Guy sounds like a child. You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

Montréal Impact can afford to pay more in Canadian Dollars now....Ka-Ching!

*His mentor looks on approvingly*

If you liked it, you should've put a ring on it put him on the protected list. Houston was trying to protect 12. They got trolled.

toobsok: Guy sounds like a child. You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

Yeah, it's totally beneath him. Real athletes would not want to play on a crap team for the love the game!

toobsok: You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

This is one area of professional sport that drives me nuts as a fan. Vancouver lost a second overall draft pick because he had several bullshiat reasons for not wanting to play here. The Grizzlies were a phenominally shiatty team, but that's why they got such a high draft spot. And you could easily argue that losing young talent like that went a long way to the team failling and relocating.


/not bitter
//enjoying the vent tho
///and the lockout

Expansion draft? What the fark for?

I'm pretty sure Mister Ching is entitled to have a say in his own destiny considering all the MLS championships he's won.

/how many has he won? Two?

I read the Montréal Impact will him trade back to Houston for a couple of those orange stripped baseball jerseys.

Jim from Saint Paul: [www.247sportstalk.com image 300x300]

*His mentor looks on approvingly*

Wouldn't that be this guy?

InOmnibusCaritas: MiamiBlues: Yeah, it's totally beneath him. Real athletes would not want to play on a crap team for the love the game!

[www.uslsoccer.com image 160x203]

[i197.photobucket.com image 453x639]

To be fair, Ricky Henderson played for the love of Ricky Henderson. That, and the love of seeing his name everywhere.

In Newark? Doubtful.

/Big Rickey fan. One of the best I ever saw or will see

InOmnibusCaritas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

And if you enlist for Military service, should you be able to tell them that you'd prefer to man the lines in Southern California instead of Afghanistan? Part of the job... deal with it or go work in an office somewhere you want to live.

Apples/Oranges. And quite frankly, a stupid comparison

He signed a contract with Houston, he's got the right to retire without penalty. His contact doesn't say that he's required to leave the country to go play somewhere else.

If I sign a contract with the military, I can't just leave without penalty. Furthermore, if I sign a contract with the army, they can't just trade me to the Air Force, nor can they require that I go join Canada's army.

You really don't think that was anywhere close to similar do you?

I have much love and respect for Ching given all he's done for the USMNT, but if he really wanted to stay in Houston he would have negotiated a No-Trade clause with the league.

If Houston really wanted to keep him, they would have protected him.

Maybe a dick move by Montreal, but a damn smart one.

I'm surprised they didn't take Adu as well. I think in Montreal Freddy could have been a real impact player.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: InOmnibusCaritas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

And if you enlist for Military service, should you be able to tell them that you'd prefer to man the lines in Southern California instead of Afghanistan? Part of the job... deal with it or go work in an office somewhere you want to live.

Apples/Oranges. And quite frankly, a stupid comparison

He signed a contract with Houston, he's got the right to retire without penalty. His contact doesn't say that he's required to leave the country to go play somewhere else.

If I sign a contract with the military, I can't just leave without penalty. Furthermore, if I sign a contract with the army, they can't just trade me to the Air Force, nor can they require that I go join Canada's army.

You really don't think that was anywhere close to similar do you?

He signed a contract with MLS, not with Houston. His contract did not have a no trade clause.

Individual teams do not hold player contracts, they are all signed by MLS.

error 303: HideAndGoFarkYourself: InOmnibusCaritas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

And if you enlist for Military service, should you be able to tell them that you'd prefer to man the lines in Southern California instead of Afghanistan? Part of the job... deal with it or go work in an office somewhere you want to live.

Apples/Oranges. And quite frankly, a stupid comparison

He signed a contract with Houston, he's got the right to retire without penalty. His contact doesn't say that he's required to leave the country to go play somewhere else.

If I sign a contract with the military, I can't just leave without penalty. Furthermore, if I sign a contract with the army, they can't just trade me to the Air Force, nor can they require that I go join Canada's army.

You really don't think that was anywhere close to similar do you?

He signed a contract with MLS, not with Houston. His contract did not have a no trade clause.

Individual teams do not hold player contracts, they are all signed by MLS.

The point remains, he has the right to retire at any time. Soldiers do not have that right.

ZMugg: Jim from Saint Paul: [www.247sportstalk.com image 300x300]

*His mentor looks on approvingly*

Wouldn't that be this guy?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

Well sure, if your're in your late 40's.

error 303: I have much love and respect for Ching given all he's done for the USMNT, but if he really wanted to stay in Houston he would have negotiated a No-Trade clause with the league.

If Houston really wanted to keep him, they would have protected him.

Maybe a dick move by Montreal, but a damn smart one.

I'm surprised they didn't take Adu as well. I think in Montreal Freddy could have been a real impact player.

I've been hearing for years that Adu could have been a real impact player. First at DC United, then Benfica, then back to MLS. It's never panned out. He's good in flashes, then he flames out, dramatically.

ZMugg: Jim from Saint Paul: [www.247sportstalk.com image 300x300]

*His mentor looks on approvingly*

Wouldn't that be this guy?

[john elway.jpg]

Or what about this guy?

I bet this whole fiasco ends zero to zero.

In the words of Brian Ching, "Some days just put a smile on your face"

We are all GLAD you didn't go to the word cup.

/nice job Coach Marsch.

Zoidfarb: toobsok: You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

This is one area of professional sport that drives me nuts as a fan. Vancouver lost a second overall draft pick because he had several bullshiat reasons for not wanting to play here. The Grizzlies were a phenominally shiatty team, but that's why they got such a high draft spot. And you could easily argue that losing young talent like that went a long way to the team failling and relocating.

/not bitter
//enjoying the vent tho
///and the lockout

Please. Don't get me started on the Grizzlies. Now all I have left to cheer for is Toronto. I'm Calgarian.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: toobsok: Guy sounds like a child. You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

I have no problem with him retiring. But you can NEVER compare professional sports to any other job. They are not the same. Professional sports is a unique area in which to work. I have problems with athletes, who are, for all intents and purposes, a commodity to the owners (not an employee) that refuse to play somewhere even though that team purchased/drafted them legally and outright and should have all rights to the player as a commodity.

Brian Ching wasn't guarded by the Dynamo, so Montreal had every right to snag him. The way he is complaining - "I can't get over not being selected to the World Cup team") etc. - screams of petulance.

Retire. Fine. Just don't whine and set demands that weren't in your contract in the first place.

If I was lucky enough to play basketball for a living, I'd play in any damn city I was sent and be damn happy to do so.

InOmnibusCaritas: To be fair, Ricky Henderson played for the love of Ricky Henderson. That, and the love of seeing his name everywhere.

Rickey Is Rickey.

a soccer player flopping and wailing to try to get his way? i'm shocked.

Jim from Saint Paul: ZMugg: Jim from Saint Paul: [www.247sportstalk.com image 300x300]

*His mentor looks on approvingly*

Wouldn't that be this guy?

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

Well sure, if your're in your late 40's.

Mid 50's

Still hate the guy.

"I don't wanna play in Baltimore".

Boo Hoo, Go where you're drafted, you pussy.

toobsok: HideAndGoFarkYourself: toobsok: Guy sounds like a child. You get paid to play a sport. Cherish it and stop your farking whining, you prima-donna.

I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

I have no problem with him retiring. But you can NEVER compare professional sports to any other job. They are not the same. Professional sports is a unique area in which to work. I have problems with athletes, who are, for all intents and purposes, a commodity to the owners (not an employee) that refuse to play somewhere even though that team purchased/drafted them legally and outright and should have all rights to the player as a commodity.

Brian Ching wasn't guarded by the Dynamo, so Montreal had every right to snag him. The way he is complaining - "I can't get over not being selected to the World Cup team") etc. - screams of petulance.

Retire. Fine. Just don't whine and set demands that weren't in your contract in the first place.

If I was lucky enough to play basketball for a living, I'd play in any damn city I was sent and be damn happy to do so.

The owners don't OWN the players. They draft them, for the right to first negotiations for a contract.

MLS players are employees, not property. As such, they're still human, and can still opt not to go move out of their own country to play soccer for a team they don't want to play for. Period.

He never set a demand, he simply told Montreal not to draft him, because he wouldn't play for them. Something a 33 year old man should be allowed to do. He's basically saying "i'm not relocating from Houston to Montreal, i'm going to leave the company.

Nothing wrong with it.

Professional athletes enjoy the benefits of a professional league and the money that goes with that league. The league exists to make money and the players share (sometimes more, sometimes less) in that. What some of these players can not seem to grasp is that a league where all the best players decide they ONLY want to play for team X, Y or Z eventually leads to a league that only contains team X, Y and Z and there's a HELL of a lot less money in a 3 team league than a 20 or 30 team league.

He has the right to retire, fine do so. He does not have the right to dictate terms for any legal trade/draft that the league determines will result in a wider fan base and more income to the league.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: error 303: I have much love and respect for Ching given all he's done for the USMNT, but if he really wanted to stay in Houston he would have negotiated a No-Trade clause with the league.

If Houston really wanted to keep him, they would have protected him.

Maybe a dick move by Montreal, but a damn smart one.

I'm surprised they didn't take Adu as well. I think in Montreal Freddy could have been a real impact player.

I've been hearing for years that Adu could have been a real impact player. First at DC United, then Benfica, then back to MLS. It's never panned out. He's good in flashes, then he flames out, dramatically.

I was trying to make a funny... :|

Fizpez: Professional athletes enjoy the benefits of a professional league and the money that goes with that league. The league exists to make money and the players share (sometimes more, sometimes less) in that. What some of these players can not seem to grasp is that a league where all the best players decide they ONLY want to play for team X, Y or Z eventually leads to a league that only contains team X, Y and Z and there's a HELL of a lot less money in a 3 team league than a 20 or 30 team league.

He has the right to retire, fine do so. He does not have the right to dictate terms for any legal trade/draft that the league determines will result in a wider fan base and more income to the league.

La Liga, Serie A, and the EPL would like to disagree. Seriously, for the most part those leagues are ruled by 3-4 teams each, with most of the best players....not just in the league, but the world. Those leagues do just fine.

toobsok: Brian Ching wasn't guarded by the Dynamo, so Montreal had every right to snag him. The way he is complaining - "I can't get over not being selected to the World Cup team") etc. - screams of petulance.


Your comments scream of jealousy. Man has a right to state a preference for who he works for. Getting cut on the eve of the World Cup ended his chance of EVER qualifying for another World Cup...last chance in his life. Petulance would be warranted if we were talking about something more...minor...something that could be easily replaced. That kind of lost opportunity can't be replaced.


Retire. Fine. Just don't whine and set demands that weren't in your contract in the first place.


Says the child that knows nothing about contracts.

who did what now ?... (reads 1/2 of article), who cares ?

JK47: toobsok: Brian Ching wasn't guarded by the Dynamo, so Montreal had every right to snag him. The way he is complaining - "I can't get over not being selected to the World Cup team") etc. - screams of petulance.


Your comments scream of jealousy. Man has a right to state a preference for who he works for. Getting cut on the eve of the World Cup ended his chance of EVER qualifying for another World Cup...last chance in his life. Petulance would be warranted if we were talking about something more...minor...something that could be easily replaced. That kind of lost opportunity can't be replaced.


Retire. Fine. Just don't whine and set demands that weren't in your contract in the first place.


Says the child that knows nothing about contracts.

You're goddamn right I'm jealous. He plays soccer for a living. Who wouldn't be? So he got cut from the World Cup. So what? The team decided that it was better without him. It's not like he was cut for any other reason other than he wasn't good enough. He didn't get what he wanted so now he is complaining and holding grudges. Tell me how that isn't childish. It was no one's fault but his own.

And where in his contract does it state that he won't play in certain places? Where does it state that he cannot be picked by Montreal in an expansion draft? Does he have a no movement clause? Apparently not, or else Montreal wouldn't have been able to draft him.

I have no problem with him retiring because he didn't want to play in Montreal. That is fine and that is his right. But from my perspective, if I'm given an opportunity to play a sport I love and get paid to do so, I'll play anywhere I have the chance.

InOmnibusCaritas: MiamiBlues: Yeah, it's totally beneath him. Real athletes would not want to play on a crap team for the love the game!

[www.uslsoccer.com image 160x203]

[i197.photobucket.com image 453x639]

To be fair, Ricky Henderson played for the love of Ricky Henderson. That, and the love of seeing his name everywhere.

While Rickey Henderson appreciates you guys mentioning Rickey Henderson, Rickey Henderson doesn't feels that your comments about Rickey Henderson fully explain the greatness that is Rickey Henderson.

//Rickey Henderson

Ching's big issue isn't that he doesn't want to play for a crappy team. It's the fact that his wife is a medical resident. Switching programs is really difficult and going to Canada would fark up her future licencing. It was a similar problem when he got transgress to Houston from the quakes.

Longtime Lurker: Ching's big issue isn't that he doesn't want to play for a crappy team. It's the fact that his wife is a medical resident. Switching programs is really difficult and going to Canada would fark up her future licencing. It was a similar problem when he got transgress to Houston from the quakes.

Transferred. Ftfm

"HideAndGoFarkYourself 2011-11-23 07:08:51 PM

InOmnibusCaritas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

And if you enlist for Military service, should you be able to tell them that you'd prefer to man the lines in Southern California instead of Afghanistan? Part of the job... deal with it or go work in an office somewhere you want to live.

Apples/Oranges. And quite frankly, a stupid comparison

He signed a contract with Houston, he's got the right to retire without penalty. His contact doesn't say that he's required to leave the country to go play somewhere else.

If I sign a contract with the military, I can't just leave without penalty. Furthermore, if I sign a contract with the army, they can't just trade me to the Air Force, nor can they require that I go join Canada's army.

You really don't think that was anywhere close to similar do you?"

Actually, his contract is with MLS, so no he really doesn't have a choice in the matter. Basically, his boss has told him "Ummm, yeah, I am going to need you to come in on Saturday...." So basically he can quit, or show up to work on Saturday. If he has any desire to get back on the USMNT ever, he'll show up to work on Saturday and do his best.

Professional? yeah right...

jpo2269: "HideAndGoFarkYourself 2011-11-23 07:08:51 PM

InOmnibusCaritas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: I disagree. Just like Eli, he should have a say in where he lives and works, right? I don't see how professional sports is any different than any other job. If I'm offered two jobs at the same time, I've got the right to choose which one fits me professionally, personally and is going to be the best fit for my family. Why should Brian Ching be any different? He shouldn't. If he doesn't want to play for Montreal, doesn't want to move out of the country (a valid reason IMO), then he should be able to retire without people thinking anything of it. Furthermore, I think that players who are drafted by a team they don't want to play for should have a way out, and should be able to pay a fee or something along those lines, and become a free agent.

And if you enlist for Military service, should you be able to tell them that you'd prefer to man the lines in Southern California instead of Afghanistan? Part of the job... deal with it or go work in an office somewhere you want to live.

Apples/Oranges. And quite frankly, a stupid comparison

He signed a contract with Houston, he's got the right to retire without penalty. His contact doesn't say that he's required to leave the country to go play somewhere else.

If I sign a contract with the military, I can't just leave without penalty. Furthermore, if I sign a contract with the army, they can't just trade me to the Air Force, nor can they require that I go join Canada's army.

You really don't think that was anywhere close to similar do you?"

Actually, his contract is with MLS, so no he really doesn't have a choice in the matter. Basically, his boss has told him "Ummm, yeah, I am going to need you to come in on Saturday...." So basically he can quit, or show up to work on Saturday. If he has any desire to get back on the USMNT ever, he'll show up to work on Saturday and do his best.

Professional? yeah right...

Actually he can go to Canada, rundown the organization, city, and people before scoring a goal on his own team. There's a whole big world of "can do" out there. Something many employers should consider when dealing with employees.

MLS is expanding waaaaay too fast.

How much does he make in the MLS? 6 figures? I'm sure he can afford to rent a nice condo in downtown Montreal for a few months and have his family stay in Houston. Does it suck to be so far away? Sure...but to make 6 figures for another few years it's still a pretty good deal.

Even though I am no fan of Quebec, Montreal is a pretty fun city...

fark Montreal and fark the Ultras. Stampede 4 Life.

Soccer players? Bunch of whiny biatches.

DrSieb: How much does he make in the MLS? 6 figures? I'm sure he can afford to rent a nice condo in downtown Montreal for a few months and have his family stay in Houston. Does it suck to be so far away? Sure...but to make 6 figures for another few years it's still a pretty good deal.

Even though I am no fan of Quebec, Montreal is a pretty fun city...

Few months? MLS season runs March to November. Try again.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Fizpez: Professional athletes enjoy the benefits of a professional league and the money that goes with that league. The league exists to make money and the players share (sometimes more, sometimes less) in that. What some of these players can not seem to grasp is that a league where all the best players decide they ONLY want to play for team X, Y or Z eventually leads to a league that only contains team X, Y and Z and there's a HELL of a lot less money in a 3 team league than a 20 or 30 team league.

He has the right to retire, fine do so. He does not have the right to dictate terms for any legal trade/draft that the league determines will result in a wider fan base and more income to the league.

La Liga, Serie A, and the EPL would like to disagree. Seriously, for the most part those leagues are ruled by 3-4 teams each, with most of the best players....not just in the league, but the world. Those leagues do just fine.

None of these three leagues have a draft system. In fact, I'm pretty sure MLS is the only soccer league in the entire world with a draft system.