Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

Exactly.

It's Obama's fault the bailouts happened before he was elected to office or served his first day as POTUS.

/October 3, 2008

Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

Hehe ok this is pretty good. You really had me going for the first half of that sentence

700 billion is too big for folks to wrap their heads around. It's pie in the sky.

But 13 million is real money. Money right from their city.

FTA:

The spending comes as cash-strapped police departments have cut overtime budgets, travel and training to respond to the recession.

As a guy who works for a municipality, let me tell you, if there's one department that does not have a problem with getting additional cash from city governments, it's police.

Well, this a strange territory. I agree with the OWS crowd. We should have never bailed out the bad players on Wall Street.

You would think that since the right is so concerned with excessive governmental powers and individual freedom that they would be more concerned about the continued overreaction and police brutality.... oh never mind. I'm not even gonna bother finishing that

Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

You'd think that might have railed about them when GW signed off on them...

hubiestubert: Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

You'd think that might have railed about them when GW signed off on them...

That would have been unpatriotic! They would have been akin to TREASON!

GaryPDX: Well, this a strange territory. I agree with the OWS crowd. We should have never bailed out the bad players on Wall Street.

Bailing them out is one thing. Bailing them out with no conditions was a monumental screw up.

How about "we will bail you banks out, but you have to loan money to small businesses and such instead of basically sitting on all the cash once you are solvent?"

Think of the businesses and jobs that could have been created.

Failure by both the Bush and Obama administrations, that was.

GaryPDX: Well, this a strange territory. I agree with the OWS crowd. We should have never bailed out the bad players on Wall Street.

If the government did not do TARP, or something like it, you would finally be able to use all of that freeze dried food you have been storing in your bombshelter. The financial system would have seized.

hubiestubert: Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

You'd think that might have railed about them when GW signed off on them...

There was plenty of railing, myself included. Remember, it was a Democrat controlled Congress that were falling over themselves to pass TARP.

GaryPDX: There was plenty of railing, myself included. Remember, it was a Democrat controlled Congress that were falling over themselves to pass TARP.

At the time, did Republicans support TARP? I don't remember . . .

BritneysSpeculum: The financial system would have seized.

Yep, just long enough to flush the bad actors. And then it would have restarted. But instead we have all the same players carrying on the game.

I'll just leave this here. (new window)

SphericalTime: GaryPDX: There was plenty of railing, myself included. Remember, it was a Democrat controlled Congress that were falling over themselves to pass TARP.

At the time, did Republicans support TARP? I don't remember . . .

Some did..quite a few didn't. Every Conservative I know was against it.

GaryPDX: BritneysSpeculum: The financial system would have seized.

Yep, just long enough to flush the bad actors. And then it would have restarted. But instead we have all the same players carrying on the game.

By what evidence do you say this? Blind faith would be my guess.

One has nothing to do with the other.

GaryPDX: Some did..quite a few didn't. Every Conservative I know was against it.

That's some fine anecdotal evidence you have there, Lou.

SkinnyHead: One has nothing to do with the other.

Really. A protest of the excesses of a Wall Street that we bailed out has nothing to do with the Wall Street bailouts?

Oh, please do explain!

cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: BritneysSpeculum: The financial system would have seized.

Yep, just long enough to flush the bad actors. And then it would have restarted. But instead we have all the same players carrying on the game.

By what evidence do you say this? Blind faith would be my guess.

That's how Capitalism works Cameron. Sometimes it has to clean up after itself and flush the bad players. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in Capitalism.

GaryPDX: That's how Capitalism works Cameron. Sometimes it has to clean up after itself and flush the bad players. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in Capitalism.

Well, apparently it doesn't work that way, as we bailed out Wall Street and thus avoided a worldwide catastrophe. I think you're just mad you didn't get to use your bunker.

GaryPDX: hubiestubert: Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

You'd think that might have railed about them when GW signed off on them...

There was plenty of railing, myself included. Remember, it was a Democrat controlled Congress that were falling over themselves to pass TARP.

You are attempting to modify the noun "Congress." Thus you are supposed to use the adjectival, which is "democratic." Unless, of course, you want to look like an illiterate, in which case, "Mission Accomplished."

BritneysSpeculum: You are attempting to modify the noun "Congress." Thus you are supposed to use the adjectival, which is "democratic." Unless, of course, you want to look like an illiterate, in which case, "Mission Accomplished."

If you've read Gary's posts, you already know that Gary is an illiterate.

That's how Capitalism works Cameron. Sometimes it has to clean up after itself and flush the bad players. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in Capitalism.,

Which is true and irrelevant, because we didn't have capitalism as evidenced by the fact that firms had sufficient sway in government to artificially manipulate markets.

The right thing to do would have been bail them out, restructure them, remove the systemic issues, jail the criminals, and then get the money paid back and pee on skinnyhead.

We did that with the exception of jailing the criminals and addressing the systemic issues which is why we're going to have another crisis.

I added the pee on skinnyhead bit for fun, but I think it's something we can still get behind as rider item

SkinnyHead: One has nothing to do with the other.

But it's hilarious that "conservatives" whine about $13M, but are fine with Wall Street playing fast and loose with other peoples money and taking high-risk gambles knowing that they will get rich(er) whether they beat the odds or lose all our money.

The outrage over the one and the silence - or vocal support - of the other is indicative of just how twisted these fkrs are.

In before he wargarb... oh.

birchman: hubiestubert: Codenamechaz: Uh...subby?

Conservatives have been railing on the bailout since the day Obama first entered office.

You'd think that might have railed about them when GW signed off on them...

I'm pretty sure [thatsthejoke.jpg] unless Poe's Law is in effect.

Hey, someone has to play the straightman around here...

If OWS was really an anti-bailout movement, then it would have more support. However, that does not appear to be the case. There's lots of commie/socialists bullshiat at the core of OWS. There is a lot of "Obama isn't far left enough" sentiment. So everyone that doesn't want the country to adopt more of the lib agenda is naturally going to be opposed to most of OWS's goals, even if they were also opposed to the bailouts.

Also, camping out where you're not supposed to is highly unlikely to change anything regarding the bailouts. If OWS wants to be effective, then they need to find and support candidates opposed to gov't bailouts and drop all of the commie bs - and you still have to pay your student loans.

hubiestubert: Hey, someone has to play the straightman around here...

I thought that's what Marcus Bachman was for.

Oh, wait...

cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: That's how Capitalism works Cameron. Sometimes it has to clean up after itself and flush the bad players. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in Capitalism.

Well, apparently it doesn't work that way, as we bailed out Wall Street and thus avoided a worldwide catastrophe. I think you're just mad you didn't get to use your bunker.

Cameron, I know you're a Fabian Socialist. You've admitted it before. How is that working out for Europe? Last time I checked they are circling the drain. The path we're on is right behind them. What's going on now is not Capitalism and it is failing like a MOFO.

I'd rather not.

MeinRS6: If OWS was really an anti-bailout movement, then it would have more support

That is the most retarded pseudo-logical statement I have ever heard.

Not if you guys will excuse me, I'm off to practice some Capitalism. Gotta keep paying the mortgage.

cameroncrazy1984: That is the most retarded pseudo-logical statement I have ever heard.

consider the source.

MeinRS6: If OWS was really an anti-bailout movement, then it would have more support. However, that does not appear to be the case. There's lots of commie/socialists bullshiat at the core of OWS. There is a lot of "Obama isn't far left enough" sentiment. So everyone that doesn't want the country to adopt more of the lib agenda is naturally going to be opposed to most of OWS's goals, even if they were also opposed to the bailouts.

Also, camping out where you're not supposed to is highly unlikely to change anything regarding the bailouts. If OWS wants to be effective, then they need to find and support candidates opposed to gov't bailouts and drop all of the commie bs - and you still have to pay your student loans.

Wow...stereotype much?

GaryPDX: Cameron, I know you're a Fabian Socialist

I don't think you know what Fabian Socialism actually is, Gary. It's a center-left ideology. You seem to think it's full-on Pinko communism.

GaryPDX: How is that working out for Europe?

I don't know, ask Germany with her 1% unemployment rate.

MeinRS6: Also, camping out where you're not supposed to is highly unlikely to change anything

Tell that to black people sitting in Woolworth's in the 50s and 60s.

"We're here fighting corporate greed and they're worried about a lawn?" said Clark Davis of Occupy Los Angeles, where the city estimates that property damage to a park has been $200,000.

Um, you're not "fighting" anything.

vernonFL: "We're here fighting corporate greed and they're worried about a lawn?" said Clark Davis of Occupy Los Angeles, where the city estimates that property damage to a park has been $200,000.

Um, you're not "fighting" anything.

You're one of those guys who thinks that "fighting" only means physical violence, right?

GaryPDX: Not if you guys will excuse me, I'm off to practice some Capitalism. Gotta keep paying the mortgage.

Go ahead, tool. I'm going to smoke pot and not take a shower.

birchman: Oooo, people are calling each other by their real life meat names....things are getting real up in here.

Huh? GaryPDX can be shortened to Gary. That's all I'm doing.

GaryPDX: Well, this a strange territory. I agree with the OWS crowd. We should have never bailed out the bad players on Wall Street.

They paid good money to buy the votes for their money.

GaryPDX: cameroncrazy1984: GaryPDX: BritneysSpeculum: The financial system would have seized.

Yep, just long enough to flush the bad actors. And then it would have restarted. But instead we have all the same players carrying on the game.

By what evidence do you say this? Blind faith would be my guess.

That's how Capitalism works Cameron. Sometimes it has to clean up after itself and flush the bad players. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in Capitalism.

Second time I agree with Gary. They bought their tickets...

Let's try a graph.



You can see that I had to actually put the data label on the OWS protests on account of it being so infinitesimally small compared to the bailout.