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2011-11-23 08:28:57 AM
I'm reserving my opinion until I see if the power plant blows-up on Sunday.
 
2011-11-23 08:29:00 AM
The perp's comments to the article are comedy GOLD!
 
2011-11-23 08:29:45 AM
I have a dollar that says that cell phone is never found.
 
2011-11-23 08:29:51 AM
While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.
 
2011-11-23 08:30:28 AM
What a clusterf*ck.
 
2011-11-23 08:32:26 AM
Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?
 
2011-11-23 08:32:38 AM
FTFA: "Fabrio, of the 3300 block of Hatcher Street in Fort Pierce, was arrested on single counts each of battery on a law enforcement officer, firefighter, EMT, etc. and resisting an officer without violence."

How can you be charged with battery on an officer but not with violently resisting arrest?
 
2011-11-23 08:34:07 AM
StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.
 
2011-11-23 08:35:04 AM
Mad Scientist: The perp's comments to the article are comedy GOLD!

I'm rything in laughter.
 
2011-11-23 08:35:32 AM
foo monkey: Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?

Yeah, no sense, and the comments just add even more confusion on top. How did this become about nuclear safety? I'm thoroughly confused.
 
2011-11-23 08:36:12 AM
Comments from the article:

2 Responses to "Passers-by accused of fighting with deputy making traffic stop in Port St. Lucie"
1.Hoyle Fabrio Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 am
I witnessed an out of control Sheriff's deputy beat a handcuffed man past the point of bloody to the point of rything pain.. I stopped this viscious assault. Peacefully.... & was arrested for it. None of the reports show me as being anyting but courtious & caring.

Please excuse spelling and grammer i am not an english major. Apologies to my teachers if this doesnt read well. and if i missed anything. However this is the info to best of my knowledge. pasted as I posted to facebook.

I wrote this yesterday.. This is the "nuclear backgtroubd story.....

***** Nuclear Power Plant Contractor tells employee to falsify Nuclear Certification Documents!!!

I am a friend of Thomas King (Nuclear certified MOV Valve Technician with over 25 yrs Nuclear experience), He CANNOT write because he is being held Political Prisoner in St. Lucie County.

I understand this story sounds as far fetched as can be but I don't Lie!!!
...
Thomas KING was beaten & arrested on my 40th Birthday for video tape witnessing a road rage station. 99% goes wrong.. (petty little stuff when you read the following)

*****IMPORTANT ****

This happened Hours after attempting to file reports through 911 & St. Lucie County Sheriff's Department, Florida Power $ Light EMPLOYEE SAFETY CONCERNS, The Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and Federal Bureau of investigation.

This report was part of a Whistle Blowers case.... With PROVABLE Claims of

Falsifying Nuclear Documents.
Possible Connection between his employer and missing person "Scott Johnson"

**** F.Y.I. Same employer was primary person of interest in the UN-SOLVED Turkey Point Nuclear Sabotage case

Nov. 2011 Ames corporate exec. requested Thomas King ...sign nuclear certifications dated 2009.

Nov. 2011 Scott William Johnson, 56 a Ft. Pierce man showed up missing hours after expressing concerns about Ames

Group llc. safety-conscious work environment (Ames Group exec's reported him missing after they went to his house and found his id and keys)

********************************************************************* * *******************************************

- Thomas King has been seeking Whistle blower Refuge because of his personal knowledge of:

- "paper parties" where records are "cleaned up"
- Untrained/Uncertified people doing work on critical elements
- Safety Protocols being ignored
- regulated procedures as far as valve and other assemblies not being followed

- Ames has no employee concerns department. Thomas King filed with F.P.L.'s Employee Concerns as well As plant
supervisors. Attempted making claim to N.R.C. but wasnt taken serious. Tried to file with 911 police laughed and left. Later that night Mr. King was arrested and held several against his will... Shouldn't they atleast investigate? He does have over 25 yrs commercial nuclear experience.. He has been a certified Vale Tech for over 15... Is it worth all our lives and environment. no /to atleast investigate? regardless how bizarre nit seems

2.Hoyle Fabrio Says:
November 23rd, 2011 at 3:31 am
p.s. There was a big morning meeting at the plant in which Ames Group llc. Executives scolded the staff. Because in days prior of ten employees questioned by FPL reps. Six didn't know if the reactor they where working next to was live....

What? 6 of 10 Nuc workers aloud next to critical equipment didnt know operating status of the plant... If you doubt me investigate.. They cant all lie
 
2011-11-23 08:36:43 AM
yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.


That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.
 
2011-11-23 08:37:05 AM
After reading the comments at the end of the storey I am wondering WTF???

On the surface it sounds like the guy is a nutcase, but I hope some authority is looking into to this.


Silkwood
 
2011-11-23 08:39:53 AM
MrDon: After reading the comments at the end of the storey I am wondering WTF???

On the surface it sounds like the guy is a nutcase, but I hope some authority is looking into to this.


Silkwood


Maybe they got wind he was going to go public with his info about the shoddy state of the plant, so they did all this just to make him look like a nutcase. You'll know if that's right or not depending on the level of investigating that gets done.
 
2011-11-23 08:40:15 AM
foo monkey: Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?

Only in a 'you had to be there' kind of way.

/you had to be there
 
2011-11-23 08:40:29 AM
www.wearysloth.com

Ummmmm.... yeah. Well, see, here's the thing...... I could tell you what's happening, but I don't know if it would really tell you what's happening. He attacked me. There I am - somehow, there I am - and I couldn't tell you... couldn't tell you how I'm there or who I am or what's going on. But before I can get to that, what's this over here - coming at me? What... what are you trying to do? Oh, I see, you're trying to kill me. Yeah confuse me. I'll tell you about some confusing. How about bingo, there you are. And, whoop, there's my welcoming committee.
 
2011-11-23 08:40:33 AM
Feepit: FTFA: "Fabrio, of the 3300 block of Hatcher Street in Fort Pierce, was arrested on single counts each of battery on a law enforcement officer, firefighter, EMT, etc. and resisting an officer without violence."

How can you be charged with battery on an officer but not with violently resisting arrest?


The battery would be him fighting, swinging, hitting, pushing the officer.

"Resisting" can be either "passive" or "active" but both of those categories might not involve battery.

If the officer was trying to cuff someone, but they were holding on to a street sign and not allowing their hands to be placed behind their back... that would be "resisting an officer without violence."

At least that's how I interpret it (having not one lick of knowledge of Florida law).
 
2011-11-23 08:41:15 AM
FTA: The deputy "escorted" King to the ground.
HMMMM
www.tcoasttalk.com

This is the new PC term for: "slammed face down on the ground"
 
2011-11-23 08:44:07 AM
FredaDeStilleto: I'm reserving my opinion until I see if the power plant blows-up on Sunday.

As long as it is Sunday. Have to go to the girlfriends parents house down there for thanksgiving but I'll be gone by then
 
2011-11-23 08:45:33 AM
Feepit: FTFA: "Fabrio, of the 3300 block of Hatcher Street in Fort Pierce, was arrested on single counts each of battery on a law enforcement officer, firefighter, EMT, etc. and resisting an officer without violence."

How can you be charged with battery on an officer but not with violently resisting arrest?


However, as I re-read it, the person was charged with two crimes, one count of "battery on a law enforcement officer, firefighter, EMT, etc." and one count of "resisting an officer without violence."

The battery charge comes from the guy spitting on the EMT. The resisting has to do with the officer.
 
2011-11-23 08:50:02 AM
HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.


I know, but then they have a big problem with you are held against your will with no charges or anything.
 
2011-11-23 08:50:28 AM
cbackous: FTA: The deputy "escorted" King to the ground.
HMMMM
[www.tcoasttalk.com image 160x243]

This is the new PC term for: "slammed face down on the ground"


It isn't "new"... it's been around for a long time.

See also: "The suspects injuries were a consequence of his actions."
 
2011-11-23 08:53:52 AM
foo monkey: Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?

This. True I have only been awake about an hour, but this article was too much of a headache to start my day with.
 
2011-11-23 08:59:37 AM
Slaxl: foo monkey: Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?

Yeah, no sense, and the comments just add even more confusion on top. How did this become about nuclear safety? I'm thoroughly confused.


Schizophrenia is a wonderful thing. Dude needs less jail and more doctor.
 
2011-11-23 09:01:05 AM
We've got a live one here. Call UC Davis for backup.
 
2011-11-23 09:02:57 AM
yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.

I know, but then they have a big problem with you are held against your will with no charges or anything.


It's not a big problem for them at all. The judge tells you to go home and you likely have to pay a court fee, and nothing happens to the cop.
 
2011-11-23 09:06:44 AM
hillary: Ummmmm.... yeah. Well, see, here's the thing...... I could tell you what's happening, but I don't know if it would really tell you what's happening. He attacked me. There I am - somehow, there I am - and I couldn't tell you... couldn't tell you how I'm there or who I am or what's going on. But before I can get to that, what's this over here - coming at me? What... what are you trying to do? Oh, I see, you're trying to kill me. Yeah confuse me. I'll tell you about some confusing. How about bingo, there you are. And, whoop, there's my welcoming committee.

Hearty LOLS
 
2011-11-23 09:09:31 AM
Now that these nuts are finished with OWS they now need to Occupy The Asylums.
 
2011-11-23 09:14:25 AM
"The deputy told King to get out of the road a number of times"

This gets you a warning that you are going to be arrested. If you don't leave the scene they will probably take the cuffs off after you calm down a bit a agree to leave.

"The deputy told King to put his hands behind his back, and he pulled away"

Yeah, now the cuffs are going on for good regardless of what it takes to get them on.
 
2011-11-23 09:14:44 AM
HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.

I know, but then they have a big problem with you are held against your will with no charges or anything.

It's not a big problem for them at all. The judge tells you to go home and you likely have to pay a court fee, and nothing happens to the cop.


I know... BUt theres a movement down here where we, the public, are kicking the cops asses. Took away their all mighty pention plan not to long ago. Now we are planning, thanks to a really good city councle, firing their asses and bringing in someone else.
 
2011-11-23 09:22:00 AM
howdyyall9999: "The deputy told King to get out of the road a number of times"

This gets you a warning that you are going to be arrested. If you don't leave the scene they will probably take the cuffs off after you calm down a bit a agree to leave.

"The deputy told King to put his hands behind his back, and he pulled away"

Yeah, now the cuffs are going on for good regardless of what it takes to get them on.


Thank you.

As far as I can tell from the article, the cop did nothing wrong... this bozo just ended up paying his "idiot tax."
 
2011-11-23 09:30:07 AM
What language was that article written in? Are they hiring elementary school kids as writers now?
 
2011-11-23 09:30:30 AM
Wait, the point of the traffic stop was that the deputy saw the guy on the motorcycle "start to hit" a car with his hand? Did the deputy leap from his squad car and stop the man's hand before it made contact, like the angel stopping Abraham from killing his son?
 
2011-11-23 09:51:15 AM
Nick Nostril: What language was that article written in? Are they hiring elementary school kids as writers now?

Reading this 'article' I was hearing the voice of a 5th grader w/really bad ADHD trying to explain to his teacher why he didn't do his homework.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2011-11-23 09:54:35 AM
yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.


It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)
 
2011-11-23 10:00:54 AM
vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)


I think the way around it is if its in a public place, you have no say in the matter. Cause the idea of, I was just filming and I saw this happening can be played. Talked to my brother about this too, you can tape in a public setting down here.
 
2011-11-23 10:04:04 AM
foo monkey: Am I hungover or does that article make no sense. Ok I'm hungover, but it makes no sense, right?

100% correct.

/hungover too
 
2011-11-23 10:09:58 AM
Evil-Imposter: Nick Nostril: What language was that article written in? Are they hiring elementary school kids as writers now?

Reading this 'article' I was hearing the voice of a 5th grader w/really bad ADHD trying to explain to his teacher why he didn't do his homework.


Glad to know I wasn't the only one that had that reaction. Would not read again on decaf.
 
2011-11-23 10:20:28 AM
vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)


That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).
 
2011-11-23 10:38:49 AM
Cops should be recorded anytime they are working and they should always assume that they are. Attempts by cops to prevent being recorded by citizens ought to be illegal and doing so ought to result in the cop losing his badge and going away for a very long prison sentence similar to a sentence for public corruption, taking bribes, etc.
 
2011-11-23 10:50:26 AM
yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.

I know, but then they have a big problem with you are held against your will with no charges or anything.

It's not a big problem for them at all. The judge tells you to go home and you likely have to pay a court fee, and nothing happens to the cop.

I know... BUt theres a movement down here where we, the public, are kicking the cops asses. Took away their all mighty pention plan not to long ago. Now we are planning, thanks to a really good city councle, firing their asses and bringing in someone else.


Is this in English?
 
2011-11-23 10:59:38 AM
gshepnyc: Cops should be recorded anytime they are working and they should always assume that they are. Attempts by cops to prevent being recorded by citizens ought to be illegal and doing so ought to result in the cop losing his badge and going away for a very long prison sentence similar to a sentence for public corruption, taking bribes, etc.

Problem with that is... cops have to much power to begin with and they dont go to prison for anything. Cop can be an ass to me but if I am an ass back. I am thrown into the squad car for assult (with no actual punches thorwn).
 
2011-11-23 11:14:01 AM
Unshavenhelga: yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: HotWingConspiracy: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

That has never stopped a cop from arresting anyone.

I know, but then they have a big problem with you are held against your will with no charges or anything.

It's not a big problem for them at all. The judge tells you to go home and you likely have to pay a court fee, and nothing happens to the cop.

I know... BUt theres a movement down here where we, the public, are kicking the cops asses. Took away their all mighty pention plan not to long ago. Now we are planning, thanks to a really good city councle, firing their asses and bringing in someone else.

Is this in English?


Yes, its English... Before I had any coffee this morning. So I am currently still out of it. I am not a morning person. And to many years playing MMO's have killed my English skills. Forgive me if I tend to not care about grammer or spelling in the morning. I happen to be a lot better at night when it comes to thinking.

And I have a bad habit of writing the way I speak. So sorry in advance for not translating what I typed for you.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2011-11-23 11:28:59 AM
NtropiK: vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)

That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).


Nope. "wire, oral, or electronic communication". Nothing about who owns the property you are standing on.
 
2011-11-23 11:43:21 AM
Feepit: FTFA: "Fabrio, of the 3300 block of Hatcher Street in Fort Pierce, was arrested on single counts each of battery on a law enforcement officer, firefighter, EMT, etc. and resisting an officer without violence."

How can you be charged with battery on an officer but not with violently resisting arrest?


Probably by first touching the cop ("battery"), then by going limp or trying to get away or doing anything else the cop doesn't like without touching him with anything. Or vice versa.

I haven't heard of resisting with violence and without being two separate charges before. Is that common?
 
2011-11-23 11:48:44 AM
david1963: I haven't heard of resisting with violence and without being two separate charges before. Is that common?

Yes, it says he pulled away and then fought when he was on the ground.
 
2011-11-23 11:51:48 AM
vpb: NtropiK: vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)

That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).

Nope. "wire, oral, or electronic communication". Nothing about who owns the property you are standing on.


But it doesnt say video. Which isnt oral in a way. Its all in the wording. Video is seen defferently from oral. which would be me using a tabe recorder to record a conversation you and I were having. Not filming it.
 
2011-11-23 11:56:07 AM
yves0010: vpb: NtropiK: vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)

That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).

Nope. "wire, oral, or electronic communication". Nothing about who owns the property you are standing on.

But it doesnt say video. Which isnt oral in a way. Its all in the wording. Video is seen defferently from oral. which would be me using a tabe tape recorder to record a conversation you and I were having. Not filming it.


sigh... proof reading to many conversations right now.
 
2011-11-23 11:59:34 AM
yves0010: vpb: NtropiK: vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)

That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).

Nope. "wire, oral, or electronic communication". Nothing about who owns the property you are standing on.

But it doesnt say video. Which isnt oral in a way. Its all in the wording. Video is seen defferently from oral. which would be me using a tabe recorder to record a conversation you and I were having. Not filming it.


As a tech n00b, can you record video without sound on a cell phone? Mine doesn't do video, only stills, so I can't test.

I need more coffee. I swear I have a brain around someplace, once I'm wide awake maybe I'll find it.
 
2011-11-23 12:02:39 PM
david1963: yves0010: vpb: NtropiK: vpb: yves0010: StrangeQ: While I support the guy's message (don't trust the police) he also sounds like a complete nutjob and was standing in the middle of the road.

Thats what I was thinking. And in Florida, you can legally tape the police. There is no law in the books that say you can not.

So the idiot could of just stood there, taped the entire thing and, if something went down, had proof of what happened.

It is a felony. I imagine this guy got into trouble by taking seriously an internet post from someone who has no idea what he is talking about(like this one).

Link (new window)

That link is just for recording cellphone conversations. It is perfectly legal to record police activity on public property (in this case, a street).

Nope. "wire, oral, or electronic communication". Nothing about who owns the property you are standing on.

But it doesnt say video. Which isnt oral in a way. Its all in the wording. Video is seen defferently from oral. which would be me using a tabe recorder to record a conversation you and I were having. Not filming it.

As a tech n00b, can you record video without sound on a cell phone? Mine doesn't do video, only stills, so I can't test.

I need more coffee. I swear I have a brain around someplace, once I'm wide awake maybe I'll find it.


You can recold video with sound only. But like I said, it is all in the wording of the law. If it does not establish video, then filming someone with / without sound is still legal. It's a loop hole in the law. Most likely there are ways to film without sound.
 
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