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(Some Guy) Interesting School cancels Zombie Day because of students "Heil Hitler" salutes. Some blame a sense of duty   (kirotv.com) divider line 97
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2011-11-23 08:51:11 PM
i836.photobucket.com

Bellamy Salute?
 
2011-11-23 08:53:14 PM
I hate zombie Nazis
 
2011-11-23 09:01:54 PM
RodneyToady: Bellamy Salute?

Came here to say that the kids were just being historically accurate.

If they're gonna repeat the words a Socialist wrote, might as well let 'em salute.
 
2011-11-23 09:31:42 PM
maxcdn.fooyoh.com

They'll show them the true meaning of being a zombie Nazi
 
2011-11-23 09:43:25 PM
They're re-animating their dead soldiers with clocksprings and steam.
 
2011-11-23 09:56:36 PM
Talk about not news.
 
2011-11-23 10:05:59 PM
"Nazi's"?

How does someone working for a school not know this is wrong???
 
2011-11-23 10:26:57 PM
maxcdn.fooyoh.com

The movie was cheesy, but I love the concept.

It deserves a remake by like, Steven Spielburg or somebody.
 
2011-11-24 01:19:01 AM
shanrick: They're re-animating their dead soldiers with clocksprings and steam.

babydoll
 
2011-11-24 01:19:36 AM
shivashakti: "Nazi's"?

How does someone working for a school not know this is wrong???


Thissy-thisser-thisserly-this.
 
2011-11-24 01:22:53 AM
Godscrack: [maxcdn.fooyoh.com image 449x298]

The movie was cheesy, but I love the concept.

It deserves a remake by like, Steven Spielburg or somebody.


And it had the most vexingly amazing promo video ever (new window)
 
2011-11-24 01:23:15 AM
I'm impressed, done in one.
 
2011-11-24 01:24:25 AM
RodneyToady: [i836.photobucket.com image 370x290]

Bellamy Salute?


Done in one.

Kids, parents and school officials need to learn some history, dammit.
 
2011-11-24 01:28:31 AM
shivashakti: "Nazi's"?

How does someone working for a school not know this is wrong???


Well... teachers at the Zombie Day school are not using their BRRRAAAINS.
 
2011-11-24 01:31:34 AM
wambu: RodneyToady: [i836.photobucket.com image 370x290]

Bellamy Salute?

Done in one.

Kids, parents and school officials need to learn some history, dammit.


I've got no problem with moving away from the Bellamy Salute. It really doesn't matter one way or another.
What I DID find fascinating is that the whole thing is almost completely sanitized from history. There was never anything "wrong" with it and nothing to hide, per se. But it's weird that things can just be erased from national memory like that.

All that exists are less than a dozen photos on GIS, and a Wikipedia entry. It's quite obscure, you'd never know if you didn't go looking for it specifically and there's nothing that WOULD lead a person to go looking for it. Even though it was a national ritual for 50 years.
 
2011-11-24 01:32:31 AM
I was a Nazi clown for halloween
 
2011-11-24 01:36:21 AM
When there's no more room in heil
 
2011-11-24 01:41:40 AM
shivashakti: "Nazi's"?

How does someone working for a school not know this is wrong???


I have no idea how they did Nazi that.
 
2011-11-24 01:45:20 AM
students were caught doing "Heil Hitler" salutes during the pledge of allegiance

You have to give them credit for making the connection between Nazism and tools of nationalistic indoctrination.
 
2011-11-24 01:45:59 AM
wambu: RodneyToady: [i836.photobucket.com image 370x290]

Bellamy Salute?

Done in one.

Kids, parents and school officials need to learn some history, dammit.


One thing I've always found interesting is how the Nazis were able to associate so many symbols as being only their own. I wonder how many people honestly think that the Roman salute and the swastika are the sole province of the Nazis.
 
2011-11-24 01:46:11 AM
one hand salute = nazi
two hand salute = double nazi or zombie...
 
2011-11-24 01:46:31 AM
So... the gamer dorks farked up Zombie Day for the movie geeks and cosplay dweebs, huh? Maybe they'll return the favor just before Grand Theft Auto day by running over the principal or something.

/wonders if they have "do some goddamn schoolwork day"
 
2011-11-24 01:46:34 AM
I like turtles.
 
2011-11-24 01:48:38 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: I hate zombie Nazis

Especially those pesky Zombie Illinois Nazis!
 
2011-11-24 01:49:33 AM
I feel that the school was quite level headed in their response. Was anyone else glad that they didn't call for the banning of generic FPS #214?
 
2011-11-24 01:53:41 AM
"I pledge fidelity owed by me to the government."

It's easy to see why patriotic Americans would have a problem with using a salute associated with fascism while making that statement.

They know nothing.
 
2011-11-24 01:54:05 AM
JPINFV
One thing I've always found interesting is how the Nazis were able to associate so many symbols as being only their own.


I don't think they did it themselves.
There are a lot more movies and pictures about WWII than about Romans or Indian religions - not to mention the lack of live footage of Caesar rallying his troops.
 
2011-11-24 01:56:15 AM
JPINFV: wambu: RodneyToady: [i836.photobucket.com image 370x290]

Bellamy Salute?

Done in one.

Kids, parents and school officials need to learn some history, dammit.

One thing I've always found interesting is how the Nazis were able to associate so many symbols as being only their own. I wonder how many people honestly think that the Roman salute and the swastika are the sole province of the Nazis.


The same ones who believe that humans and dinosaurs lived together.
 
2011-11-24 01:59:46 AM
JackalRabbit: shanrick: They're re-animating their dead soldiers with clocksprings and steam.

babydoll



That movie managed to have steam-powered Nazi zombies and STILL suck somehow.... incredible.
 
2011-11-24 02:01:06 AM
The Nazi's themselves are really visually striking polished Icons of evil. The uniform look good visually and looking back at dry wwII footage, they were cool evil enemies lost in history to most kids at that age. That is what the video games pick up on and that is what the kids get it from.

Instead of making the 'Nazism', (or the Nazi image itself) cool to the students by acting like douches, just make the kids watch some really depressing wwII 70's Shoah film. Invite some GI's who were in the battle of the bulge, or camp survivors with tattoos on the arms.

I am sure the JDL must have some local resources that they can point the school to, to point out the reality vs the video game images.

/Even I think Nazi Zombies cannot be anything but cool.
 
2011-11-24 02:04:08 AM
How can anyone say any zombie movie is "cheesy"? They are ALL cheesy. And Død Sno is among the best of the best--- ever seen anything like the toilet scene anywhere else?. Are there any movies that rival it for disembowelments?


Godscrack: [maxcdn.fooyoh.com image 449x298]

The movie was cheesy, but I love the concept.

It deserves a remake by like, Steven Spielburg or somebody.
 
2011-11-24 02:07:13 AM
g-ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-11-24 02:07:46 AM
everyone knows nazis actually shout "Mein leben!" when they die
 
2011-11-24 02:15:41 AM
Gothnet: JackalRabbit: shanrick: They're re-animating their dead soldiers with clocksprings and steam.

babydoll


That movie managed to have steam-powered Nazi zombies and STILL suck somehow.... incredible.


I have this conversation with a work mate on an ongoing conversation. He also hated the movie and thought it sucked. I however think it was a really decent piece of work and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thought the visuals and the story were remarkable.
 
2011-11-24 02:17:53 AM
Forgive me for asking, but they're not doing it to glorify nazi's, so what's the problem? Why is doing it to make fun of and mock nazis also bad?
 
2011-11-24 02:31:31 AM
Oh, for fark's sake. Somebody think of the children! Videogames are evil!

When was the last time a farking zombie Nazi was a threat to anyone?
 
2011-11-24 02:31:58 AM
Geeze! Nazi's are like the modern day black man. Anyways, what the kids should do is hail Hitler on SAT day.
 
2011-11-24 02:33:55 AM
Well, I guess you could say the school did...

...(takes off glasses)...

...Nazi this coming!
 
2011-11-24 02:39:54 AM
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Well, I guess you could say the school did...

...(takes off glasses)...

...Nazi this coming!


YEAAAAAHHHHHH!

Also: Teachers are still clueless about anything video game oriented. I quote from their concerned letter to parents:

When questioned, students shared that this is coming from their XBox game called Black Ops and possibly another game called Modern Warfare III. Our understanding is that the Nazi's are zombies in the Black Ops game

So, the kids could tell the teachers ANYTHING was from somewhere in a "game called somethingorother" and the teachers would a) believe it implicitly and b) run around in panic without bothering to check. Kids, you need to start telling your teachers about the horrible consequences of, oh, finals or grades, and say you learned it from "Saints Row the Third". Trust me, they'll never look.
 
2011-11-24 02:47:01 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: I hate zombie Nazis

www.wearysloth.com

One thing about living in Olympia I never could stomach: all the damn zombie Nazis.
 
2011-11-24 02:49:33 AM
Enemabag Jones: Invite some GI's who were in the battle of the bulge,


Uh, why?

Inviting some Germans who were in the battle of the bulge or involved with D-day would make a different point?

Oh it would, because the Germans were all evil, I get it. :)


/no honestly, I think you're a moron.
 
2011-11-24 02:54:08 AM
Gyrfalcon: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Well, I guess you could say the school did...

...(takes off glasses)...

...Nazi this coming!

YEAAAAAHHHHHH!

Also: Teachers are still clueless about anything video game oriented. I quote from their concerned letter to parents:

When questioned, students shared that this is coming from their XBox game called Black Ops and possibly another game called Modern Warfare III. Our understanding is that the Nazi's are zombies in the Black Ops game

So, the kids could tell the teachers ANYTHING was from somewhere in a "game called somethingorother" and the teachers would a) believe it implicitly and b) run around in panic without bothering to check. Kids, you need to start telling your teachers about the horrible consequences of, oh, finals or grades, and say you learned it from "Saints Row the Third". Trust me, they'll never look.


You know too much you would never be allowed within 50 ft of children ; )
 
2011-11-24 03:19:32 AM
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Well, I guess you could say the school did...

...(takes off glasses)...

...Nazi this coming!


Repeating a joke made 50 minutes earlier makes it so much funnier!
 
2011-11-24 03:22:07 AM
evilmousse: everyone knows nazis actually shout "Mein leben!" when they die

GUTEN TAG!
 
2011-11-24 03:32:05 AM
Vern: evilmousse: everyone knows nazis actually shout "Mein leben!" when they die

GUTEN TAG!


And here I thought they said scheisse.
 
2011-11-24 03:46:16 AM
spawn73,
Inviting some Germans who were in the battle of the bulge or involved with D-day would make a different point?
Oh it would, because the Germans were all evil, I get it. :)
/no honestly, I think you're a moron.


Think what you want. No I don't think all Germans were evil. Some clearly let go of their moral compass. Did the guy on the mp42 in a foxhole fighting for his fatherland, was that evil, not necessarily. Not all Americans were necessarily 100% good either. Russians soldiers in WWII allegedly loved to rape.

My point was that not all war is running around shooting things and fun. I saw the kids reaction as a teaching opportunity.

Show them a guy who had been through that hell and back, slick video games don't reflect reality and war is not that fun. It is a teachable moment.

I do think too many Germans had a moral lapse during wwII, but they sure accounted for that later. Japan on the other side did not come to full terms with their past actions.

Now go around being the internet tough guy calling other people morons on a whim.
 
2011-11-24 03:58:56 AM
I might sound like a prude but there is nothing funny about the Holocaust. I got a once in a lifetime chance, in 8th grade, to journey to a Synagogue and listen to Holocaust survivors tell their stories as a part of a project we were doing on the subject. I hadn't ever been so humbled in my short years as I was that day. There is nothing clever about what those teenagers were doing. If you're going to turn the the Holocaust into a joke, you're going to have to try harder.

/Why does ignorance have to hurt so much
//I hate teenagers :(
 
2011-11-24 04:07:37 AM
This is why one-armed people are not allowed to ride roller coasters in Germany.
 
2011-11-24 04:19:24 AM
spawn73

Enemabag Jones: Invite some GI's who were in the battle of the bulge,


Uh, why?

Inviting some Germans who were in the battle of the bulge or involved with D-day would make a different point?

Oh it would, because the Germans were all evil, I get it. :)


/no honestly, I think you're a moron.


I don't. I figure he has a point. It's been so long since WW2 that the majority of those who served are dead. Their children are in their 50's and 60's and their Grandkids know only second and third hand about the war and the atrocities which happened.

Nazi's didn't only slaughter Jews, but slaughtered their own 'defectives' -- the mentally ill, the mentally retarded, the chronically infirm and got kids to rat out their parents if the parents said anything against the Nazi order. Then, the SS showed up and 'corrected' the parents, usually by beating the shiat out of them or 'arresting' the uncooperative parent and taking them to jail, from which they often did not return.

The kids were made heroes for ratting out their families and friends. Most were in the Hitler Youth.

Hitler's main generals were sadists and rabid racists. They were known to order entire conquered cities slaughtered as an 'object' lesson. The Nazi soldier was one tough fighter, but they had no option: protest and you got shot. Don't follow orders and you got shot. Retreat because your lines were being slaughtered and you got shot.

The horrors of the Death camps are legendary. Not just for the Jews, but for any allied prisoner dumped in one. However, even if you were Catholic but looked a bit Jewish, it didn't matter where you came from. You got shoved in the extermination camps.

By the time the war was winding down, Hitler was sending kids into battle as young as 12. Poorly trained and ill equipped. He had managed to get the majority of his fighting force slaughtered or captured.

Those tales you read about the allies, taking over prison camps and finding piles of human teeth -- with gold fillings -- and huge piles of used clothing, were not lies.

Nor were they lies about women and children being marched into death camps, separated from their husbands, forced to strip and herded into a 'shower' chamber for a shower -- only to be gassed to death.

The gas they used, BTW, guaranteed a quick but painful death. Should the cleanup crews find anyone alive afterwards, they were shot on the spot.

Nazi's were rabid racists. That means you had to be basically pure, Nordic white. If you were even part Jewish, you were looked down on. If you were part Italian, Polish or Middle Eastern, you were ranked as third class citizens. If you were black, you didn't stand a chance in hell.

The Nazi's epitomized nearly everything evil and cruel in the world.
The fact that Hitler was able to persuade an ENTIRE NATION into following his insane beliefs is still pretty remarkable today, the sign of an insane genius.

No. There is no glory in imitating Nazi's, even if they look cool. Which they often did. Hitler himself looked pretty much like a quiet, somewhat shy grandfather -- but he also had members of his own family slaughtered if they were retarded or mentally ill.

Had he discovered the atomic bomb before the US did, you'd all be speaking German now and forget about anything like civil rights. Actually, forget about ANY rights. You'd not have cell phones, personal computers, iPads, Blackberry's or anything close to them because they could be used to foment sedition. The technology might exist, but it would be mainly the governments and certainly used to keep an eye on YOU.

If you didn't have white skin, blond hair, blue eyes and could trace your heritage back to Germany, you'd be a second class citizen, never able to get a good job or to climb up in the ranks. There would probably be no living Jews in the US or in Germany and any nation harboring them would be under a constant state of siege.

In the 50's and 60's we thought Communism was bad -- and it was. However, it could not hold a candle to what it would have been like to live under Nazi rule.

You oughta get down on your knees and thank your daddy or granddaddy for going to war and your momma or grandmother for working their arses off under harsh conditions to supply the troops, all to keep your lily white arse -- or black or brown or red or yellow -- having the freedoms to be an idiot without getting slaughtered for it.

IMO, some of these game makers need to start taking more responsibility for what they produce, which is designed to ONLY make them rich, since they obviously haven't learned how easily the young can be influenced.
 
2011-11-24 04:19:48 AM
Enemabag Jones: spawn73,
Inviting some Germans who were in the battle of the bulge or involved with D-day would make a different point?
Oh it would, because the Germans were all evil, I get it. :)
/no honestly, I think you're a moron.

Think what you want. No I don't think all Germans were evil. Some clearly let go of their moral compass. Did the guy on the mp42 in a foxhole fighting for his fatherland, was that evil, not necessarily. Not all Americans were necessarily 100% good either. Russians soldiers in WWII allegedly loved to rape.

My point was that not all war is running around shooting things and fun. I saw the kids reaction as a teaching opportunity.

Show them a guy who had been through that hell and back, slick video games don't reflect reality and war is not that fun. It is a teachable moment.

I do think too many Germans had a moral lapse during wwII, but they sure accounted for that later. Japan on the other side did not come to full terms with their past actions.

Now go around being the internet tough guy calling other people morons on a whim.


Good points, I feel the need to tell you about a friend of mine from a few years back. First of he's gay and the theatrical kind when I knew him he was doing drag. But his grandfathers both served in WW2.

One fought outside of Cain on D-day in a German panzer division, the other ended up fighting with Patton's 3rd army group in the Ardeen forest. He Even showed me the copy of the famous "weather prayer" Patton issued that his grandfather somehow saved.

Maybe it was his theatrical side and the sense of history he felt, but he became a reenactor for a while. He had a very nice uniform , I've seen it. It was he said a replica of his grandfathers unit, the German grandfather. If you know your history you'll know what German Panzer division fought at Cain.

/history is important
 
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