He was home-schooled by Baptists before it was mainstream. You ain't getting the god out of this boy.

violentsalvation: FirstNationalBastard: Matthew 6:5-6:6

"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Heh, I came in to post just this. Jesus doesn't love you back, Tebow. He thinks you're a hypocritical douche. But on the brighter side, Jesus and the magical sky wizard don't exist, so there's always that.

lennavan: violentsalvation: FirstNationalBastard: Matthew 6:5-6:6

"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Heh, I came in to post just this. Jesus doesn't love you back, Tebow. He thinks you're a hypocritical douche. But on the brighter side, Jesus and the magical sky wizard don't exist, so there's always that.

In what way is Tebow being hypocritical? To the verse, he's not praying or really even evangelizing constantly in public. Is it obnoxious? Absolutely. It was obnoxious when he was at Florida (even to me, as a Gator). But given the number of guys who constantly credit Jesus or God for their success, Tebow at least earnestly lives what he says. I'm not saying I don't find him obnoxious at times, a subpar quarterback at all times...but he's not a hypocrite, no matter what else he may be.

coinspinner: In what way is Tebow being hypocritical?

Read the verse, then ask Jesus, not me. Jesus is the one who said it. Granted I don't even believe Jesus existed but Tebow does.

coinspinner: To the verse, he's not praying

So what are these?





coinspinner: when he was at Florida

FirstNationalBastard: Matthew 6:5-6:6

Over in the Boobies.

Flanders > Tebow

It feels like he's wearing nothing at all...nothing at all...nothing at all...nothing at all...

Ok the obvious solution is to draft a D-lineman who prays to mecca after sacking football jesus. After all the USA is a peace loving nation open to people of all beliefs am I right?

lennavan: coinspinner: In what way is Tebow being hypocritical?

Read the verse, then ask Jesus, not me. Jesus is the one who said it. Granted I don't even believe Jesus existed but Tebow does.

coinspinner: To the verse, he's not praying

So what are these?

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coinspinner: when he was at Florida

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Well, Jeebus ain't around to ask, but in today's world, I'd think that verse would be better interpreted ("that they may be seen by men") to televangelists, or even other athletes who do it. I honestly get the sense that Tebow is praying in those images for no other reason than to give thanks to a God he earnestly believes in - even if, yes, there are cameras around. He'd be doing it even if there weren't cameras or a crowd around him. My only real issue is him being called hypocritical. Completely agree his faith (and the coverage/punditry) around it can be obnoxious as all hell, but at least his is genuine.

violentsalvation: FirstNationalBastard: Matthew 6:5-6:6

"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

I think 'ole Timmy is only giving a shout out to the good Lord in public, not really a prayer.

He does the serious stuff when cameras are not around.

coinspinner: Well, Jeebus ain't around to ask, but in today's world, I'd think that verse would be better interpreted ("that they may be seen by men") to televangelists, or even other athletes who do it. I honestly get the sense that Tebow is praying in those images for no other reason than to give thanks to a God he earnestly believes in - even if, yes, there are cameras around. He'd be doing it even if there weren't cameras or a crowd around him. My only real issue is him being called hypocritical. Completely agree his faith (and the coverage/punditry) around it can be obnoxious as all hell, but at least his is genuine.

Agreed. Atheists misinterpreting bible verses to suit their own worldviews are no better than Christians misinterpreting bible verses to suit their own worldviews.

You ain't getting the god out of this boy.

And you aren't getting too many completed passes either. He must be praying to the wrong god.

"If you're married, and you have a wife, and you really love your wife, is it good enough to only say to your wife, I love her, the day you get married? Or should you tell her every single day when you wake up and have the opportunity? And that's how I feel about my relationship with Jesus Christ," Tebow said.

Ok then Tebow...praise Jesus every morning when you wake up, and keep it to yourself then. No one is saying you can't praise Jesus. They're saying it's farking annoying that you've made it the entirety of your public persona. It's farking annoying that 85% or more of your fan base only likes you because you're a bible freak that won't shut the fark up. It's farking annoying that you seem to be capitalizing on your faith at every turn, like you're running for the GOP nomination or something.

so Tebow doesn't love Jesus, he's in love with Jesus. Got it.

Is this the 'Kyle Orton got shown the door' thread too?

Meh. Flanders is built more like a safety:
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Mr. Tebow: If you're truly grateful to God for helping you make that touchdown, or just grateful for giving you a pretty good life in general - nothing wrong with that - AND you believe that God is all-powerful, why can you not accept that God already KNOWS you're grateful, because He knows the thoughts of your heart, and will give you an "atta boy, Tim," when He gets around to it?
Whom are you trying to impress with the public displays of piety? Despite what you might have learned around the SEC, football is not a religion.

If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

InferiousX: If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

This would be pretty fun to watch...

he kind of reminds me of a nascar driver during interviews except his sponsor is the lord.

Ok, but no footlongs.

InferiousX: If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

I'm not sure why chicago doesn't take him back, considering cutler's situation

GimpyNip: Igor Jakovsky: he kind of reminds me of a nascar driver during interviews except his sponsor is the lord.

Or Michael Cole on RAW

"#Jesus is trending on Twitter!"

haha that is even more annoying

Igor Jakovsky: InferiousX: If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

I'm not sure why chicago doesn't take him back, considering cutler's situation

The reasoning I heard as to why they wouldn't, is that the offense under Martz is not what Orton would have been used to before. Caleb would be the better Q due to knowing the offense better than Orton.

It makes sense on paper to some degree anyway

You said it, man.

Muhammad Ali used to get the same crap about praising Allah and the honorable Elijah Muhammad, etc back in the late 60's and 70's. If fark existed back then would Ali get the same grief from folks on here or is it because Tebow praises the judeo-christian god?

Omnivorous: You ain't getting the god out of this boy.

And you aren't getting too many completed passes either. He must be praying to the wrong god.

Let's see, he's an ok quarterback; and he's, uh, helping build a children's hospital in the Philippines.

/yep - wrong god
//the right god would help him on 3rd down

I love this Tebow-mania.

You have the stupid "football experts" who claim winning is the be-all, end-all. They hate most statistics, and think QBs are the only reasons teams win. They HATED Tebow because he blows up their argument. He's a "just win" QB they can't get behind because he doesn't play as a traditional QB. Some of these guys (Cowherd) have come around and now claim they love Tebow.

Then you have the "smart" experts who rely too much on stats, and think Tebow is the worst QB they have ever seen. Anyone who DARES to think he's good is an idiot, or a non-football fan.

fark man, it's somewhere in the middle. Tebow is a GREAT runner. Not a good runner, a GREAT runner. But he's also not a RB. He's a great running QB. He looks like Gronkowski in the open field. So far, he has been a terrible passer. He has been lucky to avoid interceptions, but also thanks to a scaled back game plan, is not put in many situations where it would be easy to throw one.

If Tebow improved his passing, he could be a great QB. Really special, and fun to watch. If he doesn't improve at all, he's not long for the NFL.

As an Athiest, and a huge NFL fan, I really enjoy Tebow. I love that Fox didn't try and have this kid run a traditional offense. I love that they run twice for every pass. I love that he's winning, and driving a bunch of people crazy. The dude is a sick athlete, and as he is now, really dangerous with the football in his hands.

He seems overcovered due to being very Christian, and a White running QB. But I don't hold it against him. It is what it is.

Igor Jakovsky: Muhammad Ali used to get the same crap about praising Allah and the honorable Elijah Muhammad, etc back in the late 60's and 70's. If fark existed back then would Ali get the same grief from folks on here or is it because Tebow praises the judeo-christian god?

Ali was also great at what he did.

All Tebow's good at (from what I've seen of him play) is trying to get his receiver's killed by throwing a foot behind them.

InferiousX: Igor Jakovsky: InferiousX: If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

I'm not sure why chicago doesn't take him back, considering cutler's situation

The reasoning I heard as to why they wouldn't, is that the offense under Martz is not what Orton would have been used to before. Caleb would be the better Q due to knowing the offense better than Orton.

It makes sense on paper to some degree anyway

It does make sense. Even Bulger makes sense by that reasoning. Then again, Bulger would probably get killed in a few weeks.

The Redskins probably won't pay the $2.5M over six games on Tebow's contract just to get back into a QB controversy with Grossman with a best case scenario of 8-8.

So Texans or KC.

Rapmaster2000: InferiousX: Igor Jakovsky: InferiousX: If I had my way, Orton would find a moderate amount of success with an NFC team while Tebow went on to win 2 games....crying in the endzone after yet another safety while the gorillas in the stands of Mile High scream for Brady Quinn

I'm not sure why chicago doesn't take him back, considering cutler's situation

The reasoning I heard as to why they wouldn't, is that the offense under Martz is not what Orton would have been used to before. Caleb would be the better Q due to knowing the offense better than Orton.

It makes sense on paper to some degree anyway

It does make sense. Even Bulger makes sense by that reasoning. Then again, Bulger would probably get killed in a few weeks.

The Redskins probably won't pay the $2.5M over six games on Tebow's contract just to get back into a QB controversy with Grossman with a best case scenario of 8-8.

So Texans or KC.

I just confused Orton with Tebow. Damnit Tebow Orton!

If he's so religious why does he play football on Sundays? Eric Liddell would consider Tebow a poser.

EvilBillGates: I love this Tebow-mania.

You have the stupid "football experts" who claim winning is the be-all, end-all. They hate most statistics, and think QBs are the only reasons teams win. They HATED Tebow because he blows up their argument. He's a "just win" QB they can't get behind because he doesn't play as a traditional QB. Some of these guys (Cowherd) have come around and now claim they love Tebow..

Classic Cowherd. Even when I was wrong I was right!

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OH Jethus