2 Illinois GOP state legislators go have long been full retard

Edited for accuracy

You can do this right after we form the Great State of Jefferson.

Why do politicians propose things could never ever pass in a million years?

ArkAngel: They're not actually being serious, they're trying to make a point. It's the same point people who live in New York State make about NYC - the single city completely dominates politics, leaving the rest of the state out in the cold.

They are tying to make that point, but the point fails. They are ignoring that a democracy is based on population. And Chicago, like NYC, has the lion's share of the population. (as well as the state's gross domestic product.)

Bukharin: They are tying to make that point, but the point fails. They are ignoring that a democracy is based on population. And Chicago, like NYC, has the lion's share of the population. (as well as the state's gross domestic product.)

This happens on a local level too - in my own county, the rural parts are constantly biatching that it's unfair for the main city in it to have "too much say" given that "98% of the county is rural."

Well, gee, we don't apportion the vote by LAND AREA.

/at least we haven't since 1970
//they're still butthurt over it

pfffffft

They're late to the 'full retard' secession party.

The Democrat Party chairman for Pima County is so fed up with Arizona's conservative politics
that he wants the county to secede and form a 51st state in southern Arizona. <sub>(new window)



 

/it's not fascism when they do it</sub>

some.old.lady.: Diogenes: I don't know who's going to put the extra star on all those flags, but leave me out of it!

Man, if the symmetry of the stars gets screwed up, I don't know if I could handle it. I wouldn't be able to look at it.

Not a problem.

Snarfangel: www.crwflags.com

Wow, that's pretty creative.

Meh... they're just trying to fulfill Obama's dream of having 57 states.

Approves from the grave.

Will they call their new state "Corruption"?

Diogenes: I don't know who's going to put the extra star on all those flags, but leave me out of it!

The same people who put all the stars on the flag.

The chinese.

AirForceVet: PreMortem: "Section. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

What? You expect Republicans to actually read the US Constitution?

They're strict Constitutionalists... except for the parts they don't like.

downstairs: AirForceVet: PreMortem: "Section. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

What? You expect Republicans to actually read the US Constitution?

Ok, the plan is stupid... but the snippet of the constitution you posted spells out a way it could happen. The IL State Legislature would have to approve it, then the US Congress.

Neither are going to happen, and the idea is stupid. But, still, not sure what your point is?

Actually that is only if two states wish to merge. One state splitting from another appears to be prohibited. Hmmm, but what about West Virginia...?

If Illinois gets away with this, then I want to see California split up into 20 different States. I'm sick of California (37,253,956) getting the same number of Senators as Wyoming (563,626), and these smaller states getting so many ear marks and special deals because of that fact. States like California are essentially funding this states because of the flow of federal dollars.

Actually, what I'd really like to see is for California to become its own country. Instead of wasting all our money on Defense and funding podunk states in the middle of nowhere like Wyoming, we could spend our budget on infrastructure and education the way we want to.

Repeat from 1925? (new window)

I'm not familiar enough on Illinois politics to comment on the merits of breaking Chicago away from the rest of the state.

However good luck getting Congress to go along with it. Currently congress is so obscenely polarized we can barely agree to not default on the national debt. Do you honestly think we can agree to admit a new state, especially one that will be overwhelmingly Democratic, into the union?

So we will have the states of Cook and North Mississippi.

They are as serious about this as Palin was about running for president, or Gingrich is about limiting himself to three wives and two chins.

Exception Collection: There's been a quiet movement to split NW Oregon off and form a new state. Sometimes just the corner with Portland.

I'd be OK with that as long as Eugene went with Portland.

The same problem occurs in Oregon and Washington. The politics are completely different when you cross the cascades. I'm ok keeping the two states but can we move the border so it goes north/south along those small hills rather than east/west?

State Representatives Bill Mitchell of Forsyth and Adam Brown of Decatur have proposed separating Cook County from Illinois and creating a 51st state.

Small problem with this plan for their side. It would guarantee two democratic senators from Chigaco for the possibility of two republicans from the rest of the state. Also, Chicago would take most of congressional votes with them, with the rest of the state probably being gerrymandered in a few years to get a few democrat congressmen as well. Damn RINO's.

Non-evil Monkey: I'm not familiar enough on Illinois politics to comment on the merits of breaking Chicago away from the rest of the state.

However good luck getting Congress to go along with it. Currently congress is so obscenely polarized we can barely agree to not default on the national debt. Do you honestly think we can agree to admit a new state, especially one that will be overwhelmingly Democratic, into the union?

That was part of the runup to the last Civil War. I guess we're about do. Actually, it seems pretty obvious we're about do. We all remember how it turned out for the rednecks last time around.

As a long time Chicagoan I say: Do it! Do it you sissies!

spiderpaz: Actually, what I'd really like to see is for California to become its own country. Instead of wasting all our money on Defense and funding podunk states in the middle of nowhere like Wyoming, we could spend our budget on infrastructure and education the way we want to.

The NCR is coming, just wait.