Watch Peyton Manning return for that game and that game only.

GAT_00: They ought to move the Lions to Thursday, just because they have an honest shot to win on Thanksgiving for a change.

You shut your mouth!

I don't normally like those overseas games, but Saints-Lions should be held in the Roman Colosseum.

Texans/Falcons demand a recount

Good. Cuz if I wanted to watch someone kick a blind three legged puppy, I'd just do it myself. Colts suck. No one wants to witness their suckness.

GimpyNip: In other news Elway still butthurt Broncos are winning (new window)

It would be hilarious if the entire city of Denver turned on Elway

never happen. There really is a difference between Tebow fans and real Broncos fans. It's not hard to tell...

GimpyNip: In other news Elway still butthurt Broncos are winning (new window)

It would be hilarious if the entire city of Denver turned on Elway

He's right, though. Short-sighted organizations don't typically win NFL championships. There are always exceptions, of course.

Also in Week 13, Ravens-Browns moves to 4:05 p.m. EST

Rats, as a Browns season ticket holder, I absolutely hate 4:05 starts. It gives the drunken idiots 3 more hours to get even more drunkerer & idiotic.

Also, with the Browns, it's the football equivalent of delaying an exection by 3 hours. It's not going to change the result, it just adds to the misery.

WHAR GRAPH WHAR!!

cleveoh: Also in Week 13, Ravens-Browns moves to 4:05 p.m. EST

Rats, as a Browns season ticket holder, I absolutely hate 4:05 starts. It gives the drunken idiots 3 more hours to get even more drunkerer & idiotic.

Also, with the Browns, it's the football equivalent of delaying an exection by 3 hours. It's not going to change the result, it just adds to the misery.

Have faith Browns fan, the Ravens have consistently put up stinkers vs. the worst in the NFL this year.

Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched

One of two things will happen as a result of this Thursday's game: either Ndamukong Suh will have to be surgically removed from Aaron Rodgers' windpipe or Rodgers will impregnate a vast swatch of Detroit-area women after the game

zerkalo: Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched


"Cassel and the Chiefs, coming off a division-winning season, look to put a stop to the once-thought-to-be-floundering Patriots' winning ways."

/Oops, turns out a 4th-place divisional finish leads to easier games the next year, and vice-versa.
//No explanation for the Jags....

Gonna be a fun couple weeks for the Lions. They've quietly had as good a pass defense as anyone in the league this year (Opponent QB rating 69, 6 YPA, just 10 TDs against 15 INTs). Gonna get seriously put to the test over the next two...

degenerate-afro: cleveoh: Also in Week 13, Ravens-Browns moves to 4:05 p.m. EST

Rats, as a Browns season ticket holder, I absolutely hate 4:05 starts. It gives the drunken idiots 3 more hours to get even more drunkerer & idiotic.

Also, with the Browns, it's the football equivalent of delaying an exection by 3 hours. It's not going to change the result, it just adds to the misery.

Have faith Browns fan, the Ravens have consistently put up stinkers vs. the worst in the NFL this year.

This. As a Ravens fan, I suggest you put money on the Browns.

Whar Power Rankings? Whar??

GimpyNip: POW3R RANKING5 (new window)

only real WTF this week is the lions being ranked behind Matt Leinart's Texans (and arguably Kaleb's Bears)

Steelers above Ravens is a little WTFish. They've beaten em twice and own the division. Now let's be honest, it's the third game they'll play that worries me.

GimpyNip: only real WTF this week is the lions being ranked behind Matt Leinart's Texans (and arguably Kaleb's Bears)

And the Cowboys, who are 1 game behind the Lions, lost to them at home... but hey, they went 3-0 during the Special Olympics portion of their schedule...

As a long-suffering Lions fan, I just need to make sure this is real...

The Colts are being bumped for the Lions???

We're through the looking glass, people!

Loomy: zerkalo: Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched


"Cassel and the Chiefs, coming off a division-winning season, look to put a stop to the once-thought-to-be-floundering Patriots' winning ways."

/Oops, turns out a 4th-place divisional finish leads to easier games the next year, and vice-versa.
//No explanation for the Jags....

The Chiefs playing the Pats this year has nothing to do with where they finished last year. The AFC West and East play each other in full this year.

/The more you know

Treygreen13: rcantley: GimpyNip: only real WTF this week is the lions being ranked behind Matt Leinart's Texans (and arguably Kaleb's Bears)

And the Cowboys, who are 1 game behind the Lions, lost to them at home... but hey, they went 3-0 during the Special Olympics portion of their schedule...

You win the games on your schedule. The Rams, Seahawks, Bills and Redskins are arguably pretty bad teams but we could also ask the Saints, Giants, Ravens, Raiders and Patriots how on earth they managed to post an L against one of those bad teams.

Only in the last few weeks have the Bills looked ordinary. They started the season pretty damned strong.

homarjr: Loomy: zerkalo: Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched


"Cassel and the Chiefs, coming off a division-winning season, look to put a stop to the once-thought-to-be-floundering Patriots' winning ways."

/Oops, turns out a 4th-place divisional finish leads to easier games the next year, and vice-versa.
//No explanation for the Jags....

The Chiefs playing the Pats this year has nothing to do with where they finished last year. The AFC West and East play each other in full this year.

/The more you know


Don't be flashin' that shootin' star at me, mister!

What I meant in my slashie was that the Chiefs only finished 10-6 last year b/c they'd finished 4-12 the previous year, which gave them a bunch of in-conference games against other 4th-place finishers. This year, they got to play a bunch of division winners, which exposed them as a lesser division champ. Someone, somewhere could've seen that coming, and chosen a better MNF match-up, despite the perceived juiciness of the Cassel-Brady clash, which I don't think would've been all that great, even if he (and Charles) had been healthy.

Loomy: homarjr: Loomy: zerkalo: Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched


"Cassel and the Chiefs, coming off a division-winning season, look to put a stop to the once-thought-to-be-floundering Patriots' winning ways."

/Oops, turns out a 4th-place divisional finish leads to easier games the next year, and vice-versa.
//No explanation for the Jags....

The Chiefs playing the Pats this year has nothing to do with where they finished last year. The AFC West and East play each other in full this year.

/The more you know


Don't be flashin' that shootin' star at me, mister!

What I meant in my slashie was that the Chiefs only finished 10-6 last year b/c they'd finished 4-12 the previous year, which gave them a bunch of in-conference games against other 4th-place finishers. This year, they got to play a bunch of division winners, which exposed them as a lesser division champ. Someone, somewhere could've seen that coming, and chosen a better MNF match-up, despite the perceived juiciness of the Cassel-Brady clash, which I don't think would've been all that great, even if he (and Charles) had been healthy.

You're literally talking about two games.

A) 6 games in the division.
B) 4 games against a division in your own conference.
C) 4 games against a division in the other conference.
D) 2 games against the teams not in division B) but in the same conference, and that finished with the same seed in their division as you did the year prior.

Write that down.

homarjr: Loomy: homarjr: Loomy: zerkalo: Whoever in the league office that scheduled so many Jaguars and Chiefs games in primetime should be cock-punched


"Cassel and the Chiefs, coming off a division-winning season, look to put a stop to the once-thought-to-be-floundering Patriots' winning ways."

/Oops, turns out a 4th-place divisional finish leads to easier games the next year, and vice-versa.
//No explanation for the Jags....

The Chiefs playing the Pats this year has nothing to do with where they finished last year. The AFC West and East play each other in full this year.

/The more you know


Don't be flashin' that shootin' star at me, mister!

What I meant in my slashie was that the Chiefs only finished 10-6 last year b/c they'd finished 4-12 the previous year, which gave them a bunch of in-conference games against other 4th-place finishers. This year, they got to play a bunch of division winners, which exposed them as a lesser division champ. Someone, somewhere could've seen that coming, and chosen a better MNF match-up, despite the perceived juiciness of the Cassel-Brady clash, which I don't think would've been all that great, even if he (and Charles) had been healthy.

You're literally talking about two games.

A) 6 games in the division.
B) 4 games against a division in your own conference.
C) 4 games against a division in the other conference.
D) 2 games against the teams not in division B) but in the same conference, and that finished with the same seed in their division as you did the year prior.

Write that down.


Well, crap. I knew that, technically. I guess I was imagining more games changing due to positional finish, when in actuality, it's only 2 games. It's now on my palm, in sharpie.

Because I was curious:
2010, Chiefs played the AFC South (2-2), NFC West(4-0), Browns (W) and Bills (W/OT)
2011, Chiefs play(ed) the AFC East (0-3, Jets), NFC North (1-1, Bears, Packers), Colts (W) and Steelers (next).

So, the Chiefs winning last yearwas due to cupcakes (not that I'm the first to point this out), but their standing as a division isn't what sunk them this year (talk about a brutal schedule, save for the Colts gimme).

Thanks for pointing out my idiocy w/o actually calling me an idiot.

Look at it like this for a second...

Currently, quick and dirty before the early week of games....this is only a list of who has what record, not any kind of ratings within a group.

10 Wins
Green Bay

9 Wins
San Fran

8 Wins
None!

7 Wins
Detroit
Chicago
New Orleans
New England
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Houston

6 Wins
Cincinnati
Oakland
Dallas
New York Giants
Atlanta

5 Wins
New York Jets
Buffalo
Tennessee
Denver

4 Wins
Cleveland
San Diego
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Tampa Bay
Seattle

3 Wins
Arizona
Washington
Jacksonville
Miami

2 Wins
Minnesota
Carolina
St. Louis

1 Wins
None!

0 Wins
Indianapolis

I'm a bit surprised there's two groups with zero (1 win & 8 wins).

I'm also a bit surprised at the groupings, especially at 6 and 7. Going by record only is a different way of looking at it...I see some teams in each of these groups that I'd much rather face than other...

PlatinumDragon: As a long-suffering Lions satisfied Colts fan, I just need to make sure this is real...

The Colts are being bumped for the Lions???

We're through the looking glass, people!

FTFM

/Don't care about the perfect Miami season, but it would be nice to let the Lions record stand.
//But good for you Lions fans, you deserve it.

I was looking for a reason to go to the bar, awesome.

lets see... a night game, in NO, near the French quarter. What is gonna be the over/under on drunk and disorderlies at that game? (and how many of them have fark handles?)

nekom: dletter: Since about 6-7 years ago, I guess the whole NBC Sunday Night Football "Flex Scheduling" after about week 10-11 has totally passed you by.

I don't know how I missed that. I know they try to get the `good' games for SNF, MNF, etc. but I thought those were always determined prior to the start of the season. What about all those fridge magnets with schedules printed for the local team that people give out?

Apples01: WHAR GRAPH WHAR!!

Its in the other thread now

twotowner: lets see... a night game, in NO, near the French quarter. What is gonna be the over/under on drunk and disorderlies at that game? (and how many of them have fark handles?)

There are night games in New Orleans 3 out of the next 5 games

Giants week 12 Monday
Lions week 13 Sunday
Falcons week 16 Monday

Week 17 SNF game still has not been scheduled for any teams. But it wont be the Saints because the Saints play against Carolina.

Right now the most likely looking choices for week 17 SNF are Cin/Bal, Det/GB, TB/ATL, DAl/NYG, TEN/HOU, BuF/NE or SD/OAK.

nekom: Since when do they just move a football game because of ratings? Only time I ever remember them doing that was for natural disasters.

Really? They move 1-2 a year at least, always have if there are some teams that are fighting hard for a possible play-off spot.

so mikaloyd, basically you're saying mondays in december will be REALLY unproductive down in NO? :)

/i keed
//sounds like a great time to be a Saints fan

As a Lions fan, that is BOGUS. They get shafted because Curtis Painter sucks balls? LAME, Goodell, LAME.

/Patriots fan by birth and blood.
//Lions fan because I like underdogs.

FiendishFellow05: As a Lions fan, that is BOGUS. They get shafted because Curtis Painter sucks balls? LAME, Goodell, LAME.

/Patriots fan by birth and blood.
//Lions fan because I like underdogs.

Mods, if you could delete this, I was out of my head when I posted it, and it makes no sense. Many thanks.

homarjr: You're literally talking about two games.

A) 6 games in the division.
B) 4 games against a division in your own conference.
C) 4 games against a division in the other conference.
D) 2 games against the teams not in division B) but in the same conference, and that finished with the same seed in their division as you did the year prior.

Write that down.

I'll be honest, I just saved that on my computer. I honestly thought they just pulled the schedule outside of their division out of their ass...

mikaloyd: Right now the most likely looking choices for week 17 SNF are Cin/Bal, Det/GB, TB/ATL, DAl/NYG, TEN/HOU, BuF/NE or SD/OAK.

My most likely picks. If Detroit manages to beat Green Bay tomorrow, it'll definitely be the rematch. Actually, unless its a blowout tomorrow by GB, it'll probably be Det/GB.

CrazyWhiteBoy311: I'll be honest, I just saved that on my computer. I honestly thought they just pulled the schedule outside of their division out of their ass...

It's actually really well thought out, since you play an equal number of games against teams that finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th in their respective division the previous year. Plus, since the division you play rotate, every team plays every other team once every 4 years, minimum (3 years, minimum, in-conference). I'm not sure if they have a plan to make sure every team play AT every stadium every X years, though...