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(Some Guy) Interesting Here's how to save the NBA: All starting fives must include an Elvis impersonator on stilts. Or, well, this other plan   (scholarsandrogues.com) divider line 18
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2011-11-22 04:39:12 PM
Slamball.
 
2011-11-22 04:47:37 PM
He's wrong about small markets not making it far being good. It hurts in the long run if small markets don't do good enough to get a fanbase going.
 
2011-11-22 04:53:43 PM
tldr.

I'm guessing it has something to do with strippers and coke?
 
2011-11-22 04:56:59 PM
Donkeys.
 
2011-11-22 05:02:12 PM
Scrap the union, reunionize and buy out the ABA, and to hell with the NBA. Same crowds will root for the same players. Let the players' union own the league and hire the GMs themselves. For the first year, no trades -- every player stays in the same market they're in now.

If the owners would rather ditch the revenue than let them play in the same arenas, go to smaller venues, with much lower ticket prices, and increase the odds of selling out the games that first year.

Also, bring back the rainbow ball. It makes jump shots look so much better.

If the owners wise up and want back in, let them come back as investors. Any union that seeks to prolong a confrontational relationship with management instead of seeking to become management is a bad union.
 
2011-11-22 05:03:54 PM
Fan bases arent dedicated to the teams here the way they are in european soccer. The second division teams that get stuck in the middle of that division would never survive financially.
 
2011-11-22 05:13:07 PM
Constrict the number of teams until all teams have a minimum supporting populace then revenue share amongst all teams.


Then make the owners of the Suns sell.

Oh and make sure your star player isn't a high multiple of all the other players' salaries combined.

Then make the owners of the Suns sell
 
2011-11-22 05:18:47 PM
mrmyxolodian: tldr.

Word Count: 1,331


American education working as intended.
 
2011-11-22 05:19:33 PM
If you cut the owners out by having the union own the teams, revenue-sharing means all teams would have about twice the payroll budget they have now. The league can afford to put a team in McCool Junction, Nebraska, if the league wants. There's plenty of money.

A team in a small market just can't compete with LA, etc, on its own. But it wouldn't need to. Nowadays, the owners need the players a hundred times more than the players need the owners. Fark the owners.
 
2011-11-22 05:56:42 PM
RandomAxe: Fark the owners.

As much as I can't stand some of the personalities of NBA players, THIS!

But I do like the idea of relegation and promotion, however I wonder how the 2nd or 3rd tier teams would do if they were situated in or near cities with popular college basketball programs that actually have a shot at the D-I NCAA tourney.
 
2011-11-22 06:17:45 PM
I actually like this proposal. Teams/Organizations switching between Divisions based on performance; players migrating between divisions base on demand.

It may be a great experiment. Better some basketball than no basketball.
 
2011-11-22 07:08:36 PM
this would definitely not work. why not just have a soft cap with a luxury tax, like baseball? that allows the big market teams to go a little overboard and helps the small markets' bottom lines.
 
2011-11-22 09:04:32 PM
STOP F*CKING TRYING TO IMPLEMENT RELEGATION/PROMOTION. IT IS A STUPID SYSTEM.

You people realize that the only league in the world that results in less championship disparity than the NBA is the EPL, which uses relegation/promotion.
 
2011-11-22 09:26:40 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Constrict the number of teams until all teams have a minimum supporting populace then revenue share amongst all teams.


Then make the owners of the Suns sell.

Oh and make sure your star player isn't a high multiple of all the other players' salaries combined.

Then make the owners of the Suns sell


You. I like you.

As for the article, why the hell are we so damn obsessed with being the international system here? Americans won't buy into a 2nd or 3rd tier team strongly enough to make it work. Well, it may work in the NFL but not in other sports.
 
2011-11-22 10:59:05 PM
N B Wha?
 
2011-11-22 11:29:08 PM
While the whole relegation/demotion things always looks "interesting" for leagues in the U.S., you can't really do that here. I'm not sure really how it works with the European leagues, but, my guess is that they don't really have any teams in those leagues that play in markets the size of ". Either that, or TV revenues really doesn't matter as much there. Or, people just love soccer so much, they will watch any soccer. Because, I can guarantee that ESPN & TNT aren't paying what they pay now for the NBA with the possibility (slim as it might be) that eventually Chicago and Miami could fall from the "Top" level league and be replaced by Fort Wayne and Erie.

At best, you could do what he is proposing with the existing NBA.... add two more teams and split it into the "Premiere 16" and the "Second" level league.
In each league, you play 5 games against every other team, with 1 game on a neutral site so there isn't a home/away disparity... that is a 75 game season. Each level then has it's own 8-team playoff. With the kicker being an additional round for the "Second Level" league, where the 2nd level league champ plays the worst team from the Premiere level in a 5 game series to determine who ends up in the Premiere league the next season.

Again though, sports ratings in leagues other than the NFL in the U.S. are heavily driven by market size.... so, the prospects of the "Top Level" league being devoid of NY, Chicago and LA are not appealing to the networks. And to U.S. fans, if you divide a league up like that, you've basically consigned the teams in the 2nd league to being seen as a "minor" league, whether true or not... yes, with a chance every year to maybe get back into the "top level", but, in the mean time, that "image" means the attendances nose dive while they are in the 2nd league, while the salaries don't go down.
 
2011-11-23 09:42:39 AM
The thing the players don't seem to understand or accept is that SOME of them (at least 1/3 or more) play for and are paid by small market teams. Just because you WANT to play in LA doesn't mean you will. The players' "dream" scenario aligns much more with the large market teams' perspective. However, what they aren't thinking about is that the only way for both them and the large market teams to get everything they want is to contract the NBA and ditch the small market teams. The end result of that would be at least 1/3 of the NBA players losing their jobs and having noplace else to go.

The players need to stop dreaming big and start figuring out how to save the small market teams (and their own jobs). The owners need to sort out their own priorities and agree among themselves what they can do.

Ideal solution would be for the owners to agree to enhanced financial transparency (at least among themselves if not with the players), increased revenue sharing, a 50/50 split of revenue, and revisions to the salary cap structure to allow a little more mobility through restrictions on guarantees and length of contract. The current salary cap rules are obtuse at best and end up sticking teams with no chance of winning for years on end (the opposite of what a salary cap is theoretically supposed to provide).
 
2011-11-23 06:11:33 PM
You rarely (outside of Eli crybaby Manning) hear NFL players complain about playing in a small market or crappy town.

I don't wanna live in Green Bay, Milwaukee, or OK City either, but if you paid me $5 million+, I'd love your city, and publicly. I might blow the mayor.
 
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