No shiat, Sherlock.

Democrats dont want to cut services, and Republicans dont want to raise certain taxes. No one can compromise.

This farce will be the end of us.

...so vote Republican.

Yeah both sides are totally bad. That's why I only get my political opinions from south park because I'm totally superior to all those people who actually care about facts and stuff. I mean, turd sandwich right? Let's go get a miller light, bro.

So stop voting for Democrats AND Republicans.

violentsalvation: So stop voting for Democrats AND Republicans.

I, for one, welcome our Lizard People overlords.

Ross Perot is still alive, isn't he? Perhaps he may be our last hope.

7of7: Yeah both sides are totally bad. That's why I only get my political opinions from south park because I'm totally superior to all those people who actually care about facts and stuff. I mean, turd sandwich right? Let's go get a miller light, bro.

Remind me again, who proposed the "compromise" of cutting all deductions in exchange for a small tax increase on the rich? Which side demanded we privatize Medicare? Which side thinks wants the Bush tax cuts renewed?

Goddammit, if we had a liberal media, people would actually know these.

GAT_00: Remind me again, who proposed the "compromise" of cutting all deductions in exchange for a small tax increase on the rich? Which side demanded we privatize Medicare? Which side thinks wants the Bush tax cuts renewed?

Goddammit, if we had a liberal media, people would actually know these.

cman: No shiat, Sherlock.

Democrats dont want to cut services, and Republicans dont want to raise certain taxes. No one can compromise.

This farce will be the end of us.

You also realize a failure to compromise will reduce the deficit by $6T over the next 10 years, right? No Supercommittee deal plus a failure to renew the Bush tax cuts is able to reduce almost all the debt that Bush accumulated and Republicans didn't give a fark about until the scary man took office.

But I'm sure you also think renewing the Bush tax cuts, removing all deductions and privatizing Medicare in exchange for $250B in new taxes for the rich is an equal exchange - what the Republicans thought was a compromise.

GAT_00: cman: No shiat, Sherlock.

Democrats dont want to cut services, and Republicans dont want to raise certain taxes. No one can compromise.

This farce will be the end of us.

You also realize a failure to compromise will reduce the deficit by $6T over the next 10 years, right? No Supercommittee deal plus a failure to renew the Bush tax cuts is able to reduce almost all the debt that Bush accumulated and Republicans didn't give a fark about until the scary man took office.

But I'm sure you also think renewing the Bush tax cuts, removing all deductions and privatizing Medicare in exchange for $250B in new taxes for the rich is an equal exchange - what the Republicans thought was a compromise.

I am all for letting the Bush tax cuts expire. Its called "compromise", something that is lost upon the current generation of people in Washington.

Compromising is not about making everybody happy, it is about making sure that everybody is equally miserable.

cman: I am all for letting the Bush tax cuts expire. Its called "compromise", something that is lost upon the current generation of people in Washington.

You mean the current generation of Republicans.

cman: Its called "compromise"

Compromise renews the Bush tax cuts. I'm all for massive partisanship that keeps them dead.

I love the word 'feckless'. I so rarely have the opportunity to use it in a sentence.

/Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?

The modern GOP is the greatest threat this country has ever faced.

CayceP: I love the word 'feckless'. I so rarely have the opportunity to use it in a sentence.

/Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?

Oh go crucify yourself.

Ladies and Gentleman, the next President of these United States of America. (new window)

NewportBarGuy: Ladies and Gentleman, the next President of these United States of America. (new window)

We already tried having a learning disabled president, and all we have to show for it is this lousy Iraq.

cman: GAT_00: cman: No shiat, Sherlock.

Democrats dont want to cut services, and Republicans dont want to raise certain taxes. No one can compromise.

This farce will be the end of us.

You also realize a failure to compromise will reduce the deficit by $6T over the next 10 years, right? No Supercommittee deal plus a failure to renew the Bush tax cuts is able to reduce almost all the debt that Bush accumulated and Republicans didn't give a fark about until the scary man took office.

But I'm sure you also think renewing the Bush tax cuts, removing all deductions and privatizing Medicare in exchange for $250B in new taxes for the rich is an equal exchange - what the Republicans thought was a compromise.

I am all for letting the Bush tax cuts expire. Its called "compromise", something that is lost upon the current generation of people in Washington.

Compromising is not about making everybody happy, it is about making sure that everybody is equally miserable.

They believe that they are acting on their core values, all of them. They (honestly, I think) believe that they cannot compromise without compromising the values that they hold most dear. They really do believe that any kind of quid pro quo is dealing with the devil.

NewportBarGuy: Ladies and Gentleman, the next President of these United States of America. (new window)

Well he sure sounds like a winner.

TofuTheAlmighty: cman: Democrats dont want to cut services, and Republicans dont want to raise certain taxes. No one can compromise.

Wat? Congressional Democrats were angling to cut trillions, including slashing spending on the two most popular programs (SS and Medicare). But they wanted a trillion in revenue as well and Republicans told them to pound sand.

Dems have been knuckling under for decades while Republicans incessantly ratchet down rich people's tax rates. Claiming that 'no one can compromise' at this point is worse than willful ignorance.

Technically, I am correct.

Democrats dont compromise, they capitulate.

/Semantics

GAT_00: CayceP: I love the word 'feckless'. I so rarely have the opportunity to use it in a sentence.

/Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?

Oh go crucify yourself.

I don't remember that line from West Wing.

CayceP: GAT_00: CayceP: I love the word 'feckless'. I so rarely have the opportunity to use it in a sentence.

/Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?

Oh go crucify yourself.

I don't remember that line from West Wing.

It's right after your line. He just says it in Latin.

NewportBarGuy: Ladies and Gentleman, the next President of these United States of America. (new window)

He would make a great running mate for Rick Perry.

GAT_00: It's right after your line. He just says it in Latin.

Hah! So he does :) I just found the clip again. Thanks, GAT_00!

Americans blame the failure of the debt "super committee" on everyone involved, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Tuesday, despite the best efforts of Democrats and Republicans to point fingers at each other.

Dear Congress: Any American who has more than two children, or who has ever dealt with a classroom in any capacity, knows exactly the game you are playing, and we're not buying it for a second. "Uh-uh, YOU did it!" doesn't fly past the age of two.

Now get to work and act like grownups, or we the American public will be happy to send in a squadron of nuns with rulers to teach you how.

Or karate instructors with shinais if you'd prefer things be less sectarian.

IlGreven: Gyrfalcon: Americans blame the failure of the debt "super committee" on everyone involved, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Tuesday, despite the best efforts of Democrats and Republicans to point fingers at each other.

Dear Congress: Any American who has more than two children, or who has ever dealt with a classroom in any capacity, knows exactly the game you are playing, and we're not buying it for a second. "Uh-uh, YOU did it!" doesn't fly past the age of two.

Now get to work and act like grownups, or we the American public will be happy to send in a squadron of nuns with rulers to teach you how.

Or karate instructors with shinais if you'd prefer things be less sectarian.

...really? Americans voted in this sorry bunch. They don't know their ass from their elbow. If they did, there would be a viable third party by now.

I'm more into sublethal violence at this point. Those bastards need a beatdown in the worst possible way.

Besides, a 3d-party President will be mostly a futile gesture unless there is a 3d-party in Congress to back him up and break deadlocks.

I agree with Marceaux about the measuring of the waist. I think I'm in the undecided group.

Tryfan: Both sides are bad. One side is a lot worse. Not voting for the 'lesser evil' makes the 'a lot worse' side stronger.

You have to pick your fights. Withholding votes from the Democrats right now is just begging for giving the Republitards another chance to screw things up even more royally than they already have. Work to change the party from within if you want it further left, it has happened before.

Not voting for the Democrats means that whoever votes for the Republicans wins by default. Remember, the MOST VOTES WINS. Anyone who piously sits on their hands and declares, well, both sides are bad so I'm not voting for anyone essentially gives the election to whichever thug manages to pull more of his voters into the booth. Traditionally and statistically, that has been the Republican party, especially during national and closely contested elections.

But if you feel you must keep your soul pure, bear in mind that in the 2000 election, Bush and Gore BETWEEN them garnered only 101 million popular votes, and one reason for the electoral imbalance was the swing states where the popular margin was less than 5%. Had a few more people shaken off their apathy, or dropped that tired idea that "Both sides are bad so why vote", Gore might have had a decisive electoral victory before Florida became an issue. If you don't like an election result, and your vote was going to have been in opposition to the winner; then STFU if you didn't do what you could to defeat it.