NOT MY AZTECS!!

Yeah that makes way more sense than adding Memphis and a few other teams to be proud of your basketball again. Instead of good basketball how reasonable to bad football. How's that sound?

Jamdug!: Methinks they should rename said conference.

May I suggest: The Big Weast

Le Grand Inquisitor: NOT MY AZTECS!!

I honestly don't care what conference they end up with but I doubt MWC is going to be around much longer. Also, the sport I played at SDSU was club sport and we had different conference: SDSU, UCSD, USD, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona State, Cal Poly, Long Beach State, UCSB.

Well hey, now boise will still keep some of their cupcake games, congrats!!


Then again most are still cupcake games in the big least, especially once WVU leaves.

Jamdug!: Methinks they should rename said conference.

The Coast to Coast Connection

You know who wields a lot of the power right now? Boise.

The Big East knows that if they grab Boise, they'll also be attracting teams with them (as Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii followed them to the MWC), because where Boise goes, that conference will likely have the AQ status. If Boise goes to the Big East, then sure Houston, SMU and the others will follow. If they stay in the MWC? Then nobody from the MWC will jump to the Big East, because the odds immediately become stacked in favor of the MWC getting AQ status. Hell, it probably wouldn't be hard for the MWC to simply poach Houston and SMU from CUSA. Because honestly, the MWC would be in much better shape than the Big East at that point.

Personally, I hope Boise tells the Big East to shove it, just so the conferences maintain some semblance of geographic sanity. The Big East can expand with Army, Navy, Temple, ECU, UCF, Villanova and/or Memphis.

jht: Well, San Diego State is east...

Of Hawaii!

It's east of Reno, too!

Le Grand Inquisitor: NOT MY AZTECS!!

That's how I feel too. I want them to step UP into a better conference, not into one with a bunch of no-name schools. Hell, the MWC will be a better conference than the Big East here in a few years with all the planned additions.

as a san diego st alum, i'd personally like to say that i'd rather see us go independent than join the big east.

SDSU probably gets the invite because BYU is a colossal pain in the ass to deal with. (new window). Gee, color me shocked.

Watching BYU burn every possible bridge in the college football world with their unending supply of arrogance is simply delicious.

I assume it will be football-only join.

Can you imagine the men's tennis team taking a 60-hr. bus ride (each way) for matches in Storrs? Or the South Florida women's Volleyball team's road trip to Rutgers, San Diego State, Marquette, and Providence?

/actually, sounds like a party!

lacydog: You know who wields a lot of the power right now? Boise.

The Big East knows that if they grab Boise, they'll also be attracting teams with them (as Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii followed them to the MWC), because where Boise goes, that conference will likely have the AQ status. If Boise goes to the Big East, then sure Houston, SMU and the others will follow. If they stay in the MWC? Then nobody from the MWC will jump to the Big East, because the odds immediately become stacked in favor of the MWC getting AQ status. Hell, it probably wouldn't be hard for the MWC to simply poach Houston and SMU from CUSA. Because honestly, the MWC would be in much better shape than the Big East at that point.

Personally, I hope Boise tells the Big East to shove it, just so the conferences maintain some semblance of geographic sanity. The Big East can expand with Army, Navy, Temple, ECU, UCF, Villanova and/or Memphis.

I am hoping for boise to join just so they get to go .500 next year in the weakest conference in the BCS and what you dont understand about AQ status is that politics are involved, there is no way the MWC get AQ, I would think c-usa or the wac would just on their connections alone but none of those conferences are above the big east right now anyway.

MiamiBlues: I assume it will be football-only join.

Can you imagine the men's tennis team taking a 60-hr. bus ride (each way) for matches in Storrs? Or the South Florida women's Volleyball team's road trip to Rutgers, San Diego State, Marquette, and Providence?

/actually, sounds like a party!

SDSU doesn't have the influence that ND has to pull off a "football only" type of deal. The only other school that could pull that off might be BYU because of their national following.

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Yeah...total upgrade...

lacydog: You know who wields a lot of the power right now? Boise.

The Big East knows that if they grab Boise, they'll also be attracting teams with them (as Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii followed them to the MWC), because where Boise goes, that conference will likely have the AQ status. If Boise goes to the Big East, then sure Houston, SMU and the others will follow. If they stay in the MWC? Then nobody from the MWC will jump to the Big East, because the odds immediately become stacked in favor of the MWC getting AQ status. Hell, it probably wouldn't be hard for the MWC to simply poach Houston and SMU from CUSA. Because honestly, the MWC would be in much better shape than the Big East at that point.

Personally, I hope Boise tells the Big East to shove it, just so the conferences maintain some semblance of geographic sanity. The Big East can expand with Army, Navy, Temple, ECU, UCF, Villanova and/or Memphis.

If I am Boise, unless I get an offer for full membership from a major conference (at least for other major sports), I say let them walk. If nothing else, Boise State should consider going independent for football and stay put in other sports, if they are willing to let their football team play outside of the same conference in which their other programs participate. To me, the Big East is in NO position to make demands of any potential programs (not that BSU is a big fish in the pond), especially with the rumors flying that "automatic qualifying conferences" will no longer be in the BCS mix in a few years.

The Big East should join up with MountUS and call it a day.

ddam: BYU because of their national following

WHUT? Are there that many mormons that follow football?

puffy999: If I am Boise, unless I get an offer for full membership from a major conference (at least for other major sports), I say let them walk. If nothing else, Boise State should consider going independent for football and stay put in other sports, if they are willing to let their football team play outside of the same conference in which their other programs participate. To me, the Big East is in NO position to make demands of any potential programs (not that BSU is a big fish in the pond), especially with the rumors flying that "automatic qualifying conferences" will no longer be in the BCS mix in a few years.

Boise doesnt have the cash endowment to go independent, that is one of their biggest downsides of being an old local college.

American colleges don't teach geography any more.

As posted in a previous Big East expansion thread:

BIG WEST
Air Force
Boise State
Houston
Southern Methodist
Fresno State
San Diego State

Fresno state is in there in case BYU balks. Since there are no major schools available in football hotbeds like Florida, Texas and California doubling down in these states gives the Big East a much better recruiting presence then any one of the smaller programs in these states can by themselves. It also helps with selling a TV package that can claim significant portions of these state's markets as would BYU with it's nationwide following of mormon supporters.

As for people that can't seem to seperate themselves from geography, remember that most games will be played in division so you are looking at only 3 or 4 long travel games (depending on an 8 or 9 game conference schedule) at most so this is really not a big deal. Even if travel was an issue (Clue: it's not) Hawaii and Louisiana State have no trouble dealing with it so I doubt these Big East invites would either.

For anyone who thinks the Mountain West would be better off than the Big East for AQ status, that is total myth as well. If AQ remains a part of the BCS structure the Big East is in no danger of losing it. The criteria everyone likes to link to for AQ status is a list for an outside conference to possibly ACQUIRE it. There is no path to remove AQ status from a CURRENT AQ conference. This is one of the reasons the BCS powers that be are currently kicking around the idea of losing AQs altogether.

Even so Boise State, and any other school looking to move up, will be better served joining the Big East/West proposal then staying in what will become a MW/C-USA mash-up or what will be left of the WAC. They will have access to bigger markets, increased recruiting potential and more TV money than anything the smaller conferences can offer.

the1hatman: Even if travel was an issue (Clue: it's not) Hawaii and Louisiana State TECH have no trouble dealing with it so I doubt these Big East invites would either.

FTFM

animesucks: as a san diego st alum, i'd personally like to say that i'd rather see us go independent than join the big east.

I second the motion...

Of course this won't really matter if Jim Delaney gets his way and the BCS limits itself to staging just the title game instead of all five BCS bowls. If AQ status is gone, stick a fork in the Big East and the ACC. Bowl organizers will load up lucrative bowls with SEC/Big Ten/Big 12 teams (okay, really just Texas and OU). Big East "champ" will have a nice home in the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl every year.

I really hope Delaney gets his way. It's not like non-AQ teams have a realistic shot at the title anyway under the current system since the computers and human polls always hate them. If we're going to have such an asinine postseason in college football, at least let bowl organizers handle the match-ups. They're much, much better at staging compelling games than the BCS. Unless we get a playoff, go back to the pre-BCS system for bowls, or at least something more closely resembling it like Delaney's plan. Don't really care if a non-AQ like Boise gets shut out of a big-time bowl because they're Boise; unless they finish in the top two and make the championship game, a bowl shouldn't be obligated to take them.

lacydog: Hell, it probably wouldn't be hard for the MWC to simply poach Houston and SMU from CUSA. Because honestly, the MWC would be in much better shape than the Big East at that point.

Sorry, but the MWC is nowhere near as attractive as the Big East. The MWC just doesn't bring the markets and media exposure of the Big East, even a depleted Big East. And Houston is poised to be the next Boise State.

On a somewhat off-topic note, I thought the lesser amount of scholarships was supposed to improve football as a whole. For a few scant years, it did; teams like South Florida, Louisiana Tech, and Ohio took advantage and nabbed a few of the better recruits that wouldn't make their respective state's bigger schools' rosters. Well, what the fark happened? B.J. Daniels is the best USF could do and the entire MAC is awful to watch ... and I brag that I could watch twenty-two toaster ovens play football; I can usually find something to enjoy in a football game.

Not this shiat.

Well ESPN (I know, I know) is now reporting that BYU is not gonna be joining the Big East. So SDSU has a punchers chance here.

/They should really just disband the football Big East.
//Money's too good though

As for Rutgers, this weekend is truly BCS or bust. Once the AQ status is wiped out altogether, we could go undefeated and still miss out on one of the major bowls.

Just call that group of schools the Far East division and be done with it. Not like any of the other major conferences are staying true to their names.

/Yeah, yeah, ACC...

the1hatman: As posted in a previous Big East expansion thread:

BIG WEST
Air Force
Boise State
Houston
Southern Methodist
Fresno State
San Diego State



Change the name. There already *is* a Big West conference, albiet basketball only now.

Used to exist for football too. Included such notable schools as Idaho, Boise (!), Nevada, North Texas, New Mexico State and Utah State.

/alum of one of those crap schools

Menjo_Bleeko: the1hatman: BIG WEST

Change the name. There already *is* a Big West conference, albiet basketball only now.

Used to exist for football too. Included such notable schools as Idaho, Boise (!), Nevada, North Texas, New Mexico State and Utah State.

/alum of one of those crap schools

Well it's really just a working division name for now but I'm sure someone could think of something decent. Still if the news about BYU turning it down is true then I still believe this makes for a viable conference AQ or no.

EVERYONE.

THE BIG EAST DOES NOT DESERVE AN AUTOMATIC QUALIFIER.

the1hatman: As posted in a previous Big East expansion thread:

BIG WEST
Air Force
Boise State
Houston
Southern Methodist
Fresno State
San Diego State

Fresno state is in there in case BYU balks. Since there are no major schools available in football hotbeds like Florida, Texas and California doubling down in these states gives the Big East a much better recruiting presence then any one of the smaller programs in these states can by themselves. It also helps with selling a TV package that can claim significant portions of these state's markets as would BYU with it's nationwide following of mormon supporters.

As for people that can't seem to seperate themselves from geography, remember that most games will be played in division so you are looking at only 3 or 4 long travel games (depending on an 8 or 9 game conference schedule) at most so this is really not a big deal. Even if travel was an issue (Clue: it's not) Hawaii and Louisiana State have no trouble dealing with it so I doubt these Big East invites would either.

For anyone who thinks the Mountain West would be better off than the Big East for AQ status, that is total myth as well. If AQ remains a part of the BCS structure the Big East is in no danger of losing it. The criteria everyone likes to link to for AQ status is a list for an outside conference to possibly ACQUIRE it. There is no path to remove AQ status from a CURRENT AQ conference. This is one of the reasons the BCS powers that be are currently kicking around the idea of losing AQs altogether.

Even so Boise State, and any other school looking to move up, will be better served joining the Big East/West proposal then staying in what will become a MW/C-USA mash-up or what will be left of the WAC. They will have access to bigger markets, increased recruiting potential and more TV money than anything the smaller conferences can offer.

BYU decided they are not joining the Big East.

kdawg7736: BYU decided they are not joining the Big East.

Yea... hense why I posted:
Still if the news about BYU turning it down is true then I still believe this makes for a viable conference AQ or no.

I never had BYU in the Big East to begin with. Thought they would hook up with the Big XII but the same thing killed both deals it sounds like. I still get the feeling the BXII finds a way to get back to 12 teams again with Louisville being one of them. Not sure who else they would pull at this time. I would like to say Memphis just because it would turn them into a basketball power but we all know football is the driving factor here so it seems unlikely. Still having FedEx (founder has been pimping Memphis to any AQ conference that would listen) as a sudden corporate partner would be a boon for their conference.

Big XII
NORTH: Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, West Virginia(pending), Louisville, Memphis
SOUTH: Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Christian(pending)

Big America Conference (or whatever)
BIG EAST: Cincinnati, Rutgers, Connecticut, South Florida, Navy(invited), Central Florida(invited)
BIG WEST: Boise State, Air Force, Houston, SMU (= all invited), San Diego State, Fresno State

steamingpile: lacydog: You know who wields a lot of the power right now? Boise.

I am hoping for boise to join just so they get to go .500 next year in the weakest conference in the BCS and what you dont understand about AQ status is that politics are involved, there is no way the MWC get AQ, I would think c-usa or the wac would just on their connections alone but none of those conferences are above the big east right now anyway.

Still butthurt over Sept 3 are we?

bahamasorbust: Still butthurt over Sept 3 are we?

Not really since its easy to get up for one game a year instead of worrying about a top 15 team the next week, get back to us when boise plays back to back ranked teams instead of maybe 2 or in a good year 3 top 30 teams.

Im actually really hoping to get boise in a bowl game, that would be fun since our mostly freshmen class has had time to mature on what was supposed to be a really shiatty year.

In other news, SDSU just beat the 23rd-ranked Arizona Wildcats basketball team tonight in Arizona...Anyone that watched the game saw how SDSU absolutely DOMINATED the first part of the game.

/Aztec for life.

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In other news, SDSU just beat the 23rd-ranked Arizona Wildcats basketball team tonight in Arizona...Anyone that watched the game saw how SDSU absolutely DOMINATED the first part of the game.

/Aztec for life.

Watched that. Beautiful start to the game. Utter domination. Arizona never lead and if we hadn't shot so crappily from the FT line would never have been in it. Handle business on Saturday and we're ranked next week. Go Red&Black.