyone know who played her?

more voluptuous dancing fantasy Ricci from Bflo66 (new window)
/now who's got the Opposite of Sex 'lolita' scene?
happy thanksgiving

Eat me! Sauteed or barbequed!
Eat me! Eat up, now don't be rude!
We won't stay fresh for very long;
So eat us before we finish this song!

Is the Pilgrim girl a young Maria Bamford... or Cynthia Nixon?

I always felt that scene pretty much summed up the truth. Anglos were advanced and the natives were not. However the truth could hurt someone's feelings so we better not speak it.

/same with Africans but lets not go there

Insane_Cellist: Mercedes McNab (new window), who many Farkers would best know as Harmony in Buffy/Angel

Thanks!

BigRightRear: I always felt that scene pretty much summed up the truth. Anglos were advanced and the natives were not. However the truth could hurt someone's feelings so we better not speak it.

/same with Africans but lets not go there

Which is pretty much just the result of accidents of geography. Also, most Europeans were savages compared to Asians until the last couple thousand years.

Gwyrddu: BigRightRear: I always felt that scene pretty much summed up the truth. Anglos were advanced and the natives were not. However the truth could hurt someone's feelings so we better not speak it.

/same with Africans but lets not go there

Which is pretty much just the result of accidents of geography. Also, most Europeans were savages compared to Asians until the last couple thousand years.

Concur, but the reasons don't erase the results. See Herrnstein and Murray's (1994)The Bell Curve. The truth is painful.

BigRightRear: Concur, but the reasons don't erase the results. See Herrnstein and Murray's (1994)The Bell Curve. The truth is painful.

If you are talking about the Bell curve, then the only truth I see from that book is that education is strongly correlated with a test build on a premise that intelligence can successfully be distilled down to a single number. But yeah, education is good, that is not a painful truth.

MoronLessOff: IMHO, the best scene in the movie. I preferred the first.

This.

Ablejack: more voluptuous dancing fantasy Ricci from Bflo66 (new window)
/now who's got the Opposite of Sex 'lolita' scene?
happy thanksgiving

This. And...

Insane_Cellist: Mercedes McNab (new window), who many Farkers would best know as Harmony in Buffy/Angel

This.

Advanced. Like cancer.

TheMadChaosopher: i'm so sick of hearing indians whine about getting defeated.

that's how the world works, indians, you either defeat or get defeated.

What movie is this from?

Because if it's trolling, it's -5/10.

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TheHopeDiamond: Link (new window)

She did some lovely nudes for playboy.

Everything Paul Rudnick touches becomes an even greater gay repressive fantasy than his chosen home decor.

And that makes it pretty gay.

BigRightRear: I always felt that scene pretty much summed up the truth. Anglos were advanced and the natives were not. However the truth could hurt someone's feelings so we better not speak it.

/same with Africans but lets not go there

First off, people descended from the British Isles are Anglos, it isn't a term that applies to all Europeans. Secondly, the condemnation of European colonial behavior was never, "no, technology had nothing to do with it!", but instead, "this was a fundamentally amoral and racist system, and the things done to create and preserve it were reprehensible". Thirdly, your statement -in justifying colonialism and slavery-implies that material culture gives one the right to do whatever one pleases with those who lack it. Beyond summing up rather nicely why European Christians of the period were such disgusting hypocrites, that's a baldly Randian (and Hegelian btw) argument to be making. Should the rich be allowed to do as they please as well because they have more than others? Under that logic, what exactly was wrong with serfdom and aristocracy to begin with; those were just systems where those who had owned those who had not, after all, which is what you are justifying here. If material culture is the ultimate arbiter of social rights, then how is our democracy anything other than an amoral system depriving the wealthy of their natural status and authority?

BigRightRear: Gwyrddu: BigRightRear: I always felt that scene pretty much summed up the truth. Anglos were advanced and the natives were not. However the truth could hurt someone's feelings so we better not speak it.

/same with Africans but lets not go there

Which is pretty much just the result of accidents of geography. Also, most Europeans were savages compared to Asians until the last couple thousand years.

Concur, but the reasons don't erase the results. See Herrnstein and Murray's (1994)The Bell Curve. The truth is painful.

Drivel and Poppycock. Do you honestly think it impressive to mention in a complimentary way one of the most debunked books ever written? Your desire to believe yourself genetically superior to others is egotistical and sad.

Ah, the Noble Savage, the evil pilgrims.