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(The New York Times)   The annual presidential pardon of a single turkey is inflicting cruel and unusual punishment on the poor death row inmates   (opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 80
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2011-11-21 02:31:55 PM
Katolu: As soon as a turkey is found guilty of rape/sex/murder/death/rape I'll care about inmates.

Pretty tiresome argument, there. It's not about the criminals' actions - it's about ours. I'm pretty sure you can be pro-death penalty while still recognizing that it's a subject meriting solemnity as well sober introspection about what it means to be part of a society that implements it.

Your comment does nothing to highlight a reverence for justice or even retribution and it condemns the prisoners no more than they already have been but it does say a lot about the fitness of your own mind to engage in the debate about it.
 
2011-11-21 02:32:04 PM
here to help: America. Killing retards for liberty.

Not true, you are still alive.

/exception to the rule maybe?
 
2011-11-21 02:33:21 PM
Wish I had photoshop at work but here's some MS paint in action:

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I'm ashamed of the piss poor quality
 
2011-11-21 02:33:46 PM
Cybernetic: skullkrusher: Running Man could replace The Amazing Race

Damn. Missed a Running Man simulpost by 23 seconds.


WHO LOVES YOU AND WHO DO YOU LOVE?

SKULLKRUSHER!
 
2011-11-21 02:37:00 PM
Cybernetic: CornDog in 2012: Why can't we make inmates on death row fight for our entertainment? They're gonna die anyway so we might as well get some use out of them. Throw em in an arena and give them a mulititude of weapons, put it on pay per view and presto, it solves multiple problems at once. Put the events in the time slots where the NBA used to be

/DNRTA

YES!!!

[www.movievillains.com image 240x156]


/Golfclap
//Get out of my head!
 
2011-11-21 02:38:20 PM
Joe Blowme: here to help: America. Killing retards for liberty.

Not true, you are still alive.

/exception to the rule maybe?


Nope. I'm white.
 
2011-11-21 02:42:21 PM
here to help: America. Killing retards for liberty.

Now, now. Nowhere did it say the author of the article was put to death.
 
2011-11-21 02:47:53 PM
skinink: It could be worse, you could have a President that pardons one of you on Death Row, then proceed to give a rah-rah speech during the execution of the rest of you.

This screenshot says it all:

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2011-11-21 02:50:31 PM
Cat Food Sandwiches: FTFA: "In many countries, including Britain and France, the last vestiges of capital punishment survived for rare cases of treason alone"

Now there's something to strive for, being more like Britain and France.


Michigan has never executed anyone since becoming a state in 1837, banning it outright in 1847.

France was decapitating people as late as 1977.

Euros have a tendency to forget that American states have vastly different laws within the USA.
 
2011-11-21 02:52:15 PM
CornDog in 2012: Why can't we make inmates on death row fight for our entertainment? They're gonna die anyway so we might as well get some use out of them. Throw em in an arena and give them a mulititude of weapons, put it on pay per view and presto, it solves multiple problems at once. Put the events in the time slots where the NBA used to be

/DNRTA


We can call it the "Running Man" it could work!
 
2011-11-21 02:57:11 PM
Guess we have to do everything....

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GAT_00: Morton, I can't pardon a turkey. If you think I can pardon a turkey, then you have got to go back to your school and insist that you be better prepared to go out in the world.

You can't pardon a turkey?

No. I tell you what I can do. I'm drafting this turkey into military service.


This...
 
2011-11-21 02:59:29 PM
 
2011-11-21 03:01:30 PM
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Never Forget!

(wink)
 
2011-11-21 03:10:17 PM
Me? I'm going to personally bend my turkey over the table and stuff it my self! Wait...
 
2011-11-21 03:10:31 PM
Look, all I'm saying is, turkeys taste better than death-row inmates. Or so I've been told.

That should count for something, right?
 
2011-11-21 03:10:32 PM
FTA: To riff on Dostoyevsky's famous line about prisoners: you can tell what a nation is like by the way it treats its turkeys.

Nice try, but you're paraphrasing Gandhi, not Dostoyevsky.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"

-Mahatma Gandhi
 
2011-11-21 03:18:34 PM
offmymeds: FTA: To riff on Dostoyevsky's famous line about prisoners: you can tell what a nation is like by the way it treats its turkeys.

Nice try, but you're paraphrasing Gandhi, not Dostoyevsky.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"

-Mahatma Gandhi


One more thing. Dostoyevsky had this to say about prisons: "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
 
2011-11-21 03:23:33 PM
I'm sure inmates choke the chicken all the time
 
2011-11-21 03:24:50 PM
Racism through the years!

Blacks are more likely to be sentenced to death and less likely to be pardoned!

Here is the proof!



upload.wikimedia.org
White Turkey!

www.poppowwow.com
White Turkey!

blog.indecisionforever.com
White Turkey!

upload.wikimedia.org
White Turkey!

www.poppowwow.com
White Turkey!

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White Turkey!

www.swamppolitics.com
White Turkeys! Some much for hope and change!
 
2011-11-21 03:35:34 PM
I'll point out the obvious here: Unlike turkeys, death row inmates don't get pardons because of "luck," the pardoning power of the president and governor is there as a last ditch way to overturn an unjust, questionable, or otherwise judicially farked up death sentence. The author doesn't quite seem to get it
 
2011-11-21 03:40:58 PM
If I were president, that bird would be dinner.
 
2011-11-21 04:28:27 PM
Mouser: Look, all I'm saying is, turkeys taste better than death-row inmates. Or so I've been told.

That should count for something, right?


Deep frying prisoners would be fun to watch.
 
2011-11-21 04:29:54 PM
This comment from TFA was my favorite part:

Thanksgiving is like the Rapture for turkeys......some will go and some will be left behind.
 
2011-11-21 04:51:44 PM
Mouser: Look, all I'm saying is, turkeys taste better than death-row inmates. Or so I've been told.

That should count for something, right?


Give long pork a chance; traditions have to start somewhere.
 
2011-11-21 05:15:33 PM
The second two thirds of this article summed up my thoughts on the death penalty perfectly. The first third was retarded crap about Turkeys. Nobody gives a shiate about turkeys, come on.
 
2011-11-21 05:51:38 PM
ABQGOD: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Well seeing as how the turkeys never killed anyone, I'm having a hard time giving one flying fark what inmates on death row consider cruel and unusual.

This.

I also don't recall having the option to eat an inmate after his/her execution was carried out.


That's because they are fed to the rest of the death row inmates awaiting their turn.
 
2011-11-21 08:30:44 PM
Justin E. H. Smith teaches philosophy at Concordia University in Montreal

Despite all the wackjobs right here in the U.S., the NYT had to go to Canada to find someone to make an argument this inane.

/dey took our jerbs
 
2011-11-21 09:20:05 PM
Katolu: As soon as a turkey is found guilty of rape/sex/murder/death/rape I'll care about inmates.

...Do geese count?
 
2011-11-22 03:55:59 AM
JeffreyScott: Racism through the years!]
White Turkeys! Some much for hope and change!


Never mind that pretty much EVERY commercially raised-for-food turkey has white feathers... Outside heritage breeds, anyway, and they're called heritage because hardly anyone raises them these days.

/really hope my sarcasm meter is broken :)
 
2011-11-22 08:17:09 AM
JeffreyScott: Racism through the years!

Blacks are more likely to be sentenced to death and less likely to be pardoned!

Here is the proof!


[www.swamppolitics.com image 640x327]
White Turkeys! Some much for hope and change!


Well of course it was a white turkey. 'Cause if it where a fried chicken it would done be ate by now.
 
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