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(Talking Points Memo) Interesting GOP presidential candidates who have name-dropped Ronald Reagan more often are higher up in the polls. And the one candidate who's never mentioned him? Well, his popularity has declined   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 41
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2011-11-22 08:40:28 AM
Romney says whatever his creator programmed him to say. That explains him randomly saying "20 GOTO 10" when talking about foreign policy.

Newt, of course, is a historian, and knows exactly what he wants to repeat.
 
2011-11-22 08:42:26 AM
Who do they name drop more often, Reagan or God?
 
2011-11-22 08:43:41 AM
Reagan was a bastard S.O.B. I'm glad he's dead.
 
2011-11-22 08:43:59 AM
 
2011-11-22 08:51:30 AM
I farking love how conservatives have a reliable tendency to become the things they profess to hate. They are every bit as given to a cult of personality as the communists were/are. Why don't they just dig up their Dear Leader and encase him glass at the Reagan Library?
 
2011-11-22 08:51:46 AM
I liked Reagan, but I just cannot stand those politicians who think that somehow if they were more like him and do the things he did the that all the country's problems would be solved.

I mean Harry Truman was a hell of a guy too but we surely wouldn't use his "NUKE'EM!!!" approach to war these days.
 
2011-11-22 08:52:16 AM
My favorite part of the SNL VP debate parody was when Tina Fey as Sarah Palin says "The great Ronald Reagan!" and then doesn't follow it up with anything.
 
2011-11-22 08:59:10 AM
Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.
 
2011-11-22 09:01:28 AM
When confronted with Reagan's actual record on taxes, immigration and war vs. what they claim his record to be, they're always left a bit confused. But as we all know, the Reagan worked in mysterious ways.
 
2011-11-22 09:05:20 AM
gshepnyc: I farking love how conservatives have a reliable tendency to become the things they profess to hate. They are every bit as given to a cult of personality as the communists were/are. Why don't they just dig up their Dear Leader and encase him glass at the Reagan Library?

It's called "projecting"
 
2011-11-22 09:07:13 AM
A Terrible Human: Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.

That's apparently because you're a liberal hippie who hates America.

Are you even aware of Reagan's many accomplishments?

- Cut taxes and eliminated the federal deficit.
- Destroyed the Soviet Union and ended communism.
- Cut taxes.
- Cured cancer.
- Cut taxes.

- Cut
 
2011-11-22 09:08:08 AM
Reagan-worship is still one of the odder characteristics of the modern GOP'er. And that's saying something. These f*ckers have not gotten worse. They were just as loony and deranged when they came into power back in 1980.
i.usatoday.net
 
2011-11-22 09:09:15 AM
Noun, verb, Ronald Reagan.
 
2011-11-22 09:20:11 AM
A Terrible Human: Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.

Incredibly popuiar Republican president in our life time. The Bush's never had his level of popularity of success. Hell let's be honest, Obama name drops the guy a lot too, not to mention fark libs. We can go a week or so without somebody dropping an article comparing something Obama did to Reagan.
 
2011-11-22 09:29:36 AM
I can't believe Romney hasn't run away with this thing yet. If the GOP hasn't realized by now that he (I guess Huntsman, too, but he's always been a longshot) is the only chance they have to appeal to a broad enough segment of the population to come even close to winning the general election, well they might as well let Obama run unopposed and try to take the Senate.
 
2011-11-22 09:38:31 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: - Cut taxes and eliminated the federal deficit.
- Destroyed the Soviet Union and ended communism.
- Cut taxes.
- Cured cancer.
- Cut taxes.



Lulz

EWreckedSean: Incredibly popuiar Republican president in our life time. The Bush's never had his level of popularity of success. Hell let's be honest, Obama name drops the guy a lot too, not to mention fark libs. We can go a week or so without somebody dropping an article comparing something Obama did to Reagan.

Well I guess I'm a fark lib but I don't give a shiat about Reagan.

/Realized I spelled his name wrong.
//This is what happens when you don't sleep.
 
2011-11-22 09:42:15 AM
A Terrible Human: Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.

If you exclude Reagan, who is the last great Republican President?

Eisenhower was a middle of the pack President. I liked the first Bush but since he raised taxes, the GOP has to hate him.

The GOP needed a hero so Reagan was anointed.
 
2011-11-22 09:46:05 AM
if reagan ran today, he wouldn't make it past new hampshire. he's FAR too liberal for the GOP. he's raised taxes. he's given amnesty to illegals. he's been divorced. he's worked with democrats. seriously.
 
2011-11-22 09:48:42 AM
BTW -- The Dems were looney about JFK for a long time too.
 
2011-11-22 09:52:04 AM
If you say "Ronald Reagan" three times in succession he will appear. But be warned, he is notoriously difficult to control.
 
2011-11-22 10:07:07 AM
fracto73: Who do they name drop more often, Reagan or God?

Trick question, Reagan IS God.

www.chicagonow.com
 
2011-11-22 10:15:21 AM
Who cares? OccupyDC
 
2011-11-22 10:16:51 AM
FlashHarry: if reagan ran today, he wouldn't make it past new hampshire. he's FAR too liberal for the GOP. he's raised taxes. he's given amnesty to illegals. he's been divorced. he's worked with democrats. seriously.

I'm not sure people paid attention to his positions. A couple of years back, when cleaning out my grandparents' house, I found a St. Louis Post-Dispatch News Analysis section from 1984 with the positions of Reagan and Mondale spelled out in full. Reading over them... I didn't like any of Reagan's positions. I liked Reagan at the time, but I was 13 back then.
 
2011-11-22 10:17:21 AM
"Newt mentioned Reagan alot! Hence, Newt's current gain in the polls can be attributed to it!"

No, Newt is going up in the polls because the Republican base is trying to find anybody besides Romney, who has already been chosen by the real powerbrokers. And since Cain is falling by the wayside (like every OTHER Republican candidate), this is just rationalizing trying to find someone that can put together the rich and the rubes.
 
2011-11-22 10:21:16 AM
Yeah, but they forget about his famous speech saying that the wealthy had to "pay their fair share" of taxes and raised the rates. Republicans have a bad habit of just inventing history in speeches and interviews because they know their base will never fact check them. They also will never go on a website or watch a news channel that would fact check them either. You know...That GOTCHA LIBERAL MEDIA!!!
 
2011-11-22 10:21:28 AM
FlashHarry: if reagan ran today, he wouldn't make it past new hampshire. he's FAR too liberal for the GOP. he's raised taxes. he's given amnesty to illegals. he's been divorced. he's worked with democrats. seriously.

"These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland ... They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." -Ronald Reagan

/What a communist
//This is a fun game
 
2011-11-22 10:22:24 AM
A Terrible Human: Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.

Life was pretty good in the 80's
 
2011-11-22 10:23:48 AM
Dumbasses! Reagan was the second worst president in the last 50 years.
 
2011-11-22 10:27:02 AM
Reagan was kind of an out of touch dick... But he looks like Will Rogers compared to the current crop of GOP assholes.

pxsteel: Life was pretty good in the 80's

Not for everyone, my friend... not by a long shot.
 
2011-11-22 10:27:32 AM
Ask any of these f*cktards how many times Saint Ronnie raised taxes and watch them spin like dime store tops
 
2011-11-22 10:35:54 AM
keylock71: Reagan was kind of an out of touch dick... But he looks like Will Rogers compared to the current crop of GOP assholes.

pxsteel: Life was pretty good in the 80's

Not for everyone, my friend... not by a long shot.


It was better for the overwhelming mass majority of everybody. Much better than the 70's and better than today for that matter.
 
2011-11-22 10:35:57 AM
Alphax: FlashHarry: if reagan ran today, he wouldn't make it past new hampshire. he's FAR too liberal for the GOP. he's raised taxes. he's given amnesty to illegals. he's been divorced. he's worked with democrats. seriously.

I'm not sure people paid attention to his positions. A couple of years back, when cleaning out my grandparents' house, I found a St. Louis Post-Dispatch News Analysis section from 1984 with the positions of Reagan and Mondale spelled out in full. Reading over them... I didn't like any of Reagan's positions. I liked Reagan at the time, but I was 13 back then.


This is very true. Reagan was a master of duplicity. And, he actually did get some things done. Some of them were even good things. He just added some innovations in laying all of society's ills on the backs of the most downtrodden.
 
2011-11-22 10:41:31 AM
LittleSmitty: Ask any of these f*cktards how many times Saint Ronnie raised taxes and watch them spin like dime store tops

Asking questions like that is "biased" and "partisan," not to mention "gotcha." Good journalists listen and repeat what the candidate says without commentary.
 
2011-11-22 10:45:59 AM
pxsteel: keylock71: Reagan was kind of an out of touch dick... But he looks like Will Rogers compared to the current crop of GOP assholes.

pxsteel: Life was pretty good in the 80's

Not for everyone, my friend... not by a long shot.

It was better for the overwhelming mass majority of everybody. Much better than the 70's and better than today for that matter.


If you say so...
 
2011-11-22 10:56:32 AM
EWreckedSean: Hell let's be honest, Obama name drops the guy a lot too, not to mention fark libs.

Sure, but the difference is that when we mention his name we aren't compelled to genuflect and murmur "Peace upon him."
 
2011-11-22 11:23:42 AM
keylock71: pxsteel: keylock71: Reagan was kind of an out of touch dick... But he looks like Will Rogers compared to the current crop of GOP assholes.

pxsteel: Life was pretty good in the 80's

Not for everyone, my friend... not by a long shot.

It was better for the overwhelming mass majority of everybody. Much better than the 70's and better than today for that matter.

If you say so...


This is all that really matters. Being possitive is bad.

Jimmy Carter +7.00
Ronald Reagan -9.61
George H. W. Bush 0.23
Bill Clinton -3.27
George W. Bush -0.44
Barack Obama +4.70


Everything else is fodder.
 
2011-11-22 11:54:30 AM
Reagan was a farking disaster and any "conservative" that invokes his name, other than to decry his economic policies, is not a true conservative but a borrow and spend fraud. Bush I got it right: Voodoo Economics indeed.
 
2011-11-22 12:30:30 PM

pxsteel: keylock71: pxsteel: keylock71: Reagan was kind of an out of touch dick... But he looks like Will Rogers compared to the current crop of GOP assholes.

pxsteel: Life was pretty good in the 80's

Not for everyone, my friend... not by a long shot.

It was better for the overwhelming mass majority of everybody. Much better than the 70's and better than today for that matter.

If you say so...

This is all that really matters. Being possitive is bad.

Jimmy Carter +7.00
Ronald Reagan -9.61
George H. W. Bush 0.23
Bill Clinton -3.27
George W. Bush -0.44
Barack Obama +4.70


Everything else is fodder.


I wonder what the interval between policy changes and when their effects most felt are. 2-3 years? What's a reasonable number.

Also remember :
Carter - got elected just after a war
Obama - got elected with 2 wars running
Bush I - elected during the start of a tech boom, ran a short, successful war
Bush II - got elected with a surplus. started 2 wars
Clinton - got elected during a big increase of the tech boom and after a short, successful war
Reagan - the king of deficit spending
 
2011-11-22 12:35:30 PM

Also, the misery index tracks pretty well with the price of fuel.

Reagan also benefited from the Carter doctrine :


The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on January 23, 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region.

This from a President who wanted to push recycling, conservation and alternative energy but was a realist in regards to the fact that the US needs and runs on oil.
 
2011-11-22 02:16:32 PM
A Terrible Human: Why is Regan such a big deal with the GOP? I don't get the hero worship for Regan.

He is the manufactured right wing response to FDR. FDR came about his legacy fairly, Reagan's was manufactured, mostly after his administration and his death. He is that epic figurehead to follow and worship.
 
2011-11-23 02:23:34 AM
Romney's support hasn't declined subby. He's always in 2nd place. Maybe if he mentioned Reagan a few times he'd be in 1st place, but it hasn't hurt him so far.
 
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