Hopefully they use this as an excuse to give Spider-man the boot from the team.

How many teams is that guy on, anyway? Four? Five? The guy needs a good nights rest.

/nerd

A whole ten months? That's some kind of record, isn't it? I mean, if we don't count Bucky, that's a really long time to be dead.

gopher321: Hopefully they use this as an excuse to give Spider-man the boot from the team.

How many teams is that guy on, anyway? Four? Five? The guy needs a good nights rest.

/nerd

Wolverine nods in sympathy.

texdent: Bucky wasn't even dead to begin with

If someone dies and then years later it's retconned that they weren't actually dead, that still counts as a comic book undeath.

They mention the Richards dying, but no mention of The Thing and his being written back to life by God/Jack Kirby?

ArkAngel: I believe the unwritten rule used to be the only people who stayed dead were Bucky and Uncle Ben. Now that Bucky has been brought back, it's just Uncle Ben.

Pretty sure the Waynes were on there too.

Wow, this wasn't a cry for attention in the least.

Give me a dead character, who comes back to life, only to still be dead... AND KICK ASS.

/Was always a Spawn fan

Last Man on Earth: ArkAngel: I believe the unwritten rule used to be the only people who stayed dead were Bucky and Uncle Ben. Now that Bucky has been brought back, it's just Uncle Ben.

Pretty sure the Waynes were on there too.

The Waynes were never "alive" in comics. They were always just used in "This is why Batman is farked up in the head" flashbacks.

Is Gwen Stacy still dead, or have they dug up her corpse to add more tension to Spider-Man stories?

Comic publishers keep doing that because fands keep falling for it and so they keep doing that instead of coming up with something original

unlikely: Anyone who is surprised a dead character came back to life hasn't been reading comics very long.

Almost got Captain Marvel back but they backpedaled on that rather fast.

I want the Sentry back so they can kill him appropriately.
Or shunt him into another Universe where he gets torn apart by MiracleMan or something.

You don't get to just write a character as God and then kill him by smacking him with an airship. It's a lame cop-out.

I'm not surprised they're bringing him back, I'm just surprised they couldn't even wait a year. The sales on FF without Torch must be awful.

How many comic book heroes have permanently died?

unlikely: Anyone who is surprised a dead character came back to life hasn't been reading comics very long.



They even got his son too.

texdent: simplicimus: Oh, good greif, who hasn't died and got better?

Uncle Ben
Thomas and Martha Wayne
Dick Grayson's parents
A vast majority of Krypton

I think you can strike the Krypton thing off of there, the cities apparently just shrunk themselves to avoid doom and haven't all returned to full size yet. That's where power girl comes from in one of her various origins, iirc.

Last Man on Earth: ArkAngel: I believe the unwritten rule used to be the only people who stayed dead were Bucky and Uncle Ben. Now that Bucky has been brought back, it's just Uncle Ben.

Pretty sure the Waynes were on there too.

With all the "zombie" redos of various comics, have Bruce Wayne reunited with his zombie parents and then he has to kill them himself.

result -- even more f'ed up goddamn Batman.

Of all the comic teams, I've never understood interest in the fantastic four

Jim_Callahan: texdent: simplicimus: Oh, good greif, who hasn't died and got better?

Uncle Ben
Thomas and Martha Wayne
Dick Grayson's parents
A vast majority of Krypton

I think you can strike the Krypton thing off of there, the cities apparently just shrunk themselves to avoid doom and haven't all returned to full size yet. That's where power girl comes from in one of her various origins, iirc.

Heh. I'd love to see the Kryptonians follow Superman's lead, and come to Earth as colonizers.

"Sorry, humans, but several billion super-beings say you have to go..."

If it makes you all feel any better, Boston Brand is still dead.

/and if you get THAT reference...

This means Thor will be resurrected in three weeks!

Yeah. When Torch died, I think everyone was all like "Meh. He'll be back" and carried on as normal. I don't know anyone broken up about it.

Shrugging Atlas: Of all the comic teams, I've never understood interest in the fantastic four

It's not about the team, it's about the monsters. When FF is being a weird-science monster comic, it's at its best.

/unavailable for comment after having a heart attack when the news broke

They should have just brought back the original Human Torch and put him on the FF.

FirstNationalBastard: Anyone who buys crap like Fantastic Four/Force/FF or any DC Comic has no right to complain about comic books, because you obviously like having the same old turd polished up and shoved back in your face, and you're just contributing to the problem.

Aren't you a precious little elitist prick.

It being a Fantastic Four comic, or it being a cape comic, does not automatically preclude it from telling interesting and entertaining stories with likable old and new characters.

texdent: Hope is Jean

Hope is not Jean, though it's obvious that she was created/modeled around giving Marvel/the EIC the chance to bring Jean back if they wanted.

tomcatadam: It being a Fantastic Four comic, or it being a cape comic, does not automatically preclude it from telling interesting and entertaining stories with likable old and new characters.

No, but there's enough interesting stuff happening outside of the Marvel/DC imprints that I have no urge to send them my money.

t3knomanser: When FF is being a weird-science monster comic, it's at its best.

It wasn't original, but I quite liked the idea of a whole multiverse of Reed Richards' uniting to be the greatest collection of assholes of all of time and space.

t3knomanser: No, but there's enough interesting stuff happening outside of the Marvel/DC imprints that I have no urge to send them my money.

Yes, but his obstinate "you have no right to complain" statement is just being a dick.
Enjoying a comic because it's good shouldn't automagically mean you don't get to criticize the source or their decisions if it happens to be a DC/Marvel cape comic.

Unless that criticism is founded under the belief that such actions were unexpected, in which case I'd agree with him as such shenanigans are very common in the 'big two'.