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(Yahoo) Followup Police re-opened the Natalie Wood investigation because a totally credible witness who just happens not to have said anything to anyone for more than 20 years, says she heard Woods screaming for help on the night she died   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 44
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2011-11-22 10:11:55 AM
Once my friend was valeting cars for a hotel in Buckhead and Robert Wagner walked out and said "Boy! Oh, boy! Bring around my car! Chop chop!" And clapped his hands to go with the chop-chop. So now, whenever I see him hawking life insurance I can't help but think "what a pretentious dick".

/csb
//can't remember if he tipped
 
2011-11-22 10:12:23 AM
Fox News?
 
2011-11-22 10:13:36 AM
What kind of wood doesn't float?
 
2011-11-22 10:13:49 AM
Wasn't Wagner cheating on her? And didn't they get into a fight that night? And wasn't she afraid of the water because she didn't know how to swim?

Nope, not suspicious at all. Not one bit.
 
2011-11-22 10:14:30 AM
who just happens not to have said anything to anyone for more than 20 years

"Wayne, a former stockbroker, said in the statement... that she received a threatening note cautioning her to keep quiet about what she knew."

If true, Subby, then that isn't really asinine.
 
2011-11-22 10:15:41 AM
lenfromak: What kind of wood doesn't float?

Damn you!
 
2011-11-22 10:17:41 AM
Rapmaster2000: Once my friend was valeting cars for a hotel in Buckhead and Robert Wagner walked out and said "Boy! Oh, boy! Bring around my car! Chop chop!" And clapped his hands to go with the chop-chop. So now, whenever I see him hawking life insurance I can't help but think "what a pretentious dick".

/csb
//can't remember if he tipped


You know who else lives in Buckhead?

i67.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-22 10:21:36 AM
chewielouie: Wasn't Wagner cheating on her? And didn't they get into a fight that night? And wasn't she afraid of the water because she didn't know how to swim?

Nope, not suspicious at all. Not one bit.


Yes, but she was also high and drunk and may have wanted to get away from him because he was being an ass and actually DID slip and fall into the water while trying to get into a dingy.

She had a coat on. Did Robert put her coat on her before smashing her in the head and pushing her overboard?
 
2011-11-22 10:21:57 AM
Natalie Wood was farking gorgeous.

And Lana had ungodly huge tatties.
 
2011-11-22 10:22:46 AM
lenfromak: What kind of wood doesn't float?

Morning Wood
 
2011-11-22 10:24:10 AM
lenfromak: What kind of wood doesn't float?

Technically she did float...
 
2011-11-22 10:24:20 AM
lenfromak: What kind of wood doesn't float?

Dammitalltohell.

Came to say that.
 
2011-11-22 10:24:58 AM
chewielouie: Wasn't Wagner cheating on her? And didn't they get into a fight that night? And wasn't she afraid of the water because she didn't know how to swim?

don't know
by every account, yes
supposedly

and don't forget the bruises on her body and face. ALLEGEDLY.
 
2011-11-22 10:25:36 AM
"Anybody there saw the logistics -- of the boat, the night, where we were, that it was raining -- and would know exactly what happened. You hear about things happening to people - they slip in the bathtub, fall down the stairs, step off the curb in London because they think that the cars come the other way - and they die. You feel you want to die making an effort at something; you don't want to die in some unnecessary way."

"What happened that night only she knows, because she was alone. She had gone to bed before us, and her room was at the back. A dinghy was bouncing against the side of the boat, and I think she went out to move it. There was a ski ramp that was partially in the water. It was slippery - I had walked on it myself. She had told me she couldn't swim; in fact, they had to cut a swimming scene from Brainstorm. She was probably half asleep, and she was wearing a coat."

Read that in Christopher Walken's voice with Hickey in mind..
 
2011-11-22 10:26:51 AM
Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the yacht?
 
2011-11-22 10:28:14 AM
antinorm.zenblue.net

"Wood". huh huh huh
 
2011-11-22 10:28:18 AM
watchesinmovies.info

"I got something for ya. This watch I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the first world war. It was bought in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee, made by the first company to ever make wrist watches. He kept the watch safe and gave it to your granddaddy, who then gave it to your dad. Three days before the we left for Catalina Island , your dad, the captain of the Splendour, asked me to take care of this watch and give it to his infant son in case he went he went down with the yacht."
 
2011-11-22 10:28:52 AM
It has long been known that Robert Wagner is bisexual. So he and Walken were probably down below he-ing and he-ing and didn't hear Natalie's cries for help.
 
2011-11-22 10:33:11 AM
spacely_sprocket: Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the yacht?


She wanted to make herself clean once she returned to dry land because it was hard to bathe or shower on the the boat because it made her seasick and upset her stomach so she generally made efforts to maintain bodily hygiene on land where she could more easily take her time or relax with a nice mud mask / cucumber mask and perhaps a nice zinfandel at the ready, accompanied by some light jazz or perhaps candles, all of these things not entirely logistically possible while on a boat.
 
2011-11-22 10:34:01 AM
rickythepenguin: And Lana had ungodly huge tatties.

img002.lazygirls.info
 
2011-11-22 10:36:10 AM
Ochiba: Read that in Christopher Walken's voice with Hickey in mind..

In fact nobody but Walken should be narrating this from here on out. Sit your raggedy ass down, James Earl Jones.
 
2011-11-22 10:48:44 AM
"A woman's voice, crying for help from drowning awakened John, and he awakened me. 'Help me, someone please help me, I'm drowning' we heard repeatedly."

I would assume that if you're drowning, you don't have enough air to scream for help. Can anyone confirm/deny?
 
2011-11-22 10:56:44 AM
Wellon Dowd: rickythepenguin: And Lana had ungodly huge tatties.

[img002.lazygirls.info image 480x519]


She had plenty alright.
 
2011-11-22 11:02:41 AM
Drinking and swimming (especially for someone that can't swim) don't mix well.

However, this is something I didn't know:
"She had dozens of bruises on her body, according to the autopsy report, including injuries to her face and arms."

I could see one or two bruises from falling into the water and banging against the boat...but dozens?
 
2011-11-22 11:07:07 AM
Theaetetus: who just happens not to have said anything to anyone for more than 20 years

"Wayne, a former stockbroker, said in the statement... that she received a threatening note cautioning her to keep quiet about what she knew."

If true, Subby, then that isn't really asinine.


and that detail doesn't seem a little dime-store novel to you? And you buy that a wealthy stockbroker doesn't go tot he police/ hire a PI to find out who is threatening her?
 
2011-11-22 11:09:02 AM
rickythepenguin: spacely_sprocket: Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the yacht?


She wanted to make herself clean once she returned to dry land because it was hard to bathe or shower on the the boat because it made her seasick and upset her stomach so she generally made efforts to maintain bodily hygiene on land where she could more easily take her time or relax with a nice mud mask / cucumber mask and perhaps a nice zinfandel at the ready, accompanied by some light jazz or perhaps candles, all of these things not entirely logistically possible while on a boat.


Not sure if you intentional ignored the joke or accidentally missed it.

But I'm going to step up and finish it.

Why? Because she figured she'd just wash up on shore!

/ here all week, try the veal.
// I also like the JFK Jr. version
///Don't need a ticket, I have karma to burn...
 
2011-11-22 11:11:12 AM
Chinchillazilla: "A woman's voice, crying for help from drowning awakened John, and he awakened me. 'Help me, someone please help me, I'm drowning' we heard repeatedly."

I would assume that if you're drowning, you don't have enough air to scream for help. Can anyone confirm/deny?


It is a mistake to accept any witness quotation word-for-word. Human witnesses are notoriously bad at recall, unlike what TV cop shows would seem to suggest.
 
2011-11-22 11:11:14 AM
This woman told the cops this - it was in all the newspapers (and LA Times is posting the original stories on their site). The cops could not find anyone else who heard anything, AND there was a boat between them having a party. So the cops felt this couldn't have happened.

As for the bruises and scrapes, you walk around on a boat for a while. It's easy to get bruised. And if you fall head first onto a dinghy, you can scrape your face. Seriously, this isn't rocket science, guys.
 
2011-11-22 11:27:34 AM
If the dingy was tied against the boat in such a way that it was bouncing against it, and she fell between the two, she would have probably gotten beaten up pretty badly by them. She could easily have gotten knocked out and then stuck under them and that's how she drowned.
 
2011-11-22 11:27:48 AM
ronaprhys: lenfromak: What kind of wood doesn't float?

Dammitalltohell.

Came to say that.


/joke never gets old, unlike us
 
2011-11-22 11:28:36 AM
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and

blog.pennlive.com
 
2011-11-22 11:31:47 AM
Wagner might have killed her. He might have pushed her overboard. He also may have done something that made her fall into the water, and then couldn't or didn't bother to save her. But nobody is ever going to know, unless he confesses. Since he didn't do it when she drowns, I hardly think anything new is going to come out now.
 
2011-11-22 11:47:18 AM
Chinchillazilla: "A woman's voice, crying for help from drowning awakened John, and he awakened me. 'Help me, someone please help me, I'm drowning' we heard repeatedly."

I would assume that if you're drowning, you don't have enough air to scream for help. Can anyone confirm/deny?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinctive_drowning_response

"A person at, or close to, the point of drowning is unable to keep his/her mouth above water long enough to breathe properly and is unable to shout.[1] Lacking air, his/her body cannot perform the voluntary efforts involved in waving or seeking attention. Involuntary actions operated by the autonomic nervous system involve lateral flapping or paddling with the arms to press them down into the water in the effort to raise the mouth long enough to breathe, and tilting the head back.[1] As an instinctive reaction, this is not consciously mediated nor under conscious control.[1]

The victim is "too quiet," and unable to make other life-preserving actions - they cannot kick their feet, nor swim to a rescuer, nor grasp a rope or other rescue equipment at this point.[1] They may be misunderstood as "playing in the water" by those unfamiliar with drowning, and other swimmers just meters away may not realize that an emergency is occurring.

The lack of leg movement, upright position, inability to talk or keep the mouth consistently above water, and (upon attempting to reach the victim) the absence of expected rescue-directed actions, are evidence of the condition."
 
2011-11-22 11:59:14 AM
Everybody was lousy stinking drunk on that boat that night. I'm surprised that all three of them didn't drown themselves.
 
2011-11-22 12:02:19 PM
Natalie Wood? Not a witch.
 
mjg
2011-11-22 12:05:16 PM
Captain: "I heard a cow-bell, then a scream, then silence."
 
2011-11-22 12:30:48 PM
I wouldn't say this is 'new' news. It was already well-known that surrounding boats heard her crying for help.
 
2011-11-22 01:53:57 PM
Full Retro:
What do you get if you cross Natalie Wood and John Belushi?
A coke float!
 
2011-11-22 01:53:59 PM
fst_creeper: rickythepenguin: spacely_sprocket: Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the yacht?


She wanted to make herself clean once she returned to dry land because it was hard to bathe or shower on the the boat because it made her seasick and upset her stomach so she generally made efforts to maintain bodily hygiene on land where she could more easily take her time or relax with a nice mud mask / cucumber mask and perhaps a nice zinfandel at the ready, accompanied by some light jazz or perhaps candles, all of these things not entirely logistically possible while on a boat.

Not sure if you intentional ignored the joke or accidentally missed it.

But I'm going to step up and finish it.

Why? Because she figured she'd just wash up on shore!

/ here all week, try the veal.
// I also like the JFK Jr. version
///Don't need a ticket, I have karma to burn...


I think I just heard a giant WOOOOOSH sound.
 
2011-11-22 02:16:32 PM
T.rex: I wouldn't say this is 'new' news. It was already well-known that surrounding boats heard her crying for help.

Wrong. Only one person claims to have heard screaming.
 
2011-11-22 03:36:13 PM
Morpheses: fst_creeper: rickythepenguin: spacely_sprocket: Why didn't Natalie take a shower on the yacht?


She wanted to make herself clean once she returned to dry land because it was hard to bathe or shower on the the boat because it made her seasick and upset her stomach so she generally made efforts to maintain bodily hygiene on land where she could more easily take her time or relax with a nice mud mask / cucumber mask and perhaps a nice zinfandel at the ready, accompanied by some light jazz or perhaps candles, all of these things not entirely logistically possible while on a boat.

Not sure if you intentional ignored the joke or accidentally missed it.

But I'm going to step up and finish it.

Why? Because she figured she'd just wash up on shore!

/ here all week, try the veal.
// I also like the JFK Jr. version
///Don't need a ticket, I have karma to burn...

I think I just heard a giant WOOOOOSH sound.


Ok, the joke goes like this (JFK, Jr. version):

"As JFK, Jr. and his lovely bride Carolyn were getting ready for the flight to Martha Vineyard, she noticed that he had not showered after his workout and was all stinky and smelly. Not wanting to ride in the enclosed cockpit with the BO and convinced that he would be more refreshed to fly, she said 'John honey, why don't you go take a quick shower before we fly?' To this JFK Jr. replied, 'No, I'll just wash up on shore!'"

/see, because bodies lost as sea sometimes wash up on shore...
//I'm betting it didn't go over your head, your subconscious ducked.
///gallows humor: a coping mechanism since the dawn of time.
////I got to recycle some NASA jokes that were just as bad too.
 
2011-11-22 04:31:49 PM
She just fell off the freaking boat, ok?

/didn't liker her in scanners
 
2011-11-22 04:33:01 PM
phrawgh: She just fell off the freaking boat, ok?

/didn't liker her in scanners


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2011-11-23 12:42:29 PM
zabadu: T.rex: I wouldn't say this is 'new' news. It was already well-known that surrounding boats heard her crying for help.

Wrong. Only one person claims to have heard screaming.


Well, i claim i heard it, so that makes at least two.
 
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