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2011-11-24 08:06:12 AM
Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?

When you operate the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, is it a far stretch?

/Using LEDs in my house so I don't have to use hazmat protocols to clean up mercury from a broken bulb. Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.
 
2011-11-24 08:08:10 AM

Uh oh, break out the hazmat suits! It's a ....

CFL BASHING THREAD!
 
2011-11-24 08:10:44 AM
Does anyone actually make any home lighting products inside the USA these days?
 
2011-11-24 08:12:17 AM

wildcardjack: Does anyone actually make any home lighting products inside the USA these days?


Everytime someone lights a candle.
 
2011-11-24 08:12:23 AM
Forced upon us it was

By evil politicians

Intent on destroying the American Way of LifeTM

Identity of said evil ones to be "discussed" below
 
2011-11-24 08:13:58 AM
Well, yeah, this happens sometimes. Fifty years ago manufacturing standards and controls weren't particularly great, so sometimes you'd get lucky and a filament variation of some kind would settle by accident into a really favorable configuration. If you landed one of those bulbs, good for you, since _intentionally_ making one that good is quite expensive.

Fluorescents have a more consistent failure mode, but still have some variation in lifespan for similar reasons and use a hell of a lot less energy.

EnviroDude: Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?


There are any number of companies capable of making fluorescent lighting, man, CFLs aren't particularly special. GE made most of the incandescents as well for quite a while, they're just the largest manufacturer around so they can break into related markets easily.

Either way, they didn't necessarily gain much from the energy act.
 
2011-11-24 08:14:10 AM
Contents of pantry lit by ancient bulb: booze and Pringles. She must be some kind of health fanatic.

/Firefox spellchecker does not recognize Pringles
 
2011-11-24 08:14:25 AM

edmo: Forced upon us it was

By evil politicians

Intent on destroying the American Way of LifeTM

Identity of said evil ones to be "discussed" below


img.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-24 08:14:34 AM
In this Article: Homeowners bullshiatting about the life of their Incandescent bulbs to the thrill of a mostly not-gainfully-engaged media.

Alternatively: Dim bulbs.
 
2011-11-24 08:16:27 AM
Patriot Act? Warrantless wiretaps? Meh.

Mandating the type of light bulbs we use? OMFG! Creeping socialism!!!

Unite, Americans! We can beat this back the way we did nine-digit zip codes! Let's remind Big Government who this country REALLY belongs to, right?

/sigh
 
2011-11-24 08:18:32 AM
"The lights switch on and off by pulling a string instead of flipping a switch, and Bunkley believes this is the secret to their longevity."

Ummmmmm OK.
 
2011-11-24 08:19:56 AM
George Soros broke into my house and forced me to replace all my incandescent lightbulbs with CFLs.

Then he raped my cat.
 
2011-11-24 08:21:35 AM

EnviroDude: Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?


What's even funnier is that the incompetent boobs who voted this through had 87 and 84% reelection rate in 2010 (House and Senate, respectively). Unfortunately we seem to get what we deserve by keeping the same useless schmucks in office.

/100% turnover in '12 please
 
2011-11-24 08:21:56 AM

jake_lex: George Soros broke into my house and forced me AT GUNPOINT to replace all my incandescent lightbulbs with CFLs.

Then he raped my cat.


Better.
 
2011-11-24 08:22:06 AM

EnviroDude: Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?

When you operate the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, is it a far stretch?

/Using LEDs in my house so I don't have to use hazmat protocols to clean up mercury from a broken bulb. Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.


Remember, threats from allegedly "toxic" or "hazardous" or "radioactive" materials are always exaggerated, overblown, out of proportion, and just straight up lies from the liberal socialist communist gay activist liberal libby lib lib make-me-vomit propaganda liberal machine liberal libby lib lib...

UNLESS they are compact fuorescent lightbulbs in which case truly history's greatest monster threat to our freedoms hate us for our incandescence stop the tyranny refresh tree of liberty etc.
 
2011-11-24 08:25:41 AM

markfara: Patriot Act? Warrantless wiretaps? Meh.


But too many say, "You say that like it is a bad thing. More government = more civilization."
 
2011-11-24 08:27:23 AM
I had to change two fixtures because the CFLs die in them within a week - don;t know if they get too overheated or not. Standard bulbs always worked fine.

If the "early" days of CFLs the power company gave out Phillips bulbs - I put two in the basement fixtures (upside down). Woke up to the fire alarm going off and seeing a lot of smoke and the bulb base of one had nearly caused a beam to catch on fire and the other bulb was very, very hot. The bulbs were all recalled not to much later.
 
2011-11-24 08:29:59 AM
[flip switch] a dim glow appears on the wall before you. Seconds turn to minutes as you watch the transformation take place. Slowly the glow gets brighter, and you begin to make out shapes of furniture in the room. Their colors are difficult to distinguish because your eyes are still seeing in night-vision. The seconds tick away as your eyes are slowly convinced that there is adequate lighting for normal vision. On the table before you is a handwritten note, you bend close to read it... But your eye cramps horribly from the strain! You should know better than to attempt to read within 2 minutes of turning on a compact fluorescent lightbulb! You die of stupidity.
 
2011-11-24 08:31:12 AM
Elect Michelle Bachmann and this lightbulb scourge will be ended once and for all.
 
2011-11-24 08:32:01 AM
I am hijacking this thread before the light bulb derp really gets going.
orbitlightshow.com
 
2011-11-24 08:32:11 AM

EnviroDude: Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?

When you operate the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, is it a far stretch?

/Using LEDs in my house so I don't have to use hazmat protocols to clean up mercury from a broken bulb. Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.


Dumbest post I've read all week ...right out the gate...
 
2011-11-24 08:33:38 AM

11of12: I am hijacking this thread before the light bulb derp really gets going.
[orbitlightshow.com image 449x601]


Awesome. You're never gonna get that quality of lighting from a CFL.
 
2011-11-24 08:34:55 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-24 08:35:37 AM
My wife is using CFL and LED lights in in her medical marijuana cultivation, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2011-11-24 08:36:21 AM
gremlindog.com
 
2011-11-24 08:38:07 AM

exvaxman: If the "early" days of CFLs the power company gave out Phillips bulbs - I put two in the basement fixtures (upside down). Woke up to the fire alarm going off and seeing a lot of smoke and the bulb base of one had nearly caused a beam to catch on fire and the other bulb was very, very hot. The bulbs were all recalled not to much later.


This is why you should use Philips bulbs, not those third world knock-offs. I suggest not buying your kids Spayder-man toys as well.
 
2011-11-24 08:38:07 AM
Planned obsolescence. A few years ago I was at a friend's house and his mom was on the phone with some relatives in Germany. She told them she had to go to get some light bulbs for the house before it got dark. They were like, "Huh? You broke your light bulbs?" and she replied "No, they burned out." Well, they have no idea what the fark a light bulb burning out even means. Our companies suck.
 
2011-11-24 08:40:10 AM

11of12:


So what is the lumen output of those high beams?
 
2011-11-24 08:43:21 AM

wildlifer: 11of12:

So what is the lumen output of those high beams?


Given the inverse square law, you're not going to be close enough to find out.
 
2011-11-24 08:46:08 AM
www.costumeuniverse.com
 
2011-11-24 08:46:56 AM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.

Dumbest post I've read all week ...right out the gate...


http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html
(new window)
 
2011-11-24 08:47:39 AM

11of12: I am hijacking this thread before the light bulb derp really gets going.
[orbitlightshow.com image 449x601]


...is that a real woman or a drawing? I can't tell.
 
2011-11-24 08:49:24 AM

Thorndyke Barnhard: EnviroDude: Isn't it funny how GE, maker of CFLs was able to lobby congress to insert verbiage into the energy act to eliminate the manufacture of traditional incandescents?

When you operate the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, is it a far stretch?

/Using LEDs in my house so I don't have to use hazmat protocols to clean up mercury from a broken bulb. Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.

Dumbest post I've read all week ...right out the gate...


Yes. Inhaling the fumes from Oust and Lysol is more dangerous than cleaning up a CFL.

/...I'm talking about regular use, not huffing.
 
2011-11-24 08:49:28 AM
fashion.3yen.com
 
2011-11-24 08:50:06 AM
I use a 1960 Westinghouse refridgerator and stove. If you turn the fridge up too much it will freeze everything. The door seals are still in great shape and it runs oh so quietly. Sure you have to empty it and defrost it a few times a year but...1960. It's a year older than I am!
 
2011-11-24 08:50:16 AM
getlitstaylit.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-11-24 08:50:18 AM

IlGreven: 11of12: I am hijacking this thread before the light bulb derp really gets going.
[orbitlightshow.com image 449x601]

...is that a real woman or a drawingillustration? I can't tell.


...drawing, illustration, it's all lines on cellulose...some of 'em colored.
 
2011-11-24 08:51:23 AM
www.halloweenandcostumes.com
 
2011-11-24 08:58:24 AM
img689.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-24 09:02:48 AM
So, how much mercury is released into the atmosphere by burning coal needed to generate the extra energy requirements of incandescent bulbs over, say, LED bulbs?
 
2011-11-24 09:03:57 AM
i158.photobucket.com

/Also Byron.
 
2011-11-24 09:06:29 AM
img546.imageshack.us
 
2011-11-24 09:08:54 AM

EnviroDude: /Using LEDs in my house so I don't have to use hazmat protocols to clean up mercury from a broken bulb. Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.


Eating a couple of tuna sandwiches probably gives you as much mercury exposure as cleaning up a busted CFL bulb. Incandescent mercury vapor bulbs have been around for years. Cathode ray tubes, mercury switches, thermometers, dental fillings from as late as the early 90s. Wonder how many of those you have been exposed to? To bad too man, if it weren't for all that mercury you woulda lived forever.
 
2011-11-24 09:10:21 AM

EnviroDude: Thorndyke Barnhard: Hopes that my fark brethren never have to ventilate their homes in the dead of a cold winter per US EPA recommendations.

Dumbest post I've read all week ...right out the gate...

http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html (new window)


What if I can't follow all the recommended steps? or I cleaned up a CFL but didn't do it properly?

Don't be alarmed; these steps are only precautions that reflect best practices for cleaning up a broken CFL. Keep in mind that CFLs contain a very small amount of mercury -- less than 1/100th of the amount in a mercury thermometer.
(new window)

Phasing out the manufacture of obsolete and wasteful tech like incandescents also isn't the conspiracy you make it out to be, and the legislation doesn't require anyone to go with CFL over say LEDs which you yourself mention.
 
2011-11-24 09:14:08 AM
CFLs are fine. Government force is not. Keep your government dick beaters out of my lighting choices.
 
2011-11-24 09:17:28 AM

bigsteve3OOO: CFLs are fine. Government force is not. Keep your government dick beaters out of my lighting choices.


Light bulb legislation falls beneath my "who gives a sh*t" threshold. Am I part of the problem?
 
2011-11-24 09:18:48 AM
Actually, CFLs are already obsolete.

A 100 watt Incandescent = a 29 watt CFL = a 13 watt LED light.

Incandescents last an average of 750-1,000 hours of continuous use. CFLs last 6,000-15,000

LED lights last around 50,000 hours, before noticeable dimming occurs. They do not ever actually "burn out". they just fade.

Also, while CFLs may require "warm up" periods, especially in cold weather, LEDs are, like incandescents "Instant On" lights.

So, LEDs use about half the energy of CFLs, and last three times longer (before a noticeable difference), and they turn on instantly.

Only problem they have is that they are a single-frequency light, which some people dislike for lack of detail visibility. I'm personally not that bothered by it.
 
2011-11-24 09:20:42 AM

Fool_Marquis: Only problem they have is that they are a single-frequency light, which some people dislike for lack of detail visibility.


Then CFLs aren't "obsolete".
 
2011-11-24 09:21:10 AM

11of12: I am hijacking this thread before the light bulb derp really gets going.
[orbitlightshow.com image 449x601]


Excellent hijack man! Keep up the good work.
 
2011-11-24 09:21:22 AM
I have bulbs in my house that have been in service for well more than 11 years. It's only the ones made in China recently that are POS's.

The government is not banning all incandescents, folks - just a few types. And if manufacturers want to market the newer bulbs that are just as efficient as CFLs, they are welcome to do so.

/have stocked up and also using halogens. Waiting for LED technology to mature.
 
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