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Ed Finnerty

2011-11-21 07:38:00 PM

According to new polling data, the best way to be more informed than a Fox News viewer is to drink a glass of mercury every morning.

Mike_LowELL

2011-11-21 07:45:51 PM

HEY HERE'S AN IDEA FOR A MOVEMENT YOU STUPID LIBS HOW YOU OCCUPY A SHOWER STUPID GOD DAMN LIBS

Lionel Mandrake

2011-11-21 07:48:50 PM

NPR listeners are better informed than FOX viewers???/?

SHOCKING!

No wonder "conservatives" want to get rid of NPR; the bastards are reporting actual news!!

coco ebert

2011-11-21 08:06:52 PM

So osmosis is a better option than Fox News. Wow.

Then again, the article didn't mention anyone who consumed no news at all, just Fox News watchers as opposed to those who watch or listen to other news sources.

dahmers love zombie

2011-11-21 09:33:13 PM

Well, sure, all THAT stuff is true. But the pollster didn't bother asking the important questions. I can tell you even without spending the money on the "science" that Fox News viewers are FAR more likely to know that 0bama is a Muslim. They're also much more likely to be able to correctly tell you that the Democrats are all atheistic communists who want to ban Christmas trees and Sundays. And I'd bet that less than 5 percent of those people who "read" their news would have found out about the secret halal turkey menace. And probably none of the Jon Stewart crowd could come CLOSE to being able to explain how the government takes in more money when the job creators and corporations aren't taxed at all. Or could clearly explain why child labor laws and the minimum wage are unfair to children and poor people AND corporations.
And don't even get me started on the rank ignorance of the NPR crowd as to how a fertilized egg is exactly like a baby. Morons, the lot of 'em.

shanrick

2011-11-21 09:38:22 PM

dahmers love zombie:And don't even get me started on the rank ignorance of the NPR crowd as to how a fertilized egg is exactly like a baby. Morons, the lot of 'em.

How is babby formed?

DarwiOdrade

2011-11-21 10:31:45 PM

Gee, I thought the best way to be more informed than a Fox News viewer was to simply be conscious.

odinsposse

2011-11-21 10:32:49 PM

I've known for years that Fox News is essentially anti-knowledge.

FerneJohn

2011-11-21 10:33:27 PM

I get most of my news from NPR, followed by the Google News tab and Fark.

GodsTumor

2011-11-21 10:35:05 PM

You can be better informed by reading My Pet Goat.
At least you might learn a thing or two about goats?

stuhayes2010

2011-11-21 10:35:50 PM

I'd like to see a poll that includes Fark readers, I get 90% of my news here.

whidbey

2011-11-21 10:36:53 PM

Fox News=Millennial Yellow Journalism

coeyagi

2011-11-21 10:38:17 PM

According to new polling data, mixing paint chips with your morning Crispex will make you more informed than a Fox News viewer.

whatshisname

2011-11-21 10:38:49 PM

Do they actually report news? The only time I've turned it on it's people yelling at each other.

smitty04

2011-11-21 10:38:51 PM

All of these polls were conducted by ideologically liberal organizations out to prove that Fox News is biased and that conservatives are misinformed.

Satanic_Hamster

2011-11-21 10:40:43 PM

Lionel Mandrake: NPR listeners are better informed than FOX viewers???/?

SHOCKING!

No wonder "conservatives" want to get rid of NPR; the bastards are reporting actual news!!

I'm kinda surprised that NPR listeners scored that low, to be honest.

cc_rider

2011-11-21 10:41:04 PM

Thank you, Ric Romero for this new and shocking information!

/infromed

coeyagi

2011-11-21 10:41:11 PM

smitty04: All of these polls were conducted by ideologically liberal organizations out to prove that Fox News is biased and that conservatives are misinformed.

Phones have a liberal bias.

whidbey

2011-11-21 10:42:13 PM

whatshisname: Do they actually report news? The only time I've turned it on it's people yelling at each other.

Makes sense. That's what they want us to do.

Divide and conquer and all that...

whatshisname

2011-11-21 10:42:32 PM

coeyagi: smitty04: All of these polls were conducted by ideologically liberal organizations out to prove that Fox News is biased and that conservatives are misinformed.

Phones have a liberal bias.

Life has a liberal bias.

LordJiro

2011-11-21 10:42:43 PM

smitty04: All of these polls were conducted by ideologically liberal organizations out to prove that Fox News is biased and that conservatives are misinformed.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!1!1

GodsTumor

2011-11-21 10:44:52 PM

whatshisname: Do they actually report news? The only time I've turned it on it's people yelling at each other.

Those are high spirited patriots who love their country,

MFAWG

2011-11-21 10:47:48 PM

FerneJohn: I get most of my news from NPR, followed by the Google News tab and Fark.

I shiat you not, I've started reading the NY Times. Then FARK. Actually, FARK, THEN the NYT.

mainstreet62

2011-11-21 10:50:25 PM

Ed Finnerty: According to new polling data, the best way to be more informed than a Fox News viewer is to drink a glass of mercury every morning.

This thread should have been over after this post.

whidbey

2011-11-21 10:51:00 PM

Why is everybody so surprised they get their news from Fark?

Best.Aggregate.Evar.

maxheck

2011-11-21 10:57:42 PM

Applicable:

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"It ain't what he don't know that bothers me. It's what he knows for sure...that just ain't so."

zerkalo

2011-11-21 10:58:50 PM

The old house I am crashing in has lead pipes. I may be more informed than Fox Nation readers even after a few years here

SandmanEatsYourBrain

2011-11-21 11:06:18 PM

whidbey: Why is everybody so surprised they get their news from Fark?

Best.Aggregate.Evar.

It even includes all those wonderfully informative Fox News articles the mods seem to love so much. Irony!

whidbey

2011-11-21 11:08:18 PM

SandmanEatsYourBrain: whidbey: Why is everybody so surprised they get their news from Fark?

Best.Aggregate.Evar.

It even includes all those wonderfully informative Fox News articles the mods seem to love so much. Irony!

Well see those are just landmines. Every battlefield has them. You just have to learn how to use your knife to dig--

dr_blasto

2011-11-21 11:09:46 PM

People who get electro-shock therapy from an arc welder are more informed than Fox News viewers.

People who get most of their news from Fox News are way more infromed, however.

Pork Reins

2011-11-21 11:15:24 PM

Fox News viewers being the most uninformed in news is a symptom, not a cause.

ThisNameSux

2011-11-21 11:19:29 PM

I don't believe this study for a minute.

coeyagi

2011-11-21 11:22:48 PM

ThisNameSux: I don't believe this study for a minute.

I am sure your extra data point would have fixed things.

Gosling

2011-11-21 11:27:08 PM

Fark and Google News work for me, mostly. Google News is pretty much 'all the papers'; the real fun is in knowing how to make Google News bend to your will.

Something I love doing on my blog once every couple weeks is to take a big list of countries, territories, dependencies, etc., picking one of them by RNG, and then punching that place into Google News and seeing what comes up.

Try it yourself. Take, say, soccer's Elo Ratings. Don't need to know anything about soccer or even like soccer; you just need the part where countries get matched to numbers. RNG a number between 1-232. Take whatever country's next to the number you get. Punch that place into Google News and tell me what you see.

Enemabag Jones

2011-11-21 11:36:27 PM

The poll focused partly on popular uprisings in Egypt and Syria. Asked whether the people of Egypt successfully topped Hosni Mubarak's regime, 49 percent of Fox News viewers answered "yes" - the lowest on the scale - while 68 percent of NPR listeners answered in the affirmative, the highest on the scale.

Was Mubarak's regime removed? I don't know, it seems more like an essay question.

Satanic_Hamster,I'm kinda surprised that NPR listeners scored that low, to be honest.

Has the number of human interest stories increased in the last few years? They seem to have gone soft compared to Al Jazeera and the BBC.

oldebayer

2011-11-21 11:41:13 PM

GodsTumor: You can be better informed by reading My Pet Goat.
At least you might learn a thing or two about goats

Are there recipes? I've never seen or heard a recipe on Fox, but NPR has lots of them.

Mmmmm, curried goat.

MFAWG

2011-11-21 11:44:22 PM

whidbey: Why is everybody so surprised they get their news from Fark?

Best.Aggregate.Evar.

I'm almost 100 pct certain that one of Stephanie Millers Mooks is a Farker.

FerneJohn

2011-11-21 11:44:37 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Lionel Mandrake: NPR listeners are better informed than FOX viewers???/?

SHOCKING!

No wonder "conservatives" want to get rid of NPR; the bastards are reporting actual news!!

I'm kinda surprised that NPR listeners scored that low, to be honest.

Same. They offer the best and most wide-ranging reporting that I've seen or heard in a long time (excepting Weekend afternoons and evenings, which are mostly game, travel, and cooking shows).

FerneJohn

2011-11-21 11:46:29 PM

MFAWG: FerneJohn: I get most of my news from NPR, followed by the Google News tab and Fark.

I shiat you not, I've started reading the NY Times. Then FARK. Actually, FARK, THEN the NYT.

I used to read the NY Times online, but now I hardly think to do it. Fark has a wider variety of news, hard and otherwise. The only tradeoff is that you don't get trolls at the NY Times.

moralpanic

2011-11-21 11:51:26 PM

coco ebert: So osmosis is a better option than Fox News. Wow.

Then again, the article didn't mention anyone who consumed no news at all, just Fox News watchers as opposed to those who watch or listen to other news sources.

Well, Fox News viewer scored lower than 50%, or what random guessing would have produced. Which means that Fox News viewers are not only less informed, but misinformed.

KarmicDisaster

2011-11-21 11:52:01 PM

"The (poll's) results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don't watch any news at all"

Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe FOX just attracts dumb viewers. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it.

Don't Troll Me Bro!

2011-11-21 11:57:09 PM

According to ~~new polling data~~ every poll performed by a respectable polling agency for the past several years on this subject, the best way to be more informed than a Fox News viewer is to not read any news at all

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Magruda

2011-11-22 12:02:21 AM

Satanic_Hamster: I'm kinda surprised that NPR listeners scored that low, to be honest.

I'm not. NPR is the "professional" left. Their job is to help frame the debate the way you are suppsed to have it. Hence their lack a true dissident view point. If you control the framing of a debate you can manipulate it however you want.

Dwedit

2011-11-22 12:02:34 AM

/obligatory

abb3w

2011-11-22 12:05:18 AM

maxheck: Applicable:

I think Mark Twain said it earlier, but I'm too lazy at the moment to search Google Books.

Kome

2011-11-22 12:05:58 AM

KarmicDisaster: "The (poll's) results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don't watch any news at all"

Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe FOX just attracts dumb viewers. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it.

Correlation does imply causation when you have a reasonable justification for a link between the variables of interest. It doesn't necessarily support a casual link in a particular direction, but the implication is certainly present. As an alternative, let's combine both your view and the authors' interpretation - people predisposed to being stupid watch Fox News, and watching Fox News makes you more likely to be misinformed and the process acts like a recursive feedback loop.

Magruda

2011-11-22 12:09:34 AM

FerneJohn: They offer the best and most wide-ranging reporting that I've seen or heard in a long time

I'd be surprised if they spent more time on issues the MSM ignores then they do on promoting TV shows, movies, and books. They spent a full hour on Regis this sunday, just saying.

LazarusLong42

2011-11-22 12:12:26 AM

Pork Reins: Fox News viewers being the most uninformed in news is a symptom, not a cause.

I will partially agree with your statement, but it's reasonable to suggest it's a self-reinforcing cycle, i.e., uninformed idiots gravitate toward this source for news; said source provides them with misinformation that agrees with the uninformed idiot (because ratings are king); uninformed idiot continues being uninformed/misinformed.

Similarly, NPR listeners gravitate there because they want to be more informed, and therefore will become more informed via hearing actual news reporting. Daily Show viewers gravitate there because they're already interested in politics and, frankly, probably show up more informed to get a laugh.

LazarusLong42

2011-11-22 12:28:46 AM

Magruda: NPR is the "professional" left. Their job is to help frame the debate the way you are suppsed to have it. Hence their lack a true dissident view point. If you control the framing of a debate you can manipulate it however you want.

The news source that is considered objectively unbiased by people who study the media and politics using actual data... is the "professional left"? What planet are you from?

Don't try to cite me opinion articles about NPR's bias. Cite articles that use actual, hard data of some sort. The first three I found via Google all say the same thing: NPR has about as much bias as a blank sheet of paper.

The only reason people believe NPR has a liberal bias is because the Big Lie methodology works: the more you say it, the more people are willing to agree with it. Say "NPR has a liberal bias" enough times, and eventually people will take other people saying it as proof that it must be true.

HellRaisingHoosier

2011-11-22 12:34:20 AM

I'm a fan of FARK and the BBC.

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